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If/when any frum politicians are accused and then possibly proven guilty of corruption, isnt it the worst form of Chilul Hashem, outweighing any gains from electing frum politicians?
Are any benefits worth so public a black-eye for frum people, and delectable food for Anti-Semites with material/proof so they can say- “See, those Jews, especially the religious ones, are all dishonest! You cant trust any of them!”
We all know power corrupts. Lifnei Iver lo Sitein Michshol.
Do you want them to say “Look, Jews are so un-American they don’t even have any politicians”?
It would even worse if frum politicians were honest. “Look, Jews are so un-American that their politicians are honest.”
When it comes to frum politicians, it boils down to one question: does he listen to da’as Torah. If he does, he won’t get caught involved in a scandal, and if he doesn’t, what’s the advantage of a frum politician?
One of the issues with “Daas Torah,” is that people often give partial information when seeking it.
To really be success in politics, you have to sell your soul to a large degree. You have to be very skilled to minimize that problem, yet it’s hard to get anywhere in politics if you don’t go along with the wishes of your party’s leadership.
I would prefer a like minded Goy to a Frum Jew anytime.
Most people don’t despise Silver because he is Jewish they despise him because he is corrupt, we should be held to a higher standard and when we don;t live up we should be the ones ashamed, in some circles breaking the law is considered no big deal as long as it benefits the community this is certainly a Chilul Hashem.
You’re right, I didn’t mean a politician who professes to listen to daas Torah, i mean an ehrliche yid who actually does. Anyone who’s every move is based on the gedolim will not go wrong. Of course, there are plenty who claim to be supported by gedolim, but have no plans of actually listening to them. I was talking about someone who’s sincere only wish use to represent daas Torah in the government. I would give examples, but any example would get people upset and detract from the point. In the recent elections, someone came over to a Rosh Yeshiva and told him that a certain politician was waiting outside for a brochah. The Rosh Yeshiva asked “With a camera?” That kind of politician I’m not talking about, and just because someone claims to be endorsed, and even has a picture, doesn’t mean he is.
There are more Non Frum population than Frum and even in Lakewood I think its only abouyt 50/50 and thats one of the highest.
If you are an elected official you are sworn to uphold the US constitution and the State constitutione even if they are diametrically opposed to the torah failure to do so is grounds for removal.
While toievah marriage is not in the US or NY State constituion, Legalized Abortion IS in the NY state constituion and you are legally obligated to uphold that law not matter what any one else says (If you disagree, then dont run for office)
zahavasdad LW is a Makom Torah, it only has frum yidden there
I’m happy I’m not a Gadol who had to make decisions about such things.
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