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September 2, 2008 2:38 am at 2:38 am #1236708dunnoMember
What exactly is a “harry”??
November 9, 2021 11:54 pm at 11:54 pm #2026572HaLeiViParticipantEver got your answer yet?
He’s Tom and Dick’s friend. The equivalent to חיליק וביליק.
November 10, 2021 7:27 am at 7:27 am #2026647November 10, 2021 9:31 am at 9:31 am #2026701HaLeiViParticipantOh. I see. I guess they didn’t keep “This Side Up” when they transferred the site.
November 10, 2021 10:26 am at 10:26 am #2026728HealthParticipantDonno -“What exactly is a “harry”??”
It’s the Litvish version of Tuna Bagel, which is Chaddish.
November 10, 2021 10:55 am at 10:55 am #2026767AviraDeArahParticipantHealth, that’s not accurate. A “tuna bagel” refers to one who grew up chasidish and has become westernized, save for his pronunciation which remains chasidish.
A “Harry” typically refers to a completely observant but Americanized Jewish person. He will dress in non- yeshivish clothes, and will be unaware of yeshivish customs and social norms. He is characterized by a specific way of talking, typically nasal and always with an “o” for a cholam instead of an “oi”.
November 10, 2021 10:55 am at 10:55 am #2026768ujmParticipantYou’re late to the Bar Mitzvah, Health.
November 10, 2021 10:55 am at 10:55 am #2026769midwesternerParticipantI would say it’s the opposite of a Teena Bagel. The Teena Bagel is one who has all the externalities of Chassidus but none of the pnimiyus. A Harry means someone lacking in the chitzoniyus.
November 10, 2021 11:27 am at 11:27 am #2026808HaLeiViParticipantMidwesterner, that’s a fantastic way to put it.
November 10, 2021 11:54 am at 11:54 am #2026816AviraDeArahParticipantI agree with Midwesterner too
November 10, 2021 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #2026836ujmParticipantA Harry is never Chasidish.
November 10, 2021 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #2026877ParticipantParticipant“and always with an “o” for a cholam instead of an “oi”.”
Which is the accurate pronunciation.November 10, 2021 6:38 pm at 6:38 pm #2026888HealthParticipantAvra, ujm, mw, -“Health, that’s not accurate, etc.”
Let me explain something – these names are Slang, not dictionary words.
So you are all correct, but so am I.So a “Harry” can be a Litvak – s/o OTD or just a Modern Guy.
A Tuna Bagel is a Chaddishe guy, which can be s/o OTD or just a ModerrNa.November 10, 2021 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #2026919Ober ChochomParticipantThe way I view it, a harry is the one who says ‘Yeshivish’ (without the I being pronounced as eee) not Yesheevish.
A harry is also someone who in their family’s culture, it’s normal for them to have the name Harry in the family.November 10, 2021 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm #2026955AviraDeArahParticipantParticipant; it probably is correct, but it doesn’t change the cultural association
Health; slang has use and is defined by its common usage. I’ve never heard Harry used to describe a litvak, OTD or MO person. I’ve only heard it used to describe people who are shomer torah umitzvos fully, but dress more American, don’t use yeshivish lingo, go by English names(that’s a given), and are otherwise removed culturally(but not religiously) from the Yeshiva world
November 10, 2021 11:11 pm at 11:11 pm #2026975HealthParticipantAvra – You missed my point.
Only Litvish are called Harrys.
Chaddisidim are called Tuna Bagels.Either one when called that name, can either be OTD or just Modern.
November 10, 2021 11:17 pm at 11:17 pm #2026986🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantHealth – sorry, you are totally off on this one.
November 11, 2021 11:40 am at 11:40 am #2027125HealthParticipantSyag -“Health – sorry, you are totally off on this one.”
You don’t have to agree with All my posts.
One thing for sure – Who ever created these names & those that use them – they are Rank outs.
It’s an Aveira, even if you think it’s Just Funny!November 27, 2021 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #2034772kevod kedushasParticipanti think the oilam is missing the boat – the term harry is just slang for someone who missed the boat when it comes to yeshievish hanhagos
November 27, 2021 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #2034802NoveltyParticipantujm, sorry but I have to disagree. I have a chasidishe relative who is a “Harry”… at least on his English birth certificate! 😉
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