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I would think any candidate with a heart would as well. It is only Obama who and his hard hearted cronies who have ignored the broken Jewish hearts.
aries,
I’m no Obama fan, but Clinton and Bush didn’t grant clemency either.
Why didn’t George W. Bush pardon him Aries?
I am not sure, but Pollard himself was NOT requesting pardons as he is today and his health wasn’t failing as it is today, nor was his father dying. A lot of variables has changed over the years. So asking what happened in the past is not really appropriate. There has NOT been the same push or the same amount of media and political requests coming through in the past to any other president as has come through to this one. Can anyone say that you can weigh all the variables and they all match up?
The Bush presidency only ended 3 years ago were not talking decades.
I remember calling the White House by Bush II to ask for Pollard to be released (I would only do that if there was a movement then)
There was always a movement but Pollard himself was not always involved. In addition, a lot has changed in three years. The Israeli government has been making requests on his behalf, congressman are making requests on his behalf and like I mentioned earlier his father was ill and dying and then died and humanitarian requests were made because of that. Humanitarian requests were made because of his own declining health. That didn’t happen under Bush.
aries,
You’re right, the pressure is more, but we don’t know that Bush would have done anything under these circumstances either. Either way, he needs our tefillos and we need to keep on pushing.
BTW, “inclined to consider clemency” means nothing. Obama’s probably considered it also.
Aries GWB was well aware of Pollards plight and he chose to do nothing sorry but he is just as bad as Obama in this case.
Don’t expect anything from Gingrich.
The fact that people forget things with time is his only asset.
Prior to running for the presidency, there are quite a few unsavory quotes from him about Israel and America’s [challah] role [roll] with Israel.
He is more the chameleon than a newt.
I am not discussing which president was more considerate to Pollard’s plight. I am however pointing out the difference in the movement and the difference in Pollard’s situation between to two Presidential terms. You can’t say that under the same circumstances and pressure that Bush would not have chosen clemency. Bush was on different terms with Israel and with congressional leaders. Under the same circumstances and the same pressure, it is more likely that he would have accommodated the requests.
Aries you used this story to attack Obama and trust me I’m no supporter of his I’m just saying GWB was well aware of the situation.
Goq, I am not saying he wasn’t aware. Everyone was aware. Clinton was aware. But the variables have changed. There were many people willing to go to bat for Pollard 20 years ago but Pollard himself wasn’t willing to do what was asked of him. He changed, the variables changed, his supporters changed. That is all I am saying. Of course I am not a supporter of Obama. I have NOT made a secret of that. But as variables change so do the reasons why a person should be shown mercy. The president whoever he is needs to take that into consideration no matter what his Vice President says. OK? Are we clear on that? What has the president done for any Jew or for the state of Israel.
Have you read Michael Savage’s comments today? Do you get his point? Why did the president make a chanuka party two weeks before Chanuka? What was so inconvenient about celebrating Chanuka on any one of its eight nights? What was that comment about the whiskered people? Come on, lets NOT bend over backwards to make him look fair or good. That would only make us look like fools.
BTG, wondering what you are referring to? I have never heard another politician willing to be so strong publicly on Israel as Gingrich.
Michael Savage has offered Gingrich 1 million dollars to drop out of the race.
Aries like i stated earlier i dont approve of Obama and i do not support him i didnt vote for him last time and i wont vote for him this i do not like obama sam i am! , i just think you were using this topic to bash him when he is no better or worse ie pollard than previous presidents. If you want to bash him there are no shortage of topics but this is not the one.
Hi Staman and EzratHashem.
I hear what you are saying, but I do not think I am wrong at all.
Over the years, Gingrich has made comments that Israel expects too much from America, and many other nationalistic statements echoing the sentiments of Pat Buchanan. One proof of this is his Contract with America where he basically did not want to spend a dime on America, let alone on Israel.
I believe Newt has already had many of his real statements “whitewashed” from the internet because he really wants to be president and is not beyond saying and doing whatever he feels needs to be done.
These days, even his statement about “reconsidering” clemency on Pollard, is a weak, pale, and politically manipulative statement on the subject.
Regarding Pollard, he would “consider clemency?” As opposed to not wanting to discuss it? How nice!
Why does he not just come out like so many other statesmen have already done and say, “Release Pollard! He has served more than enough time”.
Newt has not said such a defining statement. Nor will he. He is mincing words. Worse, he is being a slimey politician by such poor example of an ambiguous statement. Again, the chameleon more than a newt.
In any case, time will tell. But dont expect much from any of these career politicians.
“inclined” does not mean will. Always read a politicians words very carefully.
Goq, sorry I disagree, any topic that has to do with Obama is an opportunity to discuss Obama. Biden opened up the discussion in regard to the President and Pollard. He is the one that said Obama was considering releasing Pollard but HE told the President “over my dead body”!
Its ok Aries we will have to agree to disagree no hard feelings.
That means NO CLEMENCY in political language.
Goq, agreed and we still remain friends.
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