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Derech Hamelech, where is “here” ? If you are a neighbor, come to my baking. I am not machshiv erev pesachdik matzos, due to a brisker education, but it is just a special time to do it, and I often do. Fresh is best. The keilim is not that big a deal, I started in chul with a good basement and a decent backyard, with lots of trial and error, a succession of mills and ovens. Now I manage in my 90 meter apt+ chatzer. It is 20 years now, and I have become the big moomche, and a farbrente chassid for home baking, contact me, I would be thrilled to get you started.
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And when pesach is on motzei shabbos, (2021 next) should Mashiach not have come, you could be from the yechidei segula that can whip up some matzos on leil haseder.
Actually, my family is makpid not to eat from keilim that had gebrochts cooked in them in the past 12 months. My grandmother has a special frying pan that she uses for shmini shel pesach to make gebrochts.
And this year it doesn’t matter, since last Pesach was 13 months ago.
The Wolf
Actually, my family is makpid not to eat from keilim that had gebrochts cooked in them in the past 12 months. My grandmother has a special frying pan that she uses for shmini shel pesach to make gebrochts.
I’m not criticizing your grandmother or your family, but personally, if it was that much trouble, I would just skip the gebroks on the last day altogether.
The Wolf
Wine would be great just for the shtick since the hechseirim that I eat don’t give a hechsher for wine that has kedushas shvi’is. How did you learn how to make it?
My son did it once and it was a huge investment in time, money, effort and basement space
Derech HaMelech: what about each persons individual keilim (plates, bowls) that have gebrochts (like matzo in soup, etc.) put on them on shmini shel pesach? you dont replace your entire sliverware and keilim each pesach.
“Why? is a stupid question concerning g’brochts.
That’s not very nice”
Do you know Why?
“I’m not criticizing your grandmother or your family, but personally, if it was that much trouble, I would just skip the gebroks on the last day altogether.”
There is a inyan by chasidim to davkah eat gebrokts on shmini shel pesach to show that its only a minhag and not halacha.
I second deyezooger.
WOLF- that post was in response to yours. We Davka eat gebrokts the last day.
Go explain all our Minhagim to someone who’s not a Chassid!! 🙂
‘There is a inyan by chasidim to davkah eat gebrokts on shmini shel pesach to show that its only a minhag and not halacha.’
deiyezooger~ thirded … us, too.
WOLF- that post was in response to yours. We Davka eat gebrokts the last day.
My apologies. I did not mean to offend anyone with my suggestion that I would skip gebrotks. I certainly didn’t mean to mock a minhag. I apologize if I offended anyone.
The Wolf
wolf; we were not complaining, just explaining.
DM: not that Brisk, and I am in Ramot. And not nerves of steel, more like flying high on a hechsher mitzva, and some holy sweat. I always did after the zman with an alternate fire going, and any sfekos and all the trash went into the fire. My matzos get made one at a time, with a 4-7 miniute turnaround time, up to eleven if short handed or slow. This year I am trying out an electric oven ( double saluf pan 2000 watts) so I will skip the erev pesasch run. The right way to start is with a halacha chabura starting around chanukah, or earlier for newbies.
A gem about being “tarud” ( overbusy) on erev pesach:
The halacha in YD tes zayin:vav, when buying an animal to shecht, on four days one must inquire if the progeny or parent was sold at the same time ( oso v’es bno) because the norm is that on these days the animal will be shechted the very same day. These are erev pesah, erev shvuos, erev rosh hashana, and erev the second YT of succos. The tosafot on this sugya asks why the first yom tov of succos is left out, answering that on erev succot, you are too busy with succah, and arba minim and such to be involved with the processing of an animal. IOW, on erev pesach, you really should not have that much to do…
Apologies? Neh! We were just explaining!
“Apologies? Neh! We were just explaining!” .. ditto. not to worry, Wolf 🙂
We as a community are very spoiled. With the economy, job losses, and the price of kosher food, espcially for the Yommim Tovim, people will eat what is on their plates, whether g’brochts or not. We don’t always have a choice. If the rabbonim want everyone to be so m’dakdayk (spelling?) on this, how about they make provisions or invite those who are machmir to their seder tables?
I eat gebrochts. If someone comes to me who does not, I specifically make several alternatives for that guest that will be non-gebrochts, so the guest has plenty to choose from. Al pi halacha, the guest IS permitted to eat even from food that was cooked in a pot that previously held gebrochts. Saying that it is not permissible is a mistake. Gebrochts/non-gebrochts are only a minhag. The fact that they are b’davka eaten on the eighth day of yom tov, proves it is not assur l’chatchilah. If there were a chashash of chometz, gebrochts would be assur even on the eighth day, just as mamesh cometz is. But to each his own. Pesach is definitely a gluten-sufferer’s delight.
Pesach is definitely a gluten-sufferer’s delight.
I’m not so sure. With the Matzah and potatoes you can’t get worse.
The Gra said that someone who doesn’t eat gebrokts didn’t properly experience simchas Yom Tov for Pesach.
I grew up not eating gebrokts. My father in law eats it, and I was warned that he wouldn’t be very accommodating for me on Pesach with non-gebrokts food. I asked my Rav what to do, and he told me to change my minhag to eat gebrokts.
oomis,
I believe Chabad is makpid on keilim. So they wouldn’t eat from keilim that had gebrochts on it.
Then again, they likely wouldn’t eat at your house for a whole host of other chumras they have too.
“the guest IS permitted to eat even from food that was cooked in a pot that previously held gebrochts.”
that is incorrect.
oomis; in halachah there are some things that we are machmir for the first seven days and meikil the 8th day since its only a d’rabunim.
Bump. My family bruks, I am proud to say.
But we don’t mish.
Vilna Gaon, Chatam Sofer, and many others ate gebrokts.
Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky, Chofetz Chaim and many others didn’t eat gebrochts.
And they all lived happily ever after.
Potatoes don’t have gluten. All the potato starch items that come out are purchased in droves by even non-Jews with Celiac.
I know a non-Jewish family where 2 of the kids can’t have gluten, and the parents spend at least $10 K a year on Pesahdik cakes, cookies, mixes, pasta, crackers, sweets, etc.
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