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NO LAUNDRY!!!! (don’t remind me what happens after Tisha B’Av!)
You can eat milchig chocolate and ice cream at anytime with out having to make crazy calculations if your flesigs!
What else? Always find the good in life! ?
SiDi™
Not sure this is productive for the 9 days. The 9 days are a bad time. We arent supposed to sugar coat it or lessen the badness of the time. On the contrary we are so far removed from even feeling what we should feel that we should try to go out of our way to feel the badness of the time, not try to be jolly. Mishenichnas Av memaatin besimcha.
I know you meant well.
Mishenichnas Av memaatin besimcha.
Lessen, don’t eliminate.
I don’t have to take anyone shopping.
I have time to listen to lots of shiurim cuz the CD player is always free.
I had a friend (now deceased) who said she always had mixed feelings about this time. Although it’s generally a sad time, her parents were liberated on 9 Av.
Our longing for Moshiach should become a lot stronger!
Lessen, don’t eliminate.
dash, although your statement seems perfectly logical, this is not necessarily correct. To see this, take a look at the Mishna Berurah 551:1, sif katan aleph. The shaar hatzion on that Mishna Berurah brings down a way to see things your way, but also a way to see things the Mishna Berurah’s way.
Dash: I believe whether or not it means to just lessen or to eliminate completely is two Dei’os in a Tosfos in Yevamos.
My daughter was born in the 9 days. I asked my Rav many years ago, if we were allowed to celebrate her birthday with a party. He said, it was perfectly OK, as long as there is no music at the party.
We can appreciate that the rest of the year we are not vegitarians carnivores rule!!!
I’m with WIY on this one. We are *supposed* to be sad in the 9 days, not try to find thingst to be happy about.
We should be doing this ‘seeing the good’ exercise when something we consider to be bad happens to us.
I’m an omnivore.
Lets face it plenty of people like fish and accapella. And mourning too! 🙂
When Liszt met Tchaikofsky he was impressed by how mournful he was
I chap arein with listening to shiurim. Go onto torahanytime.com for a full selection of shiurim on Tisha B’av from R’Krohn & R’Wallerstein who can set your tone for these days.
A time to strengthen ourselves in ahavas yisrael (should be done whole year but at least in 3 weeks. Read gedolim stories like R’Scheinberg & R’Finkel who had the greatest ahavas yisrael of our dor! Iy”h by doing this it will speed Moshiach’s arrival!
Iy”h by doing this it will speed Moshiach’s arrival!
Moshiach will come when Hashem is good and ready for him to come. Our job is to learn Torah and do mitzvos and trust in Hashem. Period.
There are maamorei razal that tell us that if we do something it will hasten moshiachs coming. For example gidola tzdaka shemikareves es hageula. What do you think that was for, informational purposes only?
News Item:
The Agriculture Department is under fire from ranchers and Capitol Hill after encouraging employees to go vegetarian one day a week and warning that meat production contributes to climate change.
The department has since backed away from the statements, but not before causing a bovine brouhaha, particularly at a time when the drought is threatening America’s ranchers.
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think one day is hard try 9 in a row
“We should be doing this ‘seeing the good’ exercise when something we consider to be bad happens to us.”
But the Shulchan Aruch (I think OC 230:5) says one should always be accustomed to saying, “Everything the merciful one does is for the good.” Always. (It doesn’t say “always, except for the 9 days.”) Gamzu l’tovah is equally true during this time, so I think there’s nothing wrong with looking on the bright side even now (provided we’re mourning and decreasing our joy as required, etc.) Believing everything is for the best is a basic facet of emuna and bitachon, in which we are obligated at all times.
think one day is hard try 9 in a row
Shabbos. Twice this year.
There are maamorei razal that tell us that if we do something it will hasten moshiachs coming. For example gidola tzdaka shemikareves es hageula. What do you think that was for, informational purposes only?
Gedolim stories are not tzedaka.
First of all i would assume he was talking about gaining ahavas yisroel from reading these stories after all that was the relevance of these stories to the 9 days. Second of all your response consequentially made a further reaching assumption than the scope of YWs comment which i adressed in my response.
Kozov: I’m not sure what your first sentence is arguing on. As for your second sentence, while there are mamrei razal that say such things, it is not for us to make the cheshbon of how quickly moshiach will come. I feel like this was addressed in a recent thread someone.
Anyway, since we don’t know when moshiach will come, it is impossible to know the extent that our tzedakah (in your example) hastens his coming. We have emunas chochamim that it will hasten his coming because razal said so. But how much so is impossible to determine. So our job is to learn Torah and do mitzvos and trust in Hashem. Moshiach will come when Hashem is good and ready for him to come.
I dont see how not being able to do determine when or how has anything to do with why he does it. As for the first sentence, i was saying that these are not just gadol stories per say but something that had an uvechein in torah and mitzvos which is more likely to hasten moshiachs coming. Though admittedly i didnt explain why anything besides for tzdaka had a connection (though ahavas yisroel is connected to it). I probably got thrown off track because your response seemed to indicate that you were trying to completely contradict what i said by saying absolutely “gedolim stories is not tzedaka” when (in retrospect) clearly all it did was address a technical aspect in my response not the essence, which you waited to do till now, which i wonder about. In any case, consider the words of the rambam in Hilchos Tshuva Perek 3 Halacha 4:
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Kozov: Sorry, but I just don’t know exactly what we are arguing about, if anything.
I wanna add: Also, they should get a 16 or better yet, a 32 oz. Double Gulp to go with that!
A Double Gulp isn’t 32 ounces, it used to be 64 and currently is 50. Also it is not twice as large as a Gulp, which is only 20 ounces. If you want 32 ounces you need a Big Gulp.
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Thanks SiDi™, I actually bought one of those for my son in yeshiva ‘cuz it was the only thing out there that does not list video capability on the box. The oddest thing happened to me though, befitting for Tisha B’av actually. Tisha B’av was my brothers last kadish for my sister as it is 11 months now since she died. Thinking of that, I was looking through some of her stuff since I was sad anyway, and found a walkman in the pocket of her backpack. I emptied it today so I could fill it with shiurim. It was a horribly painful process but I did it.
Regarding Double Gulps – How did you know????? My kids are slurpee-holics but I have always had a serious Double Gulp addiction. Ever since the 64 oz days. When I was sitting shiva for my other sister I had just gotten back from seminary two days before and someone brought a double gulp to the shiva house knowing how much I missed them.
Thank you, that was very kind.
The one good thing is that you really really look forward to Shabbos
This isn’t really a good thing about the 9 days, but I am trying to have people commit to learn or say Tehillim a few minutes extra every day specifically in hone zchus of the situation in eretz Yisrael. My hope is to have a 24 hour rotation of learning from people all over the world. Would anyone like to participate or help me spread the word?
Best part of the 9 days compared to Asseres Yemei Teshuvo:- No Selichos to worry about. Regular Davening and no extra pressures to keep up with Selichos.
yes, but you get to eat meat during the Aseres so who cares
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