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April 27, 2014 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #612647popa_bar_abbaParticipant
Sickening.
I saw this perfectly heimishe family, who usually keeps kosher, and today they are eating Dunkin Donuts like nobody’s business.
So I say, are those yoshon? And they say “it’s after pesach, we don’t worry about it again until sukkos.”
And I’m like–???????????????????????? ?????????????????
You only keep yoshon half the year?
Do you only keep cholov yisroel half the year also?
Do you also only not say lashon hara half the year?
Do you also only call YCT “apikorsim” half the year?
Do you also only not use the internet half the year?
Do you also only count sefirah half the year?
Do you also only not wear shaatnez half the year?
April 27, 2014 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #1012715Torah613TorahParticipantDid they say “Yes, the other half”?
April 27, 2014 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #1012716🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipantI actually only count sefira for less than half a year. I really have to work on that.
April 27, 2014 4:30 pm at 4:30 pm #1012717HaLeiViParticipantI wear half of Shatnez.
April 27, 2014 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #1012718writersoulParticipantI keep Shabbos less than 2% of the time…
April 27, 2014 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #1012719R.T.Participant??? ????? ???? ?? ?????
April 27, 2014 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #1012720☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantI only say mashiv haruach umorid hageshem for half the year.
April 27, 2014 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #1012721☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantWritersoul, that’s not good at all. (your math)
April 27, 2014 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1012722yeshivaguy45ParticipantPBA, if this isn’t a troll thread, (which apparently the other posters are taking it like that) yoshon doesn’t apply from after pesach until sukkos because the the issur of yoshon is only until the new crop is harvested which is sefiras haomer, which literally means the cutting of the omer (bundles of wheat). Once that happens, there’s no issur of omer. The family didn’t literally say we keep it half the year. They said we don’t worry about it
April 27, 2014 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #1012723🐵 ⌨ GamanitParticipantwritersoul- I think you meant 20%…
April 27, 2014 7:32 pm at 7:32 pm #1012724popa_bar_abbaParticipantyeshivaguy:
Thank you for taking the courtesy to explain.
But explain this, if you CAN: Just where in the Torah does it say you can eat chodosh before sukkos?
April 27, 2014 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #1012725☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe cutoff dates on certain products are actually before Succos.
But you wouldn’t expect halachic precision from someone who eats Dunkin’ Donuts anyhow.
April 27, 2014 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #1012726yeshivaguy45ParticipantI did research on this online just now to find out when chodosh starts. According to an article on the star-k website, the halachic problem is whatever is planted after the 4th day of pesach. That’s called the spring crop and it doesn’t hit the market until the end of the summer.
April 27, 2014 8:18 pm at 8:18 pm #1012727Geordie613ParticipantPBA, (even though I feel this is a wind-up, I’ll explain for people who may genuinely want to know)
What yeshivaguy means, is that it is no longer called chodosh after the first days of pesach.
Chodosh is from grain planted after pesach, and becomes yoshon at the next pesach. It does not hit the market until sukkos, hence there being no problem until then.
April 27, 2014 9:33 pm at 9:33 pm #1012728👑RebYidd23ParticipantAs if there’s a possibility that this is a serious thread.
April 27, 2014 9:48 pm at 9:48 pm #1012729mobicoParticipantIn the case that there is someone who truly wants to follow this up, the Sugyos are at the end of the first Perek of Kidushin.
April 27, 2014 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm #1012730popa_bar_abbaParticipantWhat yeshivaguy means, is that it is no longer called chodosh after the first days of pesach.
Depends what you mean by “it”. If you mean the wheat from 10 years ago, then yes, obviously it is no longer chodosh. But if you mean the wheat that is now being harvested and is chodosh, I’m having a hard time following.
April 28, 2014 12:12 am at 12:12 am #1012731☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIf you mean the wheat from 10 years ago, then yes, obviously it is no longer chodosh.
For at least nine years already. This past year’s grain just became muttar (e.g. Dunkin’ Donuts, although the pigs’ milk remains assur).
But if you mean the wheat that is now being harvested and is chodosh, I’m having a hard time following.
If it took root before the day of the hakravas haomer, it becomes muttar even if harvested later.
April 28, 2014 4:10 am at 4:10 am #1012732writersoulParticipantGamanit: You do not want to know how mortified I feel right now…
I’ll leave it at that :).
Thanks!
I think I’ll bow out.
If you say “pretty please” I can make like it never happened . . .
April 28, 2014 5:28 am at 5:28 am #1012733oyyoyyoyParticipantcmon. even I know popas joking. (right?)
April 28, 2014 11:35 am at 11:35 am #1012734mobicoParticipantI personally keep no more than half of Basar v’Chalav at any given time.
April 28, 2014 10:36 pm at 10:36 pm #1012735chassidishY.U.typeMemberhow bout those who wear half a head-covering
April 29, 2014 1:18 am at 1:18 am #1012736👑RebYidd23ParticipantI’m saying “pretty please”!
April 29, 2014 2:09 am at 2:09 am #1012737charliehallParticipantWhat yeshivaguy45 said. There is no way that a Dunkin Donuts could be serving chadash products this time of year. Besides, the Bach paskened that it is mutar all year and that is the ruling that the major American kashrut agencies follow. Popa, do some research before chastising others.
April 29, 2014 2:13 am at 2:13 am #1012738charliehallParticipant“pigs’ milk remains assur”
No pigs’ milk or pigs’ milk product is sold in any Dunkin Donuts in the United States.
April 29, 2014 2:43 am at 2:43 am #1012739☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantPopa, do some research before chastising others.
Charlie, he was kidding.
No pigs’ milk or pigs’ milk product is sold in any Dunkin Donuts in the United States.
That’s what they claim.
(I was also kidding about that part).
April 29, 2014 2:50 am at 2:50 am #1012740To be or not to beMemberHalf posts are also…
April 30, 2014 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #1012741YW Moderator-42ModeratorChasidesheYUtype, how about those who wear half a double-head-covering? 🙂
Popa, how much of Hallel did you say today?
April 30, 2014 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm #1012742zahavasdadParticipantSome of the Dunkin Donuts have Hechshers, Av en J and Ave M do and I think there is one on Coney Island Ave that does too
April 30, 2014 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #1012743147ParticipantI have heard of 1/2 Yom Tov:-i.e. Observing 1&1/2 days YomTov when in Israel, which is as old as antiquity, but 1/2 Shabbos is an entirely new one to me.
Maybe the person is off the East coast of Australia on a ship on Friday nite, and on Saturday morning jumps onto Australia land, so is left with 1/2 of shabbos.
Short of this, I cannot for my life figure out what 1/2 Shabbos implies?
April 30, 2014 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #1012744zahavasdadParticipant147
Half-Shabbos refers to a practice especially among teens who text on shabbos R”L and claim they are observing “Half-Shabbos”
April 30, 2014 9:23 pm at 9:23 pm #1012745👑RebYidd23ParticipantIt means not all the way. But I admit to keeping Shabbos only once a week.
May 1, 2014 12:26 am at 12:26 am #1012746popa_bar_abbaParticipantShort of this, I cannot for my life figure out what 1/2 Shabbos implies?
It refers to people who do zachor but not shamor, or the opposite. Like eating milchigs on shabbos.
May 1, 2014 1:23 am at 1:23 am #1012747147ParticipantThere is absolutely no prohibition to consume Dairy food on Shabbos.
Most Shabbosses I drink dairy ice coffee before attending services in the morning, and eat cheese cake @morning Kiddush time, and consuming Dairy, certainly leaves one in the category of fully Shomer Shabbos, and not 1/2.
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