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February 21, 2011 5:07 am at 5:07 am #595191OfcourseMember
Name things that a girl does or says on a date that makes you lose interest.
I know appearance is of pretty major importance, so leave that out.
February 21, 2011 5:30 am at 5:30 am #743571canineMemberIf her skirt goes above her knees, its over.
February 21, 2011 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #743572OfcourseMemberNot too many guys commenting.
Is it that:
1- there are many more girls in Shidduchim in the CR than guys, or
2- the guys are less opinionated or fussy (I doubt that)
3- is there nothing that makes them lose interest other than looks?
February 21, 2011 1:33 pm at 1:33 pm #743573guy-ochoMemberif she burps.
February 21, 2011 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #743574TumsMemberGuys have humility and are judicious in their public commentary. Hence the lack of public discussion of intensely private thoughts.
February 21, 2011 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm #743575shuliParticipanti think its mostly looks…
February 21, 2011 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #743577truth be toldMemberFebruary 21, 2011 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #743578always hereParticipantI would think being catty or speaking loshon hora. in general, giving off a negative vibe.
for ex.- on a date: commenting about other people, negatively or excessively, -or- speaking negatively about a certain group of people (type of Jew) or Rabbi.
also– coming off too high maintenance, or perhaps, not caring enough about how they’re put together.
JMO.
February 21, 2011 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #743579ZeesKiteParticipantBefore this thread too becomes another girl/boy – man/woman issue, let me offer one thought.
HaShem in his great wisdom created BOTH versions of humanity. Each one with its own characteristics to succeed in productive life. We NEED both models – just the way they are. A man with masculine attributes, and a woman with feminine ones. No need to mix and match. Certainly no need to bicker and bash. To denigrate one variant over the other shows lack of appreciation of the Ribono Shel Olam. As if something ?? ????? is lacking in His creation.
Just another of my two pennies.
February 21, 2011 2:57 pm at 2:57 pm #743580truth be toldMemberZeesKite: An the point is..
February 21, 2011 2:58 pm at 2:58 pm #743581well meaning busy bodyMemberThis happened to me 40+ years ago.
It was a first Beshow (sit in) and the first thing the young lady asked me was
“Do you intend to have a say in the way your wife dresses?’
When I said yes she stood up.
Can you imagine the looks on our parents’ faces whe we came in to the room after 2 minutes?
February 21, 2011 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #743582morah reynaMemberDoesn’t it depend on who you are and what you are looking for?!
February 21, 2011 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #743583☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantHaShem in his great wisdom created BOTH versions of humanity. Each one with its own characteristics to succeed in productive life. We NEED both models – just the way they are. A man with masculine attributes, and a woman with feminine ones. No need to mix and match. Certainly no need to bicker and bash. To denigrate one variant over the other shows lack of appreciation of the Ribono Shel Olam. As if something ?? ????? is lacking in His creation.
If she’s too preachy (just kidding) 🙂
February 21, 2011 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #743584OfcourseMemberZeesKite, To denigrate one variant over the other shows lack of appreciation of the Ribono Shel Olam.
Nice thought! I dont think anyone here bashed anyone, they’re merely stating what makes them, specifically, lose interest in a dating partner. In effect, any single who rejects, isnt saying the person they’re rejecting is a bad person, they just dont meet their needs or idea of what their life partner should be like.
The reason for this post is the fact that I get asked by people what might be going wrong on their dates, thinking they’re unaware of something they’re doing wrong…. By getting some answers here, I might get some clarity on that. Very much l’Toeles.
February 21, 2011 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #743585popa_bar_abbaParticipantNot too many guys commenting.
Guys are more judicious. We don’t make big decisions based on one thing.
February 21, 2011 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm #743586OfcourseMemberpba Guys are more judicious. We don’t make big decisions based on one thing.
Fine, what are the multiple things?
February 21, 2011 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #743587mewhoParticipantif she doesnt talk!
February 21, 2011 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #743588ZeesKiteParticipantDaas Yochid:
In the relatively early hours of the day, brain is still somewhat coupled to body. No assurances for later outbursts. (I did write the ‘just my 2 cents’ disclaimer, didn’t I?)
Ofcourse:
I’m not referring to anything particular written in this thread. I indicated – before it comes to … These issues usually lead to these discussions.
February 21, 2011 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #743589popa_bar_abbaParticipantThat is not the question of this thread. The question of this thread asks for lists of things which make guys say no.
Most guys don’t have such a list.
If you want to know what balance of things guys look for, there have been multiple threads about that.
February 21, 2011 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #743590OfcourseMemberpba, Most guys don’t have such a list.
Im not sure about that! For sure they havent written one, but with so many single guys out there 27 and beyond, who have dated and rejected many of the 100+ girls they dated (even if they rejected about half, it would be about 50 girls), there have to be some common factors among those rejected, other than looks.
February 21, 2011 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #743591popa_bar_abbaParticipantFirstly, the girls end it far more than 50% of the time.
But more important, there are common factors in why a guy might stop dating someone, but nothing which can be reduced to checklists.
February 21, 2011 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #743592OfcourseMemberpba Firstly, the girls end it far more than 50% of the time.
Hey, Im armed with facts! I’m middle aged, B”H, and lately have 100 couples dating a year, min. How many do you?
February 21, 2011 9:32 pm at 9:32 pm #743593popa_bar_abbaParticipantSo forget my firstly; I have no numbers.
But, I have heard that girls are more likely to be chronic “dumpers”.
February 21, 2011 9:50 pm at 9:50 pm #743594☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantNo assurances for later outbursts. (I did write the ‘just my 2 cents’ disclaimer, didn’t I?)
I did write the “just kidding” disclaimer, didn’t I?
February 21, 2011 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #743595ItsJustMyOpinionMember“Firstly, the girls end it far more than 50% of the time”
If you’re right than that may be part of the problem.
Ofcourse,
I don’t think it’s mostly the looks. I dated many very pretty girls but I said no, mostly because they were dull, quiet, preachy, fake frum (one said to me “yasherkoach”).
February 21, 2011 10:01 pm at 10:01 pm #743596☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant(one said to me “yasherkoach”).
What’s wrong, she should have said “yasherkoiach”?
February 21, 2011 10:15 pm at 10:15 pm #743597WolfishMusingsParticipantThings that if a girl said (if I were still single, of course) that would make me lose interest…
“I’m sorry I had to postpone our date from yesterday. It’s just that yesterday Jupiter was in ascension and my psychic told me that it was bad luck to go out on a date then. But we’re good now until next Thursday when Saturn goes into conjunction with Mercury.”
“Would you like to see my collection of potato chips that look like Ernest Borgnine?”
“Well, I have two sisters, both younger, and a brother who is older than I am. Oh, and then there’s the horrible mutant who lives up in our attic. I’m not sure how he’s related, but I know that I dread it when it’s my turn to take the rotting fish heads he eats for lunch up to his room. But now that we’re together, you’ll take my turn for me, won’t you?”
“Well, my favorite mollusk is the octopus, although I suppose the nautilus is quite good too.”
“Have you ever had the rush that comes from playing a game of ‘chicken’ with a cop car?”
“Some people get turned off when I tell them that Daddy’s a mortician, but he’s really not that bad. It’s a job that has to be done just like any other? It’s certainly not that much worse than being a plumber or a sewer worker, right? And, on the plus side, in what other job could a man bring home eyeballs for his kids to play with?”
“Want to go cow tipping?”
“You’re so much nicer than the last guy I dated. All he did was complain when I spit into his drink.”
“As a rule, I don’t go in cars on dates… too much chance for yichud and all that. However, I have a rickshaw here that you can use to pull me around town.”
The Wolf
February 21, 2011 10:34 pm at 10:34 pm #743598ItsJustMyOpinionMemberIt actually was “yasherkoiach”…after a game of scrabble.
Sorry, girls speaking yeshivish is in a totally different league. Like my friend who told me a girl asked him on a date, “so, do you shtelzuch on the rishoinim?”
February 21, 2011 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #743599oomisParticipantIn either boy or girl, I would think someone who is rude to the wait staff at a restaurant, someone who bad-mouths someone, or talks negatively about their former dates.
February 22, 2011 12:36 am at 12:36 am #743600cshapiroMemberyeah talking about former dates, sucha turnoff….
February 22, 2011 1:37 am at 1:37 am #743601hashkafa on straightMember1) sometimes the girl may ask questions that a guy may not understand.
2)a big deal breaker is when the girl doesn’t know what she wants (life, hashkafa, etc)
February 22, 2011 5:47 am at 5:47 am #743602☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantIt actually was “yasherkoiach”…after a game of scrabble.
Sorry, girls speaking yeshivish is in a totally different league. Like my friend who told me a girl asked him on a date, “so, do you shtelzuch on the rishoinim?”
Why is that “fake frum”?
“As a rule, I don’t go in cars on dates… too much chance for yichud and all that. However, I have a rickshaw here that you can use to pull me around town.”
Now that would be “fake frum”!
February 22, 2011 1:14 pm at 1:14 pm #743603shuliParticipantlol to the wolf!:)
February 22, 2011 1:40 pm at 1:40 pm #743604real-briskerMemberDY – I don’t think the poster meant fake frum like taking upon ones self unheard of chumras. Rather what the poster probaly meant was, that the girl probaly doesn’t know what shtelzuch means, nor does she know the difference between a rishon and a achron. So to ask such a question when she probaly doesn’t know what shes talking about, rather just asking to make herself soun *FRUM* is called FAKE!
February 22, 2011 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #743605OfcourseMemberWM, “Would you like to see my collection of potato chips that look like Ernest Borgnine?”
How about- “Would you like to see my Trust Fund documents that I take everywhere I go, in a velvet pouch, together with my silver spoon”?
Would that make most guys lose interest?
February 22, 2011 3:13 pm at 3:13 pm #743606WolfishMusingsParticipantnor does she know the difference between a rishon and a achron
Why shouldn’t she know what the difference between a Rishon and an Acharon is? It’s not exactly a great pilpul to say that people who lived before X are in Group A and people who live after X are in Group B.
The Wolf
February 22, 2011 3:35 pm at 3:35 pm #743607ItsJustMyOpinionMemberThank you real-brisker, well said.
Just be yourself. For example, if you start talking about art when you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about, that’s being fake cultured.
February 22, 2011 4:54 pm at 4:54 pm #743608real-briskerMemberWolf – You are right that, that is one of the differences between a rishon and achron, and that girls might know, because they learn *historiya*. But what I was reffering to was, that they dont know the mailah of a rishon over a achron, they don’t know that you are midayek in what the ritvah or rashbas words, and you are not midayek in how some hintege achron worded his sefer.
February 22, 2011 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #743609real-briskerMemberIJMO – No problem!
February 22, 2011 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm #743610MDGParticipantOne of my biggest turn offs – Bad table manners
February 22, 2011 10:29 pm at 10:29 pm #743611☕ DaasYochid ☕Participantrb,
IJMO’s original post (which is the one I commented on) referred only to “yasherko(i)ach” as “fake frum”. “Fake frum” in my book, is, as you said, unnecessary chumras, especially at the expense of others. I would call a girl who asks, “so, do you shtelzuch on the rishoinim?” “fake yeshivish”. “Yasherko(i)ach, or “shkoiach” has become pretty accepted by some (although I still find it a bit amusing coming from a female). I wouldn’t hold “shkoiach” against her.
February 22, 2011 10:30 pm at 10:30 pm #743612☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantOne of my biggest turn offs – Bad table manners
Then you should work on it 🙂
February 22, 2011 10:53 pm at 10:53 pm #743613real-briskerMemberDY – The point is the same
February 22, 2011 11:07 pm at 11:07 pm #743614☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantTrue, but fake frum is worse.
February 23, 2011 12:24 am at 12:24 am #743615real-briskerMemberDY – You bet!
February 23, 2011 1:48 am at 1:48 am #743616metrodriverMemberReal Brisker (In response to Wolf.); I happen to know a Rebbitzen who worked in a famous Seforim Store in Boro Park, who could rattle off the names of all Rishonim and Achronim in the proper order of their appearance. She actually did have serious discussions with Kollel Yungeleit about the availability of all Seforim. She would never say –for example– that the Chazon Ish was an uncle of the Baal Shem Tov. Or that Reb Chaim Kaniyevsky was related to the Avnei Nezer.
February 23, 2011 4:35 am at 4:35 am #743617real-briskerMembermetro – Yes but she wont be able to tell you what is written in them!
February 24, 2011 1:17 am at 1:17 am #743619metrodriverMemberreal-brisker; “Noch Dus Oych”! What else do you want?! I’m not so sure about that. But, then again, she would be a Rosh Yeshiva, not a salesperson in a store. One thing is certain. I don’t envy her prospective Son-in-Law who would present himself as a Yeshivishe guy who wasn’t really. His bluff wouldn’t last more than Thirty Seconds.
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