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“And the sefarim of the past hundred years are chopped liver that made things up??”
They are not chopped liver. I was merely pointing out that something which is so obviously gezeila should have been mentioned somewhere in the gemara, Rambam, Tur, or Shulchan Aruch, yet we find that it isn’t.
Wolf: I was kidding; however i will gladly take you up on your offer – we shall duel at dawn.
I’ll be your second
klach: My understanding is that wolf indicated he would not resist you.
Which of the misos beis din shall we implement?
Is it a choice? Is it not prescribed specifically?
Wolf,
Haba l’horg’cha, hashkeim l’horgo. Bring your gun (or fangs).
when killing a moser not by beis din, any form of killing is acceptable as long as it’s not barbaric or unusually cruel.
DY: So it is muttar for a capital offense convictee to kill the beis din appointed executioner?
I will not kill anyone, even if halacha allows me to.
Wouldn’t you do it to protect your family (if the situation arose)?
We need two witnesses that the killing is excecuted al pi halacha
What constitutes that the killing is executed al pi halacha? And how will the two witnesses insure that?
“I will not kill anyone, even if halacha allows me to.”
What about when halacha mandates it? You would be a pacifist in the war vs amalek yimachshemam? What about if you saw a rodef about to kill someone (not like me about to kill wolf – that’s a mitzvah d’oraisa)?
It doesn’t matter here, as I’m not bringing my family to this.
Your family would suffer immeasurably if c”v something happened to you.
All kidding aside, is the duel taking place? And if it is Wolf needs a second. I’m already Klach’s second. Maybe I could be both. It would be interesting attempting to duel myself.
Or if you met an Amaleiki.
Why would you be chayiv misa? The killing itself was justifiable. Only the method was not.
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