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I was walking on the street in boro park at the time when public school lets out. I saw a bunch of young kids (I mean really young not older that 10-11-12) holding a bunch of sefarim in their hands ( I dont know where they got it from!!) and this kid kept on throwing a sefer on passing peoples heads. I was totally outraged and told a girl that I can call the cops on her. She gave me a reply not to be written. I was mad and was going to call shomrim and then realized that I dont have the number on me,anyways can shomrim do anything about this other that to take away the sefarim ? I ended up walking down a different block totally upset with the incident. Now I wonder, If such a thing happens again what am I supposed to do?? We are in galus after all so to make a whole hoolahoo is maybe not called for, but on the other hand how can I watch sefarim being thrown like that!! What do you think??
you could call shomrim if they were throwing history books out the window at people…
Bombmaniac is right. They shouldn’t be throwing anything out of the window at pple! You could have gone into the school and spoken to the school guard and reported it. You might not have known, but at the entrance of any PS, there is a guard having pple sign in if they are there to see someone. You are right to be upset about the seforim, but they could have really hurt someone by throwing any object out of the window at pple’s heads. Of course, hindsight is 20/20.
bombmaniac and NY mom,
where in working’s post does it say anything about a window??
Call the cops! Somebody could get hurt, what are you waiting for? Also, this is racial harrassment. Let the juvenile police people do their job. I hate kids like this who absorb all the antisemitism from their parents.
also, take a picture with your cell phone of them doing this. they may stop, and if they don’t you will have proof.
Wow I am very hesitant to go here but –
how do you know that this very inappropriate action was being done by public school kids?
Can we just put the labels away?
I know many many public school kids whose middos are far superior than many of the Day schools and yeshiva kids I know – excluding my own of course.
Just a thought –
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I don’t really understand the issue, if someone on the street is throwing something dangerous at people’s heads, holy book or otherwise, public school kid, yeshiva bochur, mentally ill homeless person, or businessman, you should call the police.
i’d call the cops the second i see them throwing ANYTHING out of a WINDOW-that was for you, hodulashem.
BTW – Just -a-guy,
I 100% agree what difference should it make who is doing the wrong? Are we not obligated to report any wrong doing?
Well, I wasn’t trying to open that can of worms, just saysing that if someone’s doing something dangerous, you don’t have to agonize over what to do. 911.
smalltowngirl,
Generally, one is able to differentiate Public School kids from Day School kids by their appearance. I’m not sure why you would question working’s vision.
doesnt matter if they were jewish or not! call the cops!
I guess I am very defensive on this topic because I now have a son in public school, wearing a kipah, tzisis and the waistline of his pants where they are designed to be. He has friends in day school who could very easily be mistaken for having the public school look.
I only want to stress that looks can be so deceiving…
Sorry if I caused any friction or negative feelings…
smalltowngirl,
I agree, son sounds like he looks like a Day School kid! So you are right, looks can be deceiving. Your son sounds like he is making a Kiddush Hashem, and is proud of Jewishness. Chazak! 🙂
personally, i live in boro park, where the world is split into two very clear groups public school kids and yeshivah kids, and the two are clearly recognizable as such. so, i apologize for any possible generalization, its just where i live, that generalization is clear
whats the difference how the person looks, if i see a frum yeshiva bachur throwing books i would go over to him tell him to stop and if he doesn’t i’d threaten to call the cops and if he ignores me i would call the cops- the same for if it was a regular guy on the street,the fact is no person may do something like that in the street
“the fact is no person may do something like that in the street”
Of course. I assume that’s a given with everyone.
sheesh…i have already said in a previous post, and i quote…”doesnt matter if they were jewish or not! call the cops! ” i am just saying, that there IS a clear distinction between public school kids and yeshiva kids where i live…no need to go postal…
HOw about in a friendly manner trying to talk to them and clearly explaining what is wrong with it from the onset. For all they know and care, they might think they are throwing little hebrew (or any other foreign language) story books out the window to kids in their schoolyard. I have talked to non-jewish public school kids before, not in the best of neighborhoods. If you are calm, rational, and sincere about it, they may listen, they may not. It’s definitely worth a chance.
the type of book is irrelevant…its a crime to throw anything on anyones head
The strangest part of this all was from from where they got hold of these sefarim. Were they rather throwing some hebrew books than english story books?
I wasn’t there. I am just suggesting an idea.
The on who posted seems to be having more of a problem with the sefer part than the safety aspect. Was it really a safety issue? I don’t know.
Was it really a safety issue? I don’t know.
If someone were throwing something at my head, I would consider it a safety issue. And it doesn’t matter whether they were throwing them from a window or out on the street. I still don’t want anything thrown at my head.
torahis1 – you totally made my day! And I thank you
My son will not be going to a yeshiva because the 2 options in my city are not appropriate options for him. Sending him away is NOT an option – he doesn’t want to go away and we don’t really want him to go either.
As with any label, just because one sends a child to a yeshiva, doesn’t mean they are in a safe and loving environment. I must tell you that my son in public school is just where he needs to be.
I do thank you so very much for the chizuk, and yes I (we) do care very much for our sons…
Smalltowngirl,
May you always have special Siyata D’shamay in bringing up your son, and may he continue to have the strength of character to look like a proud Jew wherever he goes.
thank you for clarifying about the window 😀 but thatis how you made it sound…
bombmaniac:
working wrote the following:
I was walking on the street . . . when public school lets out. I saw a bunch of young kids . . . holding a bunch of sefarim in their hands . . . and this kid kept on throwing a sefer on passing peoples heads
How does that sound like a window?
Smalltowngirl, you sound like a GREAT mother, keep it up! There are many people in my community who are sending their boys to public school, with a kippa and tzitzis. One has to do the best for their children and sometimes a yeshiva can’t provide a child with what he or she needs. More power to you, yaasher koach, and Freilichin Chanukah!!
Thanks All –
chanoch lanaar al pi darko –
^yeah that…and haifagirl…you gotta admit that it sounds like a window…how else are they gonne getting it on the head…unless it was yao ming…lol
bombmaniac: To be perfectly honest, when I read the first post, I was picturing a bunch of kids on the street throwing books at people’s heads. When I read your post, I wondered from where you got the idea of a window, since there was no window mentioned, nor implied. I am not a very good athlete, but I could easily throw a book at someone’s head if we were both standing on the street. Nowhere did it say the top of the head. I’ll bet you could throw something at the back of someone’s head.
haifagirl- the original post said throwing “on” people’s heads, as opposed to “at” people’s heads. While on doesn’t necessarily mean on top of, it does suggest the top, whereas “at” suggests the sefarim were being thrown from ground level, at people. Not that this is important…
J-a-g: I’m impressed. You are actually being literal about what somebody posted. Of course, when I do that, people give me a hard time for being the “grammar police.” It’s taken some time, but I’ve learned to read most of the posts in the CR with the understanding that very few people here have a concept of writing clearly and using correct words. It’s still frustrating to read, but it makes it easier to interpret.
Haifagirl- I am a full supporter of your role as the grammar police. Grammar, and proper usage of words, aren’t just small things to nitpick about. They’re tools to help people communicate effectively.
J-a-g: Thanks. It’s a nasty job, but someone has to do it.
lol i guess this topic was just an EPPIC PHAIL!!!
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