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December 2, 2010 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #593303cleverjewishpunMember
Any guitar or bass players in the coffee room?
would love to talk gear and see if any similar tastes exist
I have a OLP Musicman Bass (OLP is the officially licensed Ernie Ball knock off line) an SX Jazz bass (with a Leo Quan bridge added) An Epiphone acoustic electric for when I’m by myself and want to do some song writting. And much to my neighboors chagrin, I have a Kustom 200DE Amplifier through a Gallien Kruger 4X10 Cabinet. My pedal board consists of a Planet Waves pedal tuner, MXR M-80 Distortion/DI Box (for when I play live) and my Channukah present to myself A Line 6 G50 Digital wireless system
December 2, 2010 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #771036BEST IMAParticipantUh I have a beautiful guitar its a blond wood color works with either an amplifier or without one. Uh it comes in a stunning case. It cost me a major fortune because the guy in sam ash saw i had no idea what i was doing and took me for a ride. And as you can see i dont know the first thing about guitars but i really want to learn how to play. Do you know anyone in brooklyn who gives lessons?
December 2, 2010 8:55 pm at 8:55 pm #771037cleverjewishpunMember@BEST IMA, I live outside the confines of the tri-state area so I dont know of anyone who gives guitar lessons in Brooklyn.
What I can tell you is that to get you started there are some great books for beginers by Hal Leonard.
The other thing I can tell you is, whatever you put into playing and practicing, is what you get out of it. You cant expect to get good overnight and it takes work.
I wish you much luck as it is a great creative outlet to have.
Please let me know if you have any other questions
December 2, 2010 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #771039BEST IMAParticipantcleverjewishpun thanx so much for your advice. I got a very good dvd that helped alot but id really love to take lessons. I used to play when i was i high school but its been a looooong time since then. Im going to look around and see if i can find someone. Thanx
December 8, 2010 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm #771040cleverjewishpunMember@BEST IMA, did you find someone?
December 10, 2010 9:22 am at 9:22 am #771042May 25, 2011 5:07 am at 5:07 am #771044MiddlePathParticipantCleverjewishpun, you have some really wonderful gear! The Music Man bass has such a great sound, perhaps only outdone by a Rickenbacker.
I have an Ibanez RG electric, Yamaha acoustic, and a nylon-stringed classical guitar that I’m not sure of the brand. I use a Vox Valvetronix amp with built-in effects(No need for pedals).
I also play the drums, and I have an entry-level acoustic set which I recently converted to a 9 piece electronic kit using an Alesis module.
I would love to have the Petrucci Music Man electric guitar..But it’s quite expensive. Also love the Synyster Gates Schecter.
May 25, 2011 2:20 pm at 2:20 pm #771045apushatayidParticipantLook up a place “music delite” on foster ave in brooklyn.
Also, try musika.com
Its an interesting concept and we found someone to give lessons to one of our children at a time and place that is most convenient for us.
May 25, 2011 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm #771046cleverjewishpunMemberI actually use my SX basses (i’ve added a SX Precision Bass to my collection since my original post) more when I play live.
I’m interested in selling off my Kustom amp head in favor of an Ampeg SVT model as the tone you get from that is unreal!
Ibanez makes some great guitars and they are finally starting to get their due. My favorite is the Artcore models as I’ve always wanted to play a semi hollow body but the RG is used by one of my favorite musicians of all time. Is your Yamaha an acoustic electric?
Is the Vox Valvetronix a solid state or a tube amplifier? and no matter what any press release or guitar center employee tells you, there is never a substitute for individual pedals for effects. You should look into getting a chorus, delay, and an Ibanez Tubescreamer for overdrive!
Right now I dont think my neighboors would appreciate me trying my hands at drums but thats awesome that you have an electronic kit as it’s great for practicing but there is also no substitute for acoustic drums in a live setting!
I used to have an epiphone sg with some great modifications to it but i sold it 🙁 Scheter makes some great guitars and the Synyster Gates model is a good choice vis a vi looks and tone but its really only appropriate for the harder edged stuff as you would look kind of ridiculous playing certain styles of music on it.
If you ever do play in a live setting, a wireless unit is worth it’s weight in gold.
May 25, 2011 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #771047MiddlePathParticipantI’m guessing the guitarist with the Ibanez RG that you enjoy is Steve Vai..Am I right? Because I love his guitar as well (The monkey handle is so cool). My Yamaha is a regular acoustic, but I have a clip-on pickup for it when I use it to record.
My Vox amp is a solid state, but it has a setting which makes it sound “tube-like”, although, it doesn’t come close to an actual tube amp. I agree, having pedals give more versatility and greater sound options, but I rarely play live, so for recording purposes, I’m okay without pedals.
About the Synyster Gates Schecter, I totally understand that playing anything other than hard rock/ metal will look ridiculous, but since I rarely play live, I’d be fine with it! (Also, because I mostly play his sort of genre anyway.)
May 25, 2011 5:14 pm at 5:14 pm #771048cleverjewishpunMember@Middle Path,
actually Dextar Holland uses RG’s mostly. Personally all of the great “lead players” kind of bore me. Music is more about the song as a whole rather than one guy taking a 3 minute solo with sweeping arpeggios.
Its sad you dont get to play live ever, if I couldnt play live I dont think I would even play anymore. The cool thing about the Synyster model is that if he were on tour and broke his, he could walk into any guitar center and pick one up off the wall and its the exact same specifications. On a lot of different signature models its just the same paint job but none of the same electronics. I have a lot of respect for companies like that.
and if you would only use pedals live, then kal v’chomer you would use them on a recording which needs to sound perfect rather than be at the mercy of some factory preset effects!
May 25, 2011 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #771049MiddlePathParticipantCleverjewishpun, I hear what you are saying about the pedals, it’s just that I seem to be able to get all of the sounds I want for recording from my amp and software. Pedals, for me, would mostly just be for ease-of-use. Of course, some sounds can’t really be reproduced by an amp or software.
I understand how solo guitarists’ albums may be “boring”, but I still enjoy a good solo album. Some are better than others. Some have more “complete” songs and some are just a random collection of riffs and solos. But I like both.
I have played live a few times, and there is nothing like it, but I also enjoy just sitting back and jamming myself. Since I play the drums also, I can pretty much compose and record a complete song myself (with an effect for a bass guitar sound).
May 25, 2011 6:06 pm at 6:06 pm #7710501dayatatimeParticipantAny Drummers here?
May 25, 2011 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #771051cleverjewishpunMemberThats pretty cool that you can just record a whole song by yourself
It’s also a lot of fun to do so in a proper recording studio, I got to do that a few years ago and even when I wasnt laying down my parts, I stayed in the control room watching how everything was done!
What does the music you record sound like?
May 25, 2011 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #771052MiddlePathParticipant1Day, I would consider myself a drummer, although I’ve only been playing them for about 2-3 years. Have any questions?
Cleverjewishpun, yes, recording in a proper studio is an awesome experience! Right now though, I use a multitrack recorder and Cakewalk. The music I record encompasses a wide range of genres. It’s mostly instrumental, very progressive sounding, and all original compositions. I guess if I were to put it under a specific genre, it would be “Progressive Instrumental Jazz-Metal”. (I just made that name up.)
May 25, 2011 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #771053cleverjewishpunMemberprogress instrumental jazz metal sounds frightening and excellent all at the same time!
I play in a 90’s cover band so we dont spend alot of time in the studio but instead it’s all about the live performance.
May 25, 2011 10:18 pm at 10:18 pm #7710541dayatatimeParticipantMiddle, no just stam to shmooze, as drumming is my passion
Been playing for about 12 years
May 25, 2011 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm #771055MiddlePathParticipant1Day, that’s great! What gear do you use? Also, I recently converted my acoustic kit to an electronic kit and I use it to record with. However, I have noticed there is an annoying buzzing sound coming from the drum module. I can’t seem to fix it. Any ideas?
Cleverjewishpun, what sort of bands do you cover? Personally, I never really got into 90’s stuff. I’m all 70’s and 80’s.
May 26, 2011 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #771056cleverjewishpunMemberofficially anything from the 90’s is fair game. But unofficially we stick to the big radio hits from the grunge era and the one hit wonders that still get played. It’s a niche market and thats why we do well.
May 26, 2011 4:02 pm at 4:02 pm #771057MiddlePathParticipantCleverjewishpun, I hear that. Do you feel though that grunge is easier to play than other types of rock/jazz? I’m only asking because the few grunge bands I am familiar with (Nirvana, Alice in Chains, and few others) seem to have a very basic chord progression in every one of their songs. Seems to me kind of repetitive..But obviously, there is a market for that. That’s partly why I like pre-“modern” music. There just seems to be more versatility and complexity in the older stuff. That’s not to say there is nothing in the 90’s like that, because there are. But not as many.
What do you think?
Also, I’m looking for a soft-shell acoustic case for 50-100 dollars. what would you recommend?
May 26, 2011 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #771058cleverjewishpunMemberIts funny you name Alice In Chains as an example of basic chord progressions as I’m trying to tackle one of their songs and having a very tough time because the bass line is all over the place.
The grunge movement was born out of the “hair metal” and “stadium rock” music the players grew up on so the focus wasnt on complexity, it was more about the emotion behind it. That being said Soundgarden and Pearl Jam are two bands from the “Grunge Era” that had some pretty intricate songs. And Soundgarden did it all with one guitar player!
Nirvana was basically at their core a punk band that wrote some very very catchy songs with an amazing producer behind the board. I dont think they ever intended to get as huge as they did.
Regarding a softshell case, if your going to spend that much money on a case, I would just go with a hardshell at that point. A middle of the road hardshell case will do better than an expensive soft shell.
I just got the new musicians friend catalogue and am currently waiting to see how many shows we have booked coming up to decide if I want to pull the trigger on a new amplifier
May 26, 2011 5:09 pm at 5:09 pm #771059MiddlePathParticipantYeah, I guess Alice in chains isn’t such a great example of “simple” progressions. I was referring more to punk than grunge. But I see what you are saying about them focusing more on emotion than technical prowess. Which would be understandable for me why I am not so into that, since I never really play live, so emotion is quite a non-factor for me. I therefore focus more on technique, and the 70’s and 80’s in particular are a goldmine for wonderful musical technique. (Rush, Sabbath, King Crimson,..)
About the case, I particularly want a softshell because I need something I can fold up and put into a small space. I have a hardshell and it’s not so practical for me right now.
Good luck on deciding about a new amp!
May 26, 2011 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #771060123bubbyParticipantguitars????? yaa!!! I live guitars!!! I play classic guitar for years!!! its really hard work !!! but once u know tha song its relaxing!!
May 26, 2011 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #7710611dayatatimeParticipantMiddle
Yamaha Maple Custom-Pearl Snare-Paiste signature 14″ Hi-hats, 17″ fast crash- 22′ ride-zildjian 14″ crash
Not very familiar with the electronic drums
Clever
Not very into Grunge, i do like Jeremy by PJ though
May 26, 2011 8:02 pm at 8:02 pm #771062MiddlePathParticipant1day, you have a nice kit! Too bad your’e unfamiliar with electronic kits, though..I do have a question that you can help me with: I recently started using a double-bass pedal, and, obviously, it took a while to get used to it. Now, I’m okay with it, but when play a double bass beat, I have my heels off the ground and use my entire legs to press down. This ends up tiring me out pretty quickly. I know that the proper method is to keep the heels down and only use the ankles to move your feet, but I have a hard time staying in rhythm that way. Any suggestions that would help?
May 26, 2011 10:22 pm at 10:22 pm #7710631dayatatimeParticipantMiddle
Ahh the great drumming debate: Heel up or Heel down?
Drummers will tell you, that, there is no right way, whatever youre more comfortable with
Truth is, that, when playing double pedal you’re probably better off playing heel up, because like that you’ll have more power and more kick (boom) however, it does take time learning how to use the heel up method properly. Usually when starting out, using heel up, drummers will lift their whole foot tiring them out quickly, but, what i learned after time with the help of a drummer friend, is to put just the front bottom part of you’re foot into it, and slide it up the pedal from bottom to top as you kick. (not sure if im being clear)basically your heel should be about 2 inches off the ground, front part of foot on pedal and make it as if you would be sliding your foot up the pedal, without acctually doing so, you end up using your shin that way
You can check out Scott Travis, drummer for judas priest, he’s an amazing double bass player, to see what i mean
May 26, 2011 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm #7710641dayatatimeParticipantWhat company pedal?
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