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January 21, 2013 10:20 pm at 10:20 pm #925243HealthParticipant
SB – Like I said, your symptoms look like IBS. If your brother has blood from his digestive system he also needs to see a Gastro.
“What do you think I have? Cancer?”
I’m not the type of practitioner that believes in guessing. I use all available means to come to a diagnosis. Go to a Gastro, tell me his results and then I’ll tell you what I think, whether I agree or not.
January 21, 2013 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #925244mercuryMemberhealth.
thanks for your reassurance. i know i am probably not causing any harm by taking zantac but what soon to be mother wouldnt worry anyway when their doctor doesnt approve? especially with the other meds i take… by the way do you have advice for pregnancy induced sciatica? for the past few weeks ive had terrible pains down my leg (not so much the back as it is my leg. more pain in left then right) every time i move, walk, stand or sit. i mean i cant even roll over in bed without screaming from pain. my dr said i could take a tylenol (ONE tylenol lol) but even after taking 2 extra strengths it didnt so much as even dim the pain at all so i stopped bothering for the most part. i know i cant take advil which has always been my pain relief of choice. ive tried heating pads but it really doesnt help. just makes me feel hot. although bengay does not have a pregnancy warning (atleast not the cvs version) it does have methyl salicylate in it which the pharmacist at the counter said to stay away from (then maybe they should put the warning on!) so if you have advice on what to do for the pain i would greatly appreciate it.
January 22, 2013 12:13 am at 12:13 am #925245snowbunny3318Memberalso, if my legs are feeling warm when I touch them… what does that mean?
January 22, 2013 1:58 am at 1:58 am #925246HealthParticipantSB -“also, if my legs are feeling warm when I touch them… what does that mean?”
Forget about everything else, just go to the 3 different Doctors.
January 22, 2013 2:03 am at 2:03 am #925247HealthParticipantmercury -“by the way do you have advice for pregnancy induced sciatica?”
Luckily for you we have a topic already in the CR called “Sciatica”.
Go to that topic. Do you know how to find a topic here?
I posted extensively there.
January 22, 2013 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #925248mercuryMemberno sorry i dont know how to look it up. if you can maybe give me the link i will read it.
January 22, 2013 5:51 pm at 5:51 pm #925249snowbunny3318MemberHealth: SB -“also, if my legs are feeling warm when I touch them… what does that mean?”
Forget about everything else, just go to the 3 different Doctors.
Me: What does that mean?
January 22, 2013 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #925250HealthParticipantSB -It means – I’m not answering you on your latest question.
January 22, 2013 8:01 pm at 8:01 pm #925251HealthParticipantmercury -“no sorry i dont know how to look it up. if you can maybe give me the link i will read it.”
I’m not good with computers, but try putting this in your web page line above & pressing enter:
January 22, 2013 8:14 pm at 8:14 pm #925252snowbunny3318Membergot it…
January 22, 2013 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #925253mercuryMemberthanks i was able to open the link! appreciate your input!
January 24, 2013 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #925254snowbunny3318Memberthe doctor just gave me a prescription for optalgin and told me to take it when i think i am going to end up missing class and that he will address the underlying issues with the people in charge of my program because my situation is so ridiculous with all the issues that have come along with it that someone else who is a bit more on the sidelines needs to handle it on my behalf (I have tried standing up for myself repeatedly and it hasn’t worked and that is why it has gotten to this point where I am having stress-related gastritis…) I think this means that my condition is now chronicish however I am cleared to eat what ever I want.
January 24, 2013 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #925255NechomahParticipantI would be careful with Optalgin. It is supposed to be a “stronger” pain reliever than Acamol, but it can have side effects. I saw one site that shows abdominal pain as one of the most prevalent side effects. What is the point of taking it if the reason you’re taking is for abdominal pain. Maybe the abdominal pain will be worse as a result of the Optalgin? It’s good that this doctor says they are going to try and help the other issues because hopefully that will help your situation more than the drugs.
BTW – What does it mean that your legs feel warm to the touch? Your hands are not usually as warm as parts of your body that are covered so you will probably feel that they feel warm. Are they red, swollen, painful? Don’t read new symptoms in your body unnecessarily. It will just make you more nervous. I learned one time that first year medical students often “have” many of the illnesses that they learn about in medical school, just as a matter of learning the symptoms of different illnesses and probably deciding that they themselves have those symptoms. Don’t fall into that pit.
January 24, 2013 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #925256snowbunny3318MemberI was told that even though the box for opalgin says I can take it 3-4 times a day, that I can only take one pill once a day if I anticipate missing class for pain related issues. The issue is with my stomach, which is part of my abdomen, however, it is inflamed and at the moment, I am desperate because I don’t want to get booted for no reason other than having medical issues.
I do hope that the doctor will be able to help more than any medication because he originally told me today that I should switch schools, which is not possible at this time or point of the year (or financially), which is why he wants to speak to the people that are in charge of my program for me.
My legs felt warm to touch most likely as a result of another internal panic related symptom. Also, my hands are usually freezing so my legs were probably normal temperature for once.
January 24, 2013 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #925257HealthParticipantNechomah -“I would be careful with Optalgin. It is supposed to be a “stronger” pain reliever than Acamol, but it can have side effects. I saw one site that shows abdominal pain as one of the most prevalent side effects. What is the point of taking it if the reason you’re taking is for abdominal pain. Maybe the abdominal pain will be worse as a result of the Optalgin?”
Welcome to socialized medicine. Something to look forward to here in the US. He is Not so far off as you think. I had to look it up because this drug is Not used in the US. Actually, one of its’ main uses is Abdominal pain. But where this guy is off is because he didn’t get the diagnosis. IBS is somatic pain, not actual. Optalgin is a pain reliever (NSAID). It works on actual pain, like after surgery, not somatic pain. Shrinks give drugs for somatic pain.
“It’s good that this doctor says they are going to try and help the other issues because hopefully that will help your situation more than the drugs.”
It’s not his job. It’s the job of her therapist and shrink. And if she doesn’t have them -she should get them.
“Don’t read new symptoms in your body unnecessarily. It will just make you more nervous. I learned one time that first year medical students often “have” many of the illnesses that they learn about in medical school, just as a matter of learning the symptoms of different illnesses and probably deciding that they themselves have those symptoms. Don’t fall into that pit.”
The students have temporary Hypochondria. Her issues are Not temporary and need professional help. Noone on this site are replacements for therapy and medications.
January 24, 2013 9:00 pm at 9:00 pm #925258danielaParticipantSnowbunny it is my opinion you need to consult with with your parents without further delay, and decide with them how to arrange medical consultation, possibly in the USA.
January 24, 2013 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #925259snowbunny3318MemberI never asked anyone here to be my therapist… plus I trust a doctor who examined me more than people on this website, who have most likely never met me before. My situation is very unique in nature and although that does not mean that I want the world to pity me, by issues, I mean my madrichot called me repeatedly and interrupted my doctor appointment today, and I knew it was my madricha, so I decided that the call wasn’t important. I get one free shabbos a month and I am looking forward tomorrow to having the ability to turn my phone off for around 30 hours, maybe even thirty two or even better, 36 hours! I have never been more excited about turning my phone off on a weekday when it wasn’t shabbos! Things are a lot more complicated than I am making it here. I mean, imagine being told that anything remotely wrong you have done over several weeks (by my doctor today) was only done by me as a result of having such high levels of stress.
For the first few days after taking my medication, omeprazole, (which my great aunt also has chronic gastritis, so we both take the same medication, which further reiterates to me that I got the correct diagnosis…) I felt better. However, eventually things got a bit more stressful and as a result, I have not been able to participate in every single activity on my schedule…. I have done everything that I can do ON MY OWN, and now it is time for my dream of having SOMEONE ELSE volunteer to do the dirty work of standing up to the directors of my program. And yes, although there needs to be adjustments with my therapy, my medications work perfectly fine, been working fine for almost ten years now. Its very difficult to completely adjust when every month since september, I have switched to a new room and the only month I didn’t have a room mate was when I lived in Kiryat Sefer while searching for a place to switch into. Although that month was stressful, it was a lot easier because I had my own room and didn’t have to worry about other people’s extremes in sleep schedules…
January 24, 2013 9:54 pm at 9:54 pm #925260snowbunny3318Memberif i go back to the states, now, I won’t be able to come back…
January 25, 2013 2:52 am at 2:52 am #925261HealthParticipantSB -“For the first few days after taking my medication, omeprazole, (which my great aunt also has chronic gastritis, so we both take the same medication, which further reiterates to me that I got the correct diagnosis…) I felt better. However, eventually things got a bit more stressful and as a result, I have not been able to participate in every single activity on my schedule….”
This is called the “placebo effect”. That drug that you mentioned reduces acid. IBS has nothing to do with excess acid.
“Although that month was stressful, it was a lot easier because I had my own room and didn’t have to worry about other people’s extremes in sleep schedules…”
Are you sure they are the ones with extremes? Getting up @ 11 AM means you went to sleep real late. Perhaps you should go to sleep and wake up at the same times as your roomate?
January 26, 2013 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #925262snowbunny3318MemberI would only get up at 11 am because I wasn’t feeling well. When I am feeling well, I get up at 7:30 am. Class starts at 8:30 am.
January 26, 2013 10:40 pm at 10:40 pm #925263snowbunny3318MemberMods… please close this thread. We are getting to carried away here with diagnoses, plus, in a different thread, Health said that he only plays a doctor online, but isn’t an actual doctor in real life.
January 27, 2013 12:33 am at 12:33 am #925264danielaParticipantI understand, but your health and well-being is precious and more important than aliyah, seminary and your plans. You have to consider your future, which will be bright no matter what, and life will bring new opportunities to do whatever you want. If you neglect your health, and I will not even refer R”L to any serious problems, let me take for granted you don’t have anything serious, only you feel unwell and it interferes with your studies and social life, then you don’t even notice the opportunities, as all of your strength is devoted to holding on and doing the bare minimum to function. We all have been through such periods in our life, you are no exception, but one thing is if it lasts a few weeks (and even so, at your age it’s very hard, compared to, say, a 30-yr-old going through a difficult time) another thing is when it has been continuing for a while, and it’s not likely to disappear tomorrow. I know, perhaps the program / the other students / the teachers / the therapist / the doctors could and should have done differently, but this is the situation. If you were my daughter, I would tell you to take the first flight and not to worry, even if there is no money – money will be found for another flight and another visa, and we will be much happier to spend money on a flight and supporting you in EY in the future, rather than R”L on health issues caused or exacerbated by trying to hold on at all costs. I would also wish that a daughter or son would let us know about what’s happening, because parents exist to help, it takes a huge effort to raise a child which further increases the natural attachment and affection we have for our children, so we look forward to protecting and helping, we do everything in our power, this is what every parents does and you will too in good time. Please, try to see this from a future perspective, try to imagine yourself and your life in 40 years’ time, what is important is your health and well-being, all the rest will follow.
January 27, 2013 9:04 am at 9:04 am #925265snowbunny3318MemberI hear, and I am thinking about going home in the next few weeks as well because my current program is trying to find a reason to kick me out… my mom isn’t religious, so I would have to find all that funding by myself… Since there is a complicated financial picture, I am not sure if I am able to go home on a financial level (not because of needing money for flight, I have an open ended ticket, something else…). My mom knows what is going on, but she isn’t in the mood to have me come home…
January 27, 2013 11:36 am at 11:36 am #925266snowbunny3318MemberAnd naturally, I am going to end up going home in the next few weeks… I just have to take care of some things first… Luckily, I found a place to stay while I sort these things out…
January 27, 2013 12:52 pm at 12:52 pm #925267snowbunny3318MemberAlthough, I just found out that some people want me to stay in my current program, so i might end up staying here, here comes the stomach pain again(?!?!?!?!).
January 27, 2013 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #925268HealthParticipantsnowbunny3318 -“plus, in a different thread, Health said that he only plays a doctor online, but isn’t an actual doctor in real life.”
This is an outright lie! I never said I was a Doctor online or in real life. Whatever I do here – I do IRL. This could make me a doctor or another medical practitioner.
Just because you only listen to what you want to hear and not to things that you don’t want to hear, don’t make up lies about me because I told you something you didn’t want to hear!
January 27, 2013 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #925269ThePurpleOneMemberok health just calm down a bit…
snowbunny-
sounds like maybe all these medical stuff ARE stress related.. maybe u shud just go home to the states but x go home, go to florida for two weeks or s/t.. esp if ur mom x want u home rite now..
January 27, 2013 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #925270SaysMeMembersb- i’m sorry for all the struggles you’re going through. You’re really strong to tought it all out. I hope things can turn around, physically, emotionally, socially… Can relate to missing school for stomach issues 😛 i agree its frustrating, painful, annoying. Yuck. Sending you best wishes for good luck in whatever you decide to do in the next few weeks. And for whatever its worth, a ((hug)).
January 27, 2013 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm #925271snowbunny3318MemberAwwww. that is so sweet. I sent an e-mail to my mom before I spoke to her on the phone and she read it after we spoke and she said she is really proud of me and stuff. I honestly wish I had a direction in life, but at the moment, I feel like this year, instead of clarifying things for me, made everything more confusing… I have no idea what I am doing tomorrow other than the fact that I am going to wake up at 6:45 and call my rabbi at seven for our appointment that we have been trying to work out for over a month…
January 27, 2013 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm #925272SaysMeMemberwell, i wish you the best of luck in working things through on your phone call. Keep your chin up and hope for the best always!
January 27, 2013 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm #925273supermeMemberBeing that we were talkingbout stomach problems I have a question sorry if I’m ruining this thread..; I have bad stomach pains often I don’t have so much of an appetite any more, I’m constanly constipated or total opposite never normal, sometimes I bleed from using the bathroom went todoctors couple of times and kept giving mestuff for IBS like : Mirilax, something stool etc. I am also stressed. Is this possible that it’s gastritis?
January 28, 2013 12:35 am at 12:35 am #925274SaysMeMembersuperme-please dont ask for a diagnosis from cr. Ask your doctor who you’ve seen!
January 28, 2013 3:24 am at 3:24 am #925275mewhoParticipanthow does ANYONE here follow someones recommendations without knowing if they have a license to suggest what to do and moreover…no one is actually being examined. stating your complaints is not the same as being face to face and have a dc examine you. something important might be missed and therefore the advice you are given here would be wrong.
the main thing is go see a real doctor live and in person. preferably one that you are referred to instead of finding him/her in google.
best of luck and refuah shelaimah
January 28, 2013 3:39 am at 3:39 am #925276supermeMemberOk I was just frying to figure out if this is normal wtvr thnxs
January 28, 2013 5:03 am at 5:03 am #925277supermeMemberGoodluck sb
January 28, 2013 5:25 am at 5:25 am #925278snowbunny3318MemberThanks!
January 28, 2013 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #925279HealthParticipantsuperme -“Ok I was just frying to figure out if this is normal wtvr thnxs”
You know it’s Not Normal because you wrote:
“went todoctors couple of times”
So why are you asking now?
“Being that we were talkingbout stomach problems I have a question sorry if I’m ruining this thread..; I have bad stomach pains often I don’t have so much of an appetite any more, I’m constanly constipated or total opposite never normal, sometimes I bleed from using the bathroom and kept giving mestuff for IBS like : Mirilax, something stool etc. I am also stressed.”
So you were diagnosed with IBS. I’ll repeat what I wrote to Snowbunny -IBS is treated by 3 people – a Gastro, a psychologist, and a psychiatrist.
January 28, 2013 9:12 pm at 9:12 pm #925280snowbunny3318MemberI saw a psychiatrist today and started relaxation therapy…
January 28, 2013 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm #925281supermeMemberLots of luck your amazingfor doing that!!
January 29, 2013 1:29 am at 1:29 am #925282HealthParticipantSB -“I saw a psychiatrist today and started relaxation therapy…”
Do you mean a psychiatrist or a psychologist? People sometimes get the two mixed up. Did this have anything to do with my recommendation?
January 29, 2013 1:38 am at 1:38 am #925283supermeMemberhealth- so what are you telling me?
are you a doctor?
January 29, 2013 1:51 am at 1:51 am #925284HealthParticipantsuperme -“health- so what are you telling me?”
I told you who to go see. Look up.
January 29, 2013 4:25 am at 4:25 am #925285supermeMemberYeh but what type of docs are those?
January 29, 2013 6:42 am at 6:42 am #925286HealthParticipantsuperme -“Yeh but what type of docs are those?”
Ask an adult.
January 29, 2013 8:21 am at 8:21 am #925287plonis3141Member1. I had IBS that was B”H cured by taking meds prescribed by a gastro in E”Y – no psychologists or psychiatrists necessary. Not EVERYTHING is pychological.
2. The OP seems to think there is a psychological component, but a person does not get blood in stool from psych. problems. A gastro should be doing testing to rule out anything serious. Do not let any doctor tell you that you are fine and take tylenol when you have blood in your stool.
3. For a really basic suggestion: Did you try going off of milk? Some people have a harder time with the milk in E”Y or develop lactose intolerance suddenly. It took me a full 2 weeks offof milk to feel ok again, when I became lactose intolerant.
Refuah Shleimah.
January 29, 2013 8:50 am at 8:50 am #925288snowbunny3318MemberI did not get them mixed up, I paid $100 and 30 shkalim for the session, so I clearly was paying for a psychiatrist, plus I was told to adjust my medication. A psychologist would not do that.
January 30, 2013 2:33 am at 2:33 am #925289HealthParticipantplonis3141 -“2. The OP seems to think there is a psychological component, but a person does not get blood in stool from psych. problems. A gastro should be doing testing to rule out anything serious. Do not let any doctor tell you that you are fine and take tylenol when you have blood in your stool.”
Blood in the stool is Not part of IBS, but other disorders. Seeing red – doesn’t always mean blood. There is a test that determines if it’s real blood.
“1. I had IBS that was B”H cured by taking meds prescribed by a gastro in E”Y – no psychologists or psychiatrists necessary. Not EVERYTHING is pychological.”
There are a few theories on what causes IBS. One of those is -that it’s a Psychological disease. I obviously hold that this is the most likely reason -therefore my recommendations above.
January 30, 2013 9:10 am at 9:10 am #925290plonis3141MemberHealth – not sure what you meant in your first comment to me – we were agreeing. Blood in stool is not part of IBS – she should have that checked and not blow it off as psychological
In terms of your second point, there can be cases of IBS that are stress related, but there can also be physiological reasons. Silly not to try to treat it based on the theory that it is psychological, when it can be easily solved.
I had several docs tell me it is psychological and to “try not to think about it”. I lost 20 pounds and could barely leave my house. I found one doctor who gave me an anti-spasmotic and it was gone within a few months. No trace of it. Chaval for people to suffer unnecessarily instead of a doctor trying to treat them first and then using the “mind-body connection” thing when meds don’t work.
January 30, 2013 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm #925291snowbunny3318MemberThe blood went away a few weeks ago.
I don’t try to blow off anything as psychological, its the doctors that do that because they don’t think I am being legit.
I did go to a doctor, I went to at least five doctors in the past month. Things get more complicated when your student health insurance requires you to get approval to see a gastro and none of the doctors you went to would give it to you.
January 30, 2013 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #925292HealthParticipantplonis3141 -“Health – not sure what you meant in your first comment to me – we were agreeing. Blood in stool is not part of IBS – she should have that checked and not blow it off as psychological”
Yes, on that we agreed, but my addition was -“her seeing red” -doesn’t necessarily mean blood. It has to be tested. This test can be done by any Med Practitioner, not only by a Gastro.
“In terms of your second point, there can be cases of IBS that are stress related, but there can also be physiological reasons. Silly not to try to treat it based on the theory that it is psychological, when it can be easily solved.
I had several docs tell me it is psychological and to “try not to think about it”. I lost 20 pounds and could barely leave my house. Chaval for people to suffer unnecessarily instead of a doctor trying to treat them first and then using the “mind-body connection” thing when meds don’t work.”
No, I would never tell a patient “to try not to think about it”. This is negating the Pt. and their symptoms. What I suggested above was that IBS pts. seek help from 3 people – a Gastro, a psychologist and a psychiatrist.
“I found one doctor who gave me an anti-spasmotic and it was gone within a few months. No trace of it.”
Nowadays, the Anti-spasmotic drugs are out of the treatment protocol, but some old timers still use them because they have always used them.
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