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“May not a future generation well ask how any Scientist, in full possession of his faculties and with adequate knowledge of information theory, could execute the feat of cognitive acrobatics necessary to sincerely believe that a supremely complex machine of information, storage and retrieval servicing millions of cells, diagnosing defects and then repairing them in a teleonomic Von Newman machine manner, arose in randomness – the antipole of information”.
-Dr A. E. Wilder-Smith-
Huxley Memorial lecture at the Oxford Union, Oxford University, 1986.
The thought of what has been accomplished, is the death of what can be accomplished.
Mod 80
I thin it means that by humans there’s a concept of either something will probably happen or a probability that given x amount of tries it will show up. But that just tells you how likely something is to happen not that it will DEFINITELY happen or when it will happen. But Hashem knows if and when it will happen. Meaning if you spin a dice x amount of times the probability of getting a 4 is x. Hashem knows if you spin that dice the 3rd spin will be a 4. Am I making sense or have I just confused myself and everyone reading this?
“Well, we alrady bought the tickets” – Abraham Lincoln
To: WIY …
yes.
WIY is essentially correct.
de Finetti’s point is that probability can be used to develop beliefs, but does not have any objective reality.
I brought the quote as a counter statement to yours- the fact that an event is a “scientific impossibility”, i.e. statistical probability near 0, does not in any way shape what has happened or what will happen.
If tomorrow morning the sun doesn’t rise (probability of near 0*), you would not be able to pretend it did not happen simply because it was too unlikely.
* I say near 0 because on the day when “Shemesh B’Givon Dom”, the sun in fact did not rise in this part of the world. Now you can’t discount the fact that it happened simply because it is impossible statistically. Because probability does not exist (except in your mind).
we function, decide, and think based on probabilities
the quoted said scientifically impossible not i.
a measure of how small he thought the probability to be i imagine.
there is a certain probability hat the army ants in africa combine their minds into a vast consciousness and have directed the movements of the celestial bodies. but i dont accept that as a valid scientific theory
But you took the quote out of context, as seen by the quote I brought from him- first define what “impossible” means.
If a tree is a tree because a tree is a tree, and a car is a car because a car is a car, then a tree is a tree and a car is a car. But, if a tree is a tree because a car is a car, and a car is a car because a tree is a tree, then a tree is not a tree and car is not a car.
I don’t understand this. What does it mean? Why would a tree be a tree because a car is a car?
Maybe I could understand if a tree was a tree because a different tree was a tree. But then, the conclusion would not be that it is not a tree. The conclusion would be that it should not be a tree.
Even so, I am I means nothing because while I can imagine a car acting like a tree, “car” and “tree” are both objects which something can become, however, “I” is a word which is used by a person to refer to himself- “I am I” is completely redundant.
All kidding aside, does this line actually mean anything?
yes
“Children are happy because they don’t have a file in their minds called “All the Things That Could Go Wrong.”
practice makes perfect, but nobodys perfect, so why bother practice?
Here are some quotes attributed to Yogi Berra; (The wisdom lies in their simplicity.)
1)It ain’t over till it’s over; 2)Deja vue all over again; 3)It’s starting to get late early; When asked if he wants Scotch, Plain or on the rocks, he replied. Plain, with ice.
“To each his own; but to some, their very own.”
-Popa B. A.
if every day is a gift, where can i return Monday?
What happens if you get scared half to death twice?
Just cos you’re not paranoid it doesnt mean they’re not all out to get you.
I dont care who you are Fatso, just get those reindeer off my roof!
You can observe a lot by just watching.
if you take a stone and put it into a fire it gets very hot.then you can put the stone on the street corner and people who are can can come and warm their hands. – Gil Locks
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.”
– Winston Churchill
Worrying is like a rocking chair. It keeps you moving but gets you nowhere.
“you are a master of your silence – and a slave of your spoken word”
as retold to me by my Kallah
*bump*
“everything that H’ does is the absolute very best thing that can possibly happen to a person due to the circumstances that he put himself if by his own free choice” (R’ A.)
and my new favorite: ?”Don’t be afraid of pressure. remember pressure is what changed a lump of coal into a diamond”
My favorite quote from one of my sisters (and this has given me chizuk many a time) is: I know Hashem wouldn’t give me anything I couldn’t do. I just wish He wouldn’t trust me so much.
😀 Zuberman! 😀
Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric- Bertrand Russell
Although golf was originally restricted to wealthy, overweight protestants, today its open to anybody who owns hideous clothing- Dave Barry
Humility is no substitute for a good personality- Fran Lebowitz
The proof that man is the noblest of all creatures is that no other creature ever denied it- Georg Christoph Lichtenberg
If you always do what interests you, at least one person will be happy- Katherine Hepburn
“Al ta’am vere’ach ein ma lehitvake’ach!”
Yesterday is history
Tomorrow is a mystery and
Today is a gift, that is why it’s called the present.
If you think you can, you can.
And if you think you can’t, you’re right.
Mary Kay Ash.
Even if you’re on the right track, you’ll get run over if you just sit there.
Will Rogers.
The only thing in life achieved without effort is failure.
We have to believe in free will. We have no choice.
Isaac Bashevis Singer
Every evening I turn my worries over to God. He’s going to be up all night anyway.
Man does not live by words alone, despite the fact that sometimes he has to eat it.
Adalai Stevenson
Clarke’s Three Laws:
1.When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2.The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible
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3.Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke
The road to success is not straight.
There is a curve called failure, a loop called confusion, speed bumps called friends, red lights called enemies, caution lights called family.. You will have flat tires called jobs but if you have a spare called determination, an engine called perseverance and a driver called God, you will make it to a place called success!
Sometimes you need to run away just to see who will come after you.
We are never really as wise as we think we are.
-bein_hasdorim
-professional poster
In the past, many such as Jax,(where is he?) mepal and
myself as well as others have posted some funny, moving, and inspiring quotes, in the thread labeled “Inspiring Quotes”
Look it up.
Winston Churchill-“some people put their feet in their mouth,others only open their mouths to change feet”!!!lol!!
“I am what i think you think i am”
something like: i can’t believe how much smarter my father got from when i was 18 till i was 22 (Mark Twain)
Life is like a piano: it has white days and black ones – but if you know how to play it makes a beautiful song!
I told you I love music (check the “What’s your favorite” thread)!
Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
nothing is going to get better. It’s not.
It’s not about what it is it’s about it can become
If I am I and you are you the I am I and you are you but if I am you and you are I then I am not I and you are not you
Don’t tell me the sky’s the limit when there are footprints on the moon
People find it far easier to forgive others for being wrong than being right
The future depends on what we do in the present
Fall seven times, stand up eight
It is our choices that show us what we truly are, far more than our abilities
It is impossible to live without failing at something, unless you live so cautiously that you might as well not have lived at all – in which case, you fail by default.
It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be
“You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.”
– Ayn Rand (1905-1982)
“Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted.”
– Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
“I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have.”
– Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
“Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by fighting back.”
– Paul Erdos (1913-1996)
“The only difference between me and a madman is that I’m not mad.”
– Salvador Dali (1904-1989)
“Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.”
– Plato (427-347 B.C.)
“He who has a ‘why’ to live, can bear with almost any ‘how’.”
– Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900)
“I’m all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let’s start with typewriters.”
– Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)
“God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.”
– Voltaire (1694-1778)
“I have not failed. I’ve just found 10,000 ways that won’t work.”
– Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)
better to remain silent and people THINK you are a fool, than to open your mouth and prove them right!
Winston Churchill was once told “if you were my husband I would poison your food” to which he replied “If you were my wife I would drink it”!
The best part of being honest, is that you dont need to have a good memory! (Winston Churchill)
Some more from Reb Winston zatzal:
If you are going to go through hell, keep going.
We make a living by what we get, but we make a life by what we give.
The farther backward you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see
yaff80 – great quotes
Charity begins at home, but it should’nt end there.
Growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional.
Of all things you wear, expression counts the most.
You always pass failure on the way to success.
Of all the things I lost, I miss my mind the most.
If you think you have no faults, that makes one.
Time is like a tailor, specializing in alterations.
The darkest hour is only 60 minutes.
He who has no money is poor, but he who has nothing but money is poorest.
Even though we can’t have everything we want, most of us should be thankful we don’t get what we really deserve.
Humility is a strange thing…. when you think you’ve got it, -you lost it.
If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, just what does an empty desk mean?
If it were’nt for the last minute, nothing would ever get done.
Politicians and diapers should be changed regularly and for the same reason.
A man is incomplete until he is married after that he’s finished.
The city of happiness is found in your state of mind.
It’s nice to be important, but it’s more important to be nice.
Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday.
A smile is a curve that sets things straight.
Don’t tell Hashem how big your problems are, tell your problems how big Hashem is.
Beware of the half truth, you may have gotten the wrong half.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Experience is like a difficult teacher, because he gives the test first and the lesson afterwards.
Life is like a ten speed bike, most of us have gears we never use.
The world is full of willing people. Some willing to work, others willing to let them.
The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary.
Life is like a bicycle, you don’t fall off unless you stop pedaling.
Be like a postage stamp, stick to something until you get there.
“You can always take one with you”
Winston Churchill’s slogan for a potential suicide bomber campaign in case of a Nazi invasion of England
Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, And Nobody:
This is a little story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody, and Nobody.
There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it.
Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it.
Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody’s job.
Everybody thought that Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn’t do it.
It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have done!
SiDi™
There is hardly anything that never isn’t a lie, and hardly anything that never is.
-TheMusicMan
Humility is a strange thing…. when you think you’ve got it, -you lost it.
Incorrect. Knowing that one is humble is not a contradiction to being humble.
Humility means understanding that any qualities and talents that one has is not one’s own work or success, rather it is God Who has given him these qualities, and one is therefore no better than one without these abilities.
Wit beyond measure is a man’s greatest treasure.
People find it far easier to forgive others for being wrong than being right
It is our choices that show us what we truly are, far more than our abilities.
— I know where you got those from, Luna Lovegood.
Are the next three also in the same series???
It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be
The future depends on what we do in the present
It is impossible to live without failing at something, unless you live so cautiously that you might as well not have lived at all – in which case, you fail by default.
It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be
This line reminded me of the following poem:
~~ HOW DID YOU LIVE YOUR DASH?~~
I read of a man who stood to speak
At the funeral of a friend
He referred to the dates on her tombstone
From the beginning…to the end.
He noted that first came her date of birth
And spoke the following date with tears,
But he said what mattered most of all
Was the dash between those years.
For that dash represents all the time
That she spent alive on earth…
And now only those who loved her
Know what that little line is worth.
For it matters not, how much we own;
The cars…the house…the cash,
What matters is how we live and love
And how we spend our dash.
So think about this long and hard…
Are there things you’d like to change?
For you never know how much time is left,
That can still be rearranged.
If we could just slow down enough
To consider what’s true and real,
And always try to understand
The way other people feel.
And be less quick to anger,
And show appreciation more
And love the people in our lives
Like we’ve never loved before.
If we treat each other with respect,
And more often wear a smile..
Remembering that this special dash
Might only last a little while.
So, when your eulogy’s being read
With your life’s actions to rehash…
Would you be proud of the things they say
About how you spent your dash?
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