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  • #1179602
    Health
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    Ubiq -“That’s what I’m telling you – you don’t!”

    So educate me. Please”

    I don’t have the time or energy to teach you law!

    “If was that simple, I’d definitely post it; it’s not!”

    Ah so your example was flawed! Anyway give it a shot. Your a great explainer and I’m a pretty good understander. Dont sell your self short”

    See above!

    “It does exist, despite your denial!”

    Heres what confuses me, earlier you indicated you were ok with us finding it (you encouraged me and others to searhc for it) but didnt want to post the name. If it was a real case I would have found it (and known your name I guess) which you said you were ok with. So why play this game? Just provide the name of the case or search terms that will turn it up? OR say I dont want you to find the case because I wont to be private. Which is fine too. but why this weird middle game?”

    Like I wrote previously, I’m not going to post my name. If you figure it out, I really don’t care!

    “This is what I posted – “I wrote they’re Antisemitic because they didn’t follow their own definition in my court case!””

    “Its been a long thread youve posted all sorts of contradictory staments

    eg:

    “I happen not to have a problem with that interpretation, but what I just posted was to make a point”

    I thought you were an English professor! That wasn’t a contradiction!

    I’ll explain it to you again – I don’t have a problem the way they interpreted “undue hardship”. My problem is that they didn’t follow that interpretation in my court case!

    #1179603
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “I don’t have the time or energy to teach you law!”

    Lol youre funny

    “Like I wrote previously, I’m not going to post my name. If you figure it out, I really don’t care!”

    If that is true, can you provide search terms to help me find it? Or can you provide the other part’s name like this I can find it (which you say you really dont care) and you dont have to post your name?

    “I thought you were an English professor! “

    What on earth made you think that?

    “I don’t have a problem the way they interpreted “undue hardship”. My problem is that they didn’t follow that interpretation in my court case!”

    Have I mentioned how funny you are? So you DO have a problem with how they interpreted “undue hardship” albeit not in an earlier case (by a differently composed court?) but on your case

    #1179604
    huju
    Participant

    To Health, re “I don’t like your posts….” There is no need for a smell test. I am quite open about being a registered Democrat and a liberal. But you asked me what I know about the national debt. Here’s what I know:

    1. It currently stands at about 19,000,000,000,000. That sounds like a lot of money.

    2. The best way to evaluate the level of the national debt is to express it as a percentage of gross domestic product. I am not sure what that percentage is, but I understand that it is well within historical levels.

    3. One source of national debt is federal budget deficits year after year. Do you know the name of the last president who ran a budget surplus, rather than a deficit? (Hint: Bill


    ).

    So, Health, please explain to me what else I need to know about the national debt, and why Hillary is not the best candidate to deal with it.

    #1179605
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“If that is true, can you provide search terms to help me find it?”

    Why don’t you – Do a law search on employment discrimination due to non- accommodation for Saturday observance?!?

    #1179606
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    One source of national debt is federal budget deficits year after year. Do you know the name of the last president who ran a budget surplus, rather than a deficit? (Hint: Bill


    ).

    huju,

    I googled this claim and it brought me to polidiotic and your claim is false

    #1179607
    Health
    Participant

    Huju -“but Dopey Donnie has put his money and neck in a Chinese noose.”

    And who do you think owns a lot of our debt – if not China!

    “2. The best way to evaluate the level of the national debt is to express it as a percentage of gross domestic product. I am not sure what that percentage is, but I understand that it is well within historical levels.”

    You’re correct on the first part! And here it is – but it’s way beyond historical levels:

    And the debt also has grown dramatically even when measured as a percentage of the growing economy, from 52 percent of gross domestic product at the end of fiscal year 2009 to just under 74 percent at the end of fiscal 2015, according to the most recent estimate by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

    “So, Health, please explain to me what else I need to know about the national debt, and why Hillary is not the best candidate to deal with it.”

    Because she’ll continue to increase it, just like her idol – Obama!

    #1179608
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Why don’t you – Do a law search on employment discrimination due to non- accommodation for Saturday observance?!?”

    I ve done that and dozens of variations several times already…

    “Because she’ll continue to increase it, just like her idol – Obama!”

    Isnt that better than bankrupting the country like Trump did 4 times?

    CA

    “I googled this claim and it brought me to polidiotic and your claim is false”

    It is in fact true. you need to do abetter job googling. (though you could argue that it was the repblican congress that helpes balance the budget, but this stament ” Do you know the name of the last president who ran a budget surplus, rather than a deficit? (Hint: Bill


    ).” is without question true.)

    #1179609
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“”Why don’t you – Do a law search on employment discrimination due to non- accommodation for Saturday observance?!?”

    I ve done that and dozens of variations several times already…”

    You probably used Google or Yahoo. Try a legal site, like LII or others!

    “Because she’ll continue to increase it, just like her idol – Obama!”

    “Isnt that better than bankrupting the country like Trump did 4 times?”

    Stop with the liberal lies! Trump had very few bankruptcies. Most of his businesses are successful!

    What has the Clintons’ success been? The bombing of Serbian civilians?

    Supporting Gay marriage? The death of Americans in Libya?!?

    #1179610
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “You probably used Google or Yahoo. Try a legal site, like LII or others!”

    nope Ive tried legal sites, SCOTUS’s website I had a lawyer and law student help me. None of them can find it. See how far I go to be dan lekaf zechus?

    Can you tell me what year it took place?

    “Isnt that better than bankrupting the country like Trump did 4 times?”

    Stop with the liberal lies! Trump had very few bankruptcies.”

    Amazing stuff! you call my comment a lie while agreeing with it! Have I mentioned How much I love you?

    #1179611
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“nope Ive tried legal sites, SCOTUS’s website I had a lawyer and law student help me. None of them can find it. See how far I go to be dan lekaf zechus?”

    The fact is that you never were “dan me lekaf zechus” from the get go!

    And we just passed the three weeks!

    Obviously a student doesn’t know much! And what kind of lawyer helped you? An accident chaser one?!?

    “Can you tell me what year it took place?”

    OK. What will you do in return for me?

    I filed in district court in 2003.

    The judge gave the decision in 2005.

    “Amazing stuff! you call my comment a lie while agreeing with it! Have I mentioned How much I love you?”

    The only thing that I agreed with was the amount of bankruptcies, not your implication that Trump would bankrupt our country!

    And why do you say you love me? You don’t even know me!!!

    #1179612
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Obviously a student doesn’t know much!”

    Yeah yeah bo one knows anything but you, He couldnt even find it.

    ” And what kind of lawyer helped you? An accident chaser one?!?”

    no. why?

    “OK. What will you do in return for me?”

    what can I do for you?

    “The judge gave the decision in 2005.”

    What do you mean “the Judge” and district court”. Earlier you said the supreme court?

    “And why do you say you love me? You don’t even know me!!!”

    I know the persona of Health that you created online. and I love him! He is very funny and entertaining

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1179613
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“”The judge gave the decision in 2005.”

    What do you mean “the Judge” and district court”. Earlier you said the supreme court?”

    Why don’t you ask your buddy lawyers – how the system works?!?

    I’ll tell you a little bit! First you go to district court, then appeals court, then SCOTUS!

    “I know the persona of Health that you created online. and I love him! He is very funny and entertaining”

    Well your persona is Not entertaining!!!!!!!!!!!

    #1179614
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Why don’t you ask your buddy lawyers – how the system works?!?”

    Lol because I only ask things I dont know. Like how to find secret court cases

    “I’ll tell you a little bit! First you go to district court, then appeals court, then SCOTUS!”

    This entire thread we were talking about SCOTUS. when I asked what year the decision was, that is what I was asking. Again, if you dont want to say that is your right. But why answer soem other question that doesnt help

    “Well your persona is Not entertaining!!!!!!!!!!!”

    sorry you feel that way. You are welcome to just admit you made it all up

    #1179615
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“Lol because I only ask things I dont know. Like how to find secret court cases”

    Just because you and your law buddies can’t find it, doesn’t mean it’s not there!!!

    “I’ll tell you a little bit! First you go to district court, then appeals court, then SCOTUS!”

    “This entire thread we were talking about SCOTUS. when I asked what year the decision was, that is what I was asking. Again, if you dont want to say that is your right. But why answer soem other question that doesnt help”

    I’m way too nice! I tried to help you find my court case and you still are trying to turn it around! I’ll try again to help you & don’t ask me why!

    When you start a court case, whether in state or federal court, it has a name, eg. Feivel vs. Health. And that name stays with the case even if it’s appealed. First with the appeals court and then with Supreme Court. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a State case or a Federal!

    I gave you 2 dates, which is easier to figure out the name, than giving you the date of SCOTUS!

    “Well your persona is Not entertaining!!!!!!!!!!!”

    “sorry you feel that way. You are welcome to just admit you made it all up”

    I’ve have not made anything up!!!

    Maybe you do?!?

    “They dont let you post contact info. And dont want me to pry out persoanl info, which as I said earlier is why i am leaving it alone.”

    Your hypocrisy is astounding!

    You keep trying to ask me what the name of my court case was & I repeatedly told you it has my name in the title!

    #1179616
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Just because you and your law buddies can’t find it, doesn’t mean it’s not there!!!”

    True. But like I said, I dont know how to find secret courtcases. Just becasue nobody can find the loch ness monster doesnt mean it isnt there either.

    ” I’ll try again to help you & don’t ask me why!”

    I wont ask you, becasue I already know! ITs becasue you are so nice (A quick google search turned uo this “I’m way too nice!” No need to ask what I already know.)

    But wait I missed where you tried again to help me, all i’m asking for is the year the supreme corut decision allegedly was handed down. Not for a crash course in civil procedure.

    If you dont want to help, thats fine but dont pretend you are trying to

    “I’ve have not made anything up!!!

    Maybe you do?!?”

    Maybe I do what?

    “Your hypocrisy is astounding!

    You keep trying to ask me what the name of my court case was & I repeatedly told you it has my name in the title! “

    I dont think you know what hypocrasy means (google is your friend) I stopped asking you for the name of the case a while ago. Ive been asking for the other party’s name, the year, a phrase to ehlp me find it. Ive said repeatedly if you dont want to share it thats fine. However you have said on several occasions you dont mind if I find out you just dotn want to post the name. Which while that makes exactly zero sense, I repect it nonethless and havent asked you for the case’s name in quite a while

    Look if from the get go, you had said the supreme court is antisemtiic because in a court decision they ruled agaisnt you, but you dont want to share the decision to protect your privacy.

    Id have left it alone (though probably not beleived you).

    however if you are using it to bolster tyour argument, and expect other sto accept what you say, you have to be willing to prove you assertions. Especially when you claim to be willing to

    #1179617
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“”Just because you and your law buddies can’t find it, doesn’t mean it’s not there!!!”

    “True. But like I said, I dont know how to find secret courtcases. Just becasue nobody can find the loch ness monster doesnt mean it isnt there either.”

    Your implication that I don’t have a court case and is like the Lochness monster is extremely hilarious!

    “I wont ask you, becasue I already know! ITs becasue you are so nice (A quick google search turned uo this “I’m way too nice!” No need to ask what I already know.)”

    Again your implication that I don’t have a court case is hilarious!

    Is this because you think that you can never be wrong?!? LOL

    “But wait I missed where you tried again to help me, all i’m asking for is the year the supreme corut decision allegedly was handed down. Not for a crash course in civil procedure.

    If you dont want to help, thats fine but dont pretend you are trying to”

    You obviously don’t know any civil procedure and neither do your legal buddies! They don’t always make decisions about cases, but leave the appeals court decision stand!

    “Maybe I do what?”

    Maybe you make false statements!

    “I dont think you know what hypocrasy means (google is your friend)

    I stopped asking you for the name of the case a while ago. Ive been asking for the other party’s name, the year, a phrase to ehlp me find it. Ive said repeatedly if you dont want to share it thats fine. However you have said on several occasions you dont mind if I find out you just dotn want to post the name. Which while that makes exactly zero sense, I repect it nonethless and havent asked you for the case’s name in quite a while”

    Actually I gave you two years of dates with my kindness! I won’t give you the name of the other party because like you wrote – “(google is your friend)”, not just you, but anybody that reads YWN will know my name! I’m not going to be the first guy that e/o knows my name!

    You would not be the first.

    #1179618
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Is this because you think that you can never be wrong?!? LOL”

    not only can I be wrong. In this thread I have provided real examples of where I was wrong . So yes while rare it does happen and I readily admit when it does.

    “not just you, but anybody that reads YWN will know my name! I’m not going to be the first guy that e/o knows my name!”

    As I said many times, that is without question your right.

    However you have stated

    “Btw, I personally don’t care about my privacy, but YWN does!

    If they changed the rules and e/o posted their real name, I would too!”

    you made several other comments indicating you dont mind if I figure the case.

    #1179619
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“not only can I be wrong. In this thread I have provided real examples of where I was wrong . So yes while rare it does happen and I readily admit when it does”

    When I said never – it was an exaggeration! So I want to you to admit that you’re wrong in this case!

    “However you have stated

    “Btw, I personally don’t care about my privacy, but YWN does!

    If they changed the rules and e/o posted their real name, I would too!”

    you made several other comments indicating you dont mind if I figure the case.”

    I don’t mind if a few people know my SN’s real name, but I really don’t want it to be public knowledge.

    I’ll repeat my previous post – “I won’t give you the name of the other party because like you wrote – “(google is your friend)”, not just you, but anybody that reads YWN will know my name! I’m not going to be ONE of the first guys (for the Mods comment) that e/o knows my name!

    #1179620
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “So I want to you to admit that you’re wrong in this case!”

    which case?

    “but I really don’t want it to be public knowledge.”

    Dont worry nobody is reading this thread anymore, IT has gotten quite silly.

    and agian, I respect your privacy, just dotn pretend your giving me hints. yo dont want me to know gezunterheit and that is why you wont say. finished, no fake dates, no need to post useless extraneous information and no need to pretend you dont mind if I find out you said on several occasions “Like I wrote previously, I’m not going to post my name. If you figure it out, I really don’t care!”

    This, like most of what youve written in this thread, is also a lie. You DO care which is why you not only wont give your name, or the other party’s name or event the date. Again and I cant stress this enough, if you dont want me to know what case you are referring to, fine I am not even asking you to give information you arent comfortabel revealing. All I ask is you own up to this that, dont pretend you dont care.

    #1179621
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“So I want to you to admit that you’re wrong in this case!”

    which case?”

    This case -“But like I said, I dont know how to find secret court cases”

    “Dont worry nobody is reading this thread anymore, IT has gotten quite silly.”

    Yes it has; but it doesn’t have anything to do with me!

    “and agian, I respect your privacy, just dotn pretend your giving me hints.”

    Well just because you don’t believe me, it doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a real hint!

    “yo dont want me to know gezunterheit and that is why you wont say. finished, no fake dates,”

    It wasn’t a fake date, no matter what you write!

    “no need to post useless extraneous information and no need to pretend you dont mind if I find out you said on several occasions “Like I wrote previously, I’m not going to post my name. If you figure it out, I really don’t care!”

    I’ll repeat it, because you are having problems understanding my posts! I don’t care if you and a few others know my SN or my court case, but I don’t want it to be public knowledge!!!

    “This, like most of what youve written in this thread, is also a lie. You DO care which is why you not only wont give your name, or the other party’s name or event the date. Again and I cant stress this enough, if you dont want me to know what case you are referring to, fine I am not even asking you to give information you arent comfortabel revealing. All I ask is you own up to this that, dont pretend you dont care”

    LOL This is the funniest post yet! I gave you the dates and here it again: I filed in district court in 2003.

    The judge gave the decision in 2005.

    Calling the whole thread a lie is based on what?!?

    Is this the way you deal with your interpersonal relationships?

    If you don’t like something they did or said, you call them liars?!?

    #1179622
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “This case -“But like I said, I dont know how to find secret court cases””

    How am I wrong? I cant find it.

    “Yes it has; but it doesn’t have anything to do with me!”

    We are both equally invested at this point.

    “It wasn’t a fake date, no matter what you write!”

    I meant fake related to the subject at hand.

    Ok lets keep this simple

    you said “I’ll repeat it, because you are having problems understanding my posts! I don’t care if you and a few others know my SN or my court case, but I don’t want it to be public knowledge!!!”

    you are right about that, I cant understand you

    Are you ok with me finindg out your case?

    If yes, please provide year supreme court handed down decision or ideally the other party.

    If no, Im sorry for having waster our time. but please state clearly that you do not want me knowing your case

    “Calling the whole thread a lie is based on what?!?”

    based on the number of lies you have told I can count several ID be happy to list if youd like (I mean real lies)

    Is this the way you deal with your interpersonal relationships?

    No, in real life I ahvent encountered such stubborn liars

    “If you don’t like something they did or said, you call them liars?!?”

    not if I dont like somehing, but if it is a lie, sure Icall it a lie

    #1179623
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“How am I wrong? I cant find it.”

    That’s because you only asked a student & an ambulance chaser lawyer!

    “Ok lets keep this simple

    you said “I’ll repeat it, because you are having problems understanding my posts! I don’t care if you and a few others know my SN or my court case, but I don’t want it to be public knowledge!!!”

    you are right about that, I cant understand you”

    “Are you ok with me finindg out your case?”

    Yes!

    “If yes, please provide year supreme court handed down decision or ideally the other party.”

    For the 3rd time – I’ll repeat my previous post – “I won’t give you the name of the other party because like you wrote – “(google is your friend)”, not just you, but anybody that reads YWN will know my name!

    I already gave you 2 dates which would help you finding it easier!

    But if you’re that stubborn and insist on the SCOTUS date – here it is:’06 !!!!!!!!!!!

    “Is this the way you deal with your interpersonal relationships?

    No, in real life I ahvent encountered such stubborn liars”

    No I was talking about YOU, not me!

    #1179624
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “That’s because you only asked a student & an ambulance chaser lawyer!”

    a student is pretty good at research and has access to his law schools search engines. And the other isnt an ambulance chaser, as Ive already told you. Easy with the lying, im not saying NO lying but just tone it down lekavod Elul.

    Besides, that still not a lie. The truth is after spending some time searching I cant find it.

    “For the 3rd time – I’ll repeat my previous post – “I won’t give you the name of the other party because like you wrote – “(google is your friend)”, not just you, but anybody that reads YWN will know my name!”

    So you want only me to find it, but nobody else?

    At any rate. thanks a ton for the year

    #1179625
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“”That’s because you only asked a student & an ambulance chaser lawyer!”

    “a student is pretty good at research and has access to his law schools search engines. And the other isnt an ambulance chaser, as Ive already told you. Easy with the lying, im not saying NO lying but just tone it down lekavod Elul.”

    Why don’t you practice what you preach?!?

    Eg. -“and agian, I respect your privacy, just dotn pretend your giving me hints. yo dont want me to know gezunterheit and that is why you wont say. finished, no fake dates, no need to post useless extraneous information and no need to pretend you dont mind if I find out you said on several occasions “

    Your post is full of lies!

    I don’t have to figure it out why they can’t find it!

    I assumed maybe because one is a student & the other is an ambulance chaser – so they really don’t know law!

    “For the 3rd time – I’ll repeat my previous post – “I won’t give you the name of the other party because like you wrote – “(google is your friend)”, not just you, but anybody that reads YWN will know my name!”

    “So you want only me to find it, but nobody else?”

    Anybody can find it, but I don’t think that the average poster would take all the time needed to find it!

    Here are the dates again: I filed in district court in 2003.

    The judge gave the decision in 2005.

    And especially for you I just posted above – “But if you’re that stubborn and insist on the SCOTUS date – here it is:’06”!!!

    #1179626
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Sparkly -“Health – you were insisting that you were correct.”

    So what? It’s common place for posters to never admit that they’re wrong!

    Eg. Look at the posters in this topic:

    “Frum people who are unfortunately voting for Hillary Clinton.””

    From here http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/organic-chemistry-and-or-a-and-p/page/3#post-625758

    Just because it is common doesn’t make it right. You are right. This thread provides several examples of you failing to admit you were wrong.

    That dioesnt make it right

    But you are more interesting than mere not admitting you are wrong. You insist with such vigor and google all sorts of silliness in order not to admit.

    On that thread you actually posted this meaningless sentence “It says molecule, Not Macromolecule!” This isnt a line from somebody who “forgot something in biology”

    That is a line from somebody who doesnt know anything on the subject.

    Which is fine, of course, many people dont. But you insist and misinterpret sources over and over to back up your factually incorrect information

    (I moved it here because I dont want to hijack more than one thread with your complete silliness)

    Dont worry I’ll get back to you at the end of the week regarding the case. IT is still being searched for…

    #1179627
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“Just because it is common doesn’t make it right. You are right. This thread provides several examples of you failing to admit you were wrong.

    That dioesnt make it right

    But you are more interesting than mere not admitting you are wrong. You insist with such vigor and google all sorts of silliness in order not to admit.”

    I wasn’t talking about myself, but you!

    Why can’t you get that in your head?!?

    #1179628
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “I wasn’t talking about myself, but you!

    Why can’t you get that in your head?!?”

    Because As ive illustrated with examples, (in this very thread) when I’m wrong I admit it.

    #1179629
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“and agian, I respect your privacy, just dotn pretend your giving me hints. yo dont want me to know gezunterheit and that is why you wont say. finished, no fake dates, no need to post useless extraneous information and no need to pretend you dont mind if I find out you said on several occasions”

    “Because As ive illustrated with examples, (in this very thread) when I’m wrong I admit it.”

    You’re wrong in the above post! And not only did you not admit it – it’s full of lies!!!

    #1179630
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“how on earth do you portray that you’re an expert?!?”

    “I in no way shape or form claim to be an expert and quick correctio: you said “with absolutely very little knowledge about EMS protocols,” I have NO knowledge about EMS protocols”

    “This isnt a line from somebody who “forgot something in biology”

    That is a line from somebody who doesnt know anything on the subject.

    Which is fine, of course, many people dont. But you insist and misinterpret sources over and over to back up your factually incorrect”

    “I have NO knowledge about EMS protocols”

    The above post isn’t from s/o who practices or did practice medicine!!!

    #1179631
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “You’re wrong in the above post! And not only did you not admit it – it’s full of lies!!!”

    My dearest Health, here is the link where I admit to being wrong http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/frum-people-voting-for-hillary-clinton-yimach-shimam/page/3#post-621876 (it is a link to a link)

    For a brainteaser though: Can you now admit that when you said I dont admit to being wrong, you were in fact wrong?

    “The above post isn’t from s/o who practices or did practice medicine!!!”

    Which post? The one about EMS protocols?

    a. Did I claim to practice medicine? (I may have, but I dont recall making that claim)

    b. Do you think All physicians know Specific eMS protocols. Do you think an Allergist or Radiation oncologist knows the first thing about EMS protocols? (No I’m neither of those)

    c. You know less about EMS protocols, but claim you do. You were caught making up protocols and pretending they were established.

    Did you forget that incident?

    I dont want to revisit that here since the mods had to bail you out by closing that thread and I dont want this thread to be closed before I conclusively determine, that which I already strongly suspect, namely that you made up this supreme court case of yours.

    #1179632
    huju
    Participant

    To coffee addict: You referred to information posted at “polidiotic”. The information posted there is not well presented, not clear, and purports to report only debt, not annual budget deficits.

    I found a web site called davemanuel.com, which shows budget surpluses and deficits for 1940 – 2014, and shows surpluses for the last 3 years of the Bill Clinton presidency.

    As Rudy Giuliani said, if you want to know that Hillary Clinton is a criminal, just google Hillary Clinton.

    #1179633
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“Can you now admit that when you said I dont admit to being wrong, you were in fact wrong?”

    I didn’t say never!!!

    I’ll repeat it:

    Ubiq -“and agian, I respect your privacy, just dotn pretend your giving me hints. yo dont want me to know gezunterheit and that is why you wont say. finished, no fake dates, no need to post useless extraneous information and no need to pretend you dont mind if I find out you said on several occasions”

    “Because As ive illustrated with examples, (in this very thread) when I’m wrong I admit it.”

    Starting from the second Ubiq:

    You’re wrong in the above post! And not only did you not admit it – it’s full of lies!!!

    “The above post isn’t from s/o who practices or did practice medicine!!!”

    “Which post? The one about EMS protocols?”

    This post:

    “how on earth do you portray that you’re an expert?!?”

    “I in no way shape or form claim to be an expert and quick correctio: you said “with absolutely very little knowledge about EMS protocols,” I have NO knowledge about EMS protocols”

    “a. Did I claim to practice medicine? (I may have, but I dont recall making that claim)”

    It’s not my fault if you’re going senile!

    “b. Do you think All physicians know Specific eMS protocols. Do you think an Allergist or Radiation oncologist knows the first thing about EMS protocols? (No I’m neither of those)”

    No, but they wouldn’t have the Chutzpah to argue with s/o who does!

    “c. You know less about EMS protocols, but claim you do. You were caught making up protocols and pretending they were established.

    Did you forget that incident?”

    You’re probably making this up! Probably because you didn’t have the foggiest what I was posting! Maybe I was saying that this should be the protocol! Since you nothing about EMS -“I have NO knowledge about EMS protocols”, why do you continue to post on that subject?!?

    “I dont want to revisit that here since the mods had to bail you out by closing that thread and I dont want this thread to be closed before”

    Why do you assume that I wanted it closed?!?

    Perhaps they closed it because of your illogical posts?!?

    “I conclusively determine, that which I already strongly suspect, namely that you made up this supreme court case of yours.”

    Why do you keep posting your lies?!?

    Is it because you can never be wrong?!?

    #1179634
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “You’re wrong in the above post! And not only did you not admit it – it’s full of lies!!!”

    In that post there isnt a single lie.

    “It’s not my fault if you’re going senile!” No it may not be your fault, though is that really what you say to senile people who ask you for help remembering?

    Note how in classic health fasion you didint answer the question. Here it is again: “Did I make that claim?”

    “No, but they wouldn’t have the Chutzpah to argue with s/o who does!”

    I wasnt arguing whether your made up protocol existed. I was asking you for a source which you were unable to provide. first you used your favorite nonsensical copyright excuse. Then you made up an absurd gezeira shava.

    At any rate you seem to indicate that a physiscian wouldnt necceasirly know EMS protocols and thus “knowing nothing about EMS protocol” could in fact be made by ” s/o who practices or did practice medicine”

    which was EXACTLY my point.

    Care to admit you were wrong yet again. Dont worry I wont hold my breath.

    “Maybe I was saying that this should be the protocol”

    Lol that is not what you said. Ill dig up the post later. You said everybody should go look it up becasue there was a difference between 1 and 2 cars but you wouldnt tell us until we looked it up.

    Do you really not remember?

    “Perhaps they closed it because of your illogical posts?!?”

    🙂

    “Why do you keep posting your lies?!?”

    Again what is a lie in my post?

    “Is it because you can never be wrong?!?”

    Hahah!

    Do you even read your own posts?

    In the very opening to this post you said “I didn’t say never!!!”

    Here it is in context:

    “Can you now admit that when you said I dont admit to being wrong, you were in fact wrong?”

    “I didn’t say never!!!”

    #1179635
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“”You’re wrong in the above post! And not only did you not admit it – it’s full of lies!!!”

    “In that post there isnt a single lie.”

    You’re right! There isn’t a single lie, there’s many lies!

    “It’s not my fault if you’re going senile!” No it may not be your fault, though is that really what you say to senile people who ask you for help remembering?”

    Only in your case! And again I was talking about you!!!

    “Note how in classic health fasion you didint answer the question. Here it is again: “Did I make that claim?”

    I’m not sure! But I’m sure that you talked about your residency. That I assumed that it was a residency for a physician.

    “No, but they wouldn’t have the Chutzpah to argue with s/o who does!”

    I wasnt arguing whether your made up protocol existed. I was asking you for a source which you were unable to provide. first you used your favorite nonsensical copyright excuse. Then you made up an absurd gezeira shava.

    At any rate you seem to indicate that a physiscian wouldnt necceasirly know EMS protocols and thus “knowing nothing about EMS protocol” could in fact be made by ” s/o who practices or did practice medicine”

    which was EXACTLY my point.

    Care to admit you were wrong yet again. Dont worry I wont hold my breath.”

    That’s because I hold a person can forget, but you hold you can’t forget! It’s got to be you didn’t know it in the first place, according to your post to me on knowing Biology!

    So how could you claim you did or you do know medicine?!?

    According to you, you must not have known medicine in the first place!!!

    “Maybe I was saying that this should be the protocol”

    Lol that is not what you said. Ill dig up the post later. You said everybody should go look it up becasue there was a difference between 1 and 2 cars but you wouldnt tell us until we looked it up.

    Do you really not remember?”

    Since you can’t have ever known medicine, according to your logic, I’d have to charge you to teach you medicine!

    “Why do you keep posting your lies?!?”

    “Again what is a lie in my post?”

    Again that whole post is full of lies!

    “Is it because you can never be wrong?!?”

    “Hahah!

    Do you even read your own posts?

    In the very opening to this post you said “I didn’t say never!!!”

    Here it is in context:

    “Can you now admit that when you said I dont admit to being wrong, you were in fact wrong?”

    “I didn’t say never!!!”

    Don’t you understand basic English?!?

    There’s a difference between each post, some I said never, and some I didn’t say never!!!

    #1179636
    yehudayona
    Participant

    Yawn. Wake me when Health and Ubiquitin kiss and make up.

    #1179637
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “You’re right! There isn’t a single lie, there’s many lies!”

    Care to identify one?

    “Only in your case! And again I was talking about you!!!”

    thats still not nice. You should work on being nice to senile people.

    “I’m not sure! But I’m sure that you talked about your residency. That I assumed that it was a residency for a physician.”

    ah never assume…

    (though your’e not wrong this time)

    “That’s because I hold a person can forget, but you hold you can’t forget! It’s got to be you didn’t know it in the first place, according to your post to me on knowing Biology!”

    Not quite. ITs just that this sentence “ITs a macromolecule not a molecule” is such gibberish that it indicates you didnt know the first thing. Say you were talking to a physician who mentioned that the heart filters the blood, when you remind him dont you mean kidneys? he says no I googled it and im right. Onve a few people point it out he says oops I forgot. You can be fairly certain he isnt a real physcian.

    “So how could you claim you did or you do know medicine?!?

    According to you, you must not have known medicine in the first place!!!”

    I’m not sure what you mean. I assure you in medical school, residency and fellowship they dont teach EMS protocols, perhaps they should that sint the point. But other than ACLS how to triage 1 accident vs 2 accidents is simply something that has never come up

    “Since you can’t have ever known medicine,”

    What?

    ” according to your logic, I’d have to charge you to teach you medicine!”

    Whast with you and charging for your (wrong) opinions? Remember when you wanted to charge Sparkly for the wrong answer to her question, or when you wanted to charge us for your made up EMS protocol. ITs weird. YWN is free.

    “Again that whole post is full of lies!”

    again care to point one out?

    “Don’t you understand basic English?!?”

    Yes

    “There’s a difference between each post, some I said never, and some I didn’t say never!!!”

    what? you said: “Why do you keep posting your lies?!? Is it because you can never be wrong?!?”

    you also said “I didn’t say never!!!(” in response to “Can you now admit that when you said I dont admit to being wrong, you were in fact wrong?”)

    I dont see how you can reconcile these too staments.

    Do I sometimes admit when wrong yes or no?

    #1179638
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “Yawn. Wake me when Health and Ubiquitin kiss and make up.”

    See PBA’s rule of the Coffee room.

    #1179639
    huju
    Participant

    To huju: If you use your brain once in a while, you would realize that reliable data on budget deficits is at the Congressional Office web site, which confirms that in the years 1998, 1999 and 2000, the federal government had budget surpluses.

    #1179640
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq-“You’re right! There isn’t a single lie, there’s many lies!”

    Care to identify one?”

    From your previous post: “no fake dates,”

    I’m sure you’ll answer me -“but it’s true”!

    HaHa, it’s a real date. After all your posts, I’m sorry I gave you that much!

    “Only in your case! And again I was talking about you!!!”

    “thats still not nice. You should work on being nice to senile people.”

    You’re right! But in your case, I’ll make an exception!

    “That’s because I hold a person can forget, but you hold you can’t forget! It’s got to be you didn’t know it in the first place, according to your post to me on knowing Biology!”

    “Not quite. ITs just that this sentence “ITs a macromolecule not a molecule” is such gibberish that it indicates you didnt know the first thing. Say you were talking to a physician who mentioned that the heart filters the blood, when you remind him dont you mean kidneys? he says no I googled it and im right. Onve a few people point it out he says oops I forgot. You can be fairly certain he isnt a real physcian.”

    I don’t care about your Moshol,

    “So how could you claim you did or you do know medicine?!?

    According to you, you must not have known medicine in the first place!!!”

    I’m not sure what you mean. I assure you in medical school, residency and fellowship they dont teach EMS protocols, perhaps they should that sint the point. But other than ACLS how to triage 1 accident vs 2 accidents is simply something that has never come up

    “Since you can’t have ever known medicine,”

    What?

    ” according to your logic, I’d have to charge you to teach you medicine!”

    Whast with you and charging for your (wrong) opinions? Remember when you wanted to charge Sparkly for the wrong answer to her question, or when you wanted to charge us for your made up EMS protocol. ITs weird. YWN is free.

    “Again that whole post is full of lies!”

    again care to point one out?

    “Don’t you understand basic English?!?”

    Yes

    “There’s a difference between each post, some I said never, and some I didn’t say never!!!”

    what? you said: “Why do you keep posting your lies?!? Is it because you can never be wrong?!?”

    you also said “I didn’t say never!!!(” in response to “Can you now admit that when you said I dont admit to being wrong, you were in fact wrong?”)

    I dont see how you can reconcile these too staments.

    Do I sometimes admit when wrong yes or no?

    #1179641
    dbrim
    Participant

    Hey, can we go back to the original thread? Before you vote, please read Arutz Sheva’s “Why I am not Just Saying No to Clinton”. I despise Regan’s attitude toward chareidim but when it comes to politics and E”Y she’s got it exactly right. If you love E”Y, you’ll vote for Trump.

    #1179642
    ☕️coffee addict
    Participant

    The biggest reason to vote for Hillary…….

    She has proven that she can be bought

    #1179643
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “From your previous post: “no fake dates,””

    Fair enough. Though I meant fake as in irrelevant dates because we werent discussing District courts so those dates were irrelevant. Perhaps “Fake” was poor choice of words. I was wrong to phrase it that way. (Of course the dates may be literally fake too, but I dont know that to be the case)

    “You’re right! But in your case, I’ll make an exception!”

    thats terrible, work on yourself be nice to ALL senile people

    “I don’t care about your Moshol,”

    You dont have to, its still the truth. The physician who forgot the heart pumops blood never really studies medicine, much as the online poster who “forgot” a macromolecule is still a molecule never knew what he was talking about either

    Sadly the rest of your post was just my nonsense without your erudite commentary.

    This question in particular I was hoping to have answered:

    you said: “Why do you keep posting your lies?!? Is it because you can never be wrong?!?”

    you also said “I didn’t say never!!!(” in response to “Can you now admit that when you said I dont admit to being wrong, you were in fact wrong?”)

    I dont see how you can reconcile these too staments.

    Do I sometimes admit when wrong yes or no?

    Oh and as for the original task…

    my search is complete I have exhausted all known search engines and your supreme court case simply never took place not in 2006 nor withing 5 years before or after. (There isnt a single case regarding Shabbos observence at all in the 2000’s)

    As I suspected you have been lying aS usual

    #1179644
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“Oh and as for the original task…

    my search is complete I have exhausted all known search engines and your supreme court case simply never took place not in 2006 nor withing 5 years before or after. (There isnt a single case regarding Shabbos observence at all in the 2000’s)

    As I suspected you have been lying aS usual”

    I’m not surprised that you didn’t find it! You’re incompetent; just like you don’t know medicine, ie. EMS protocols!

    Btw, EMS protocols all come from the practice of emergency medicine!

    So you don’t know medicine and your the one that’s always calling me not truthful!

    Your gag is up!

    But I think that you fooled a lot of posters here!

    Btw, you think I’m fooled by your posts?!? I believe that you went to college and maybe became an OD (eye doc) nothing more!

    If I feel like, I’ll answer the rest of of your Nonsensical post!

    Also I would have given you the information about my court case for free, but now that I’ve experienced your posts about me – it will cost you two million dollars for that information!

    If you’re interested, we can get a third party to do the exchange!

    #1179645
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “I’m not surprised that you didn’t find it! You’re incompetent”

    Youre alos not suurprised, since you knew you made it up.

    Also its not just me who cant find it its 2 lawyers and a student who looked

    “just like you don’t know medicine, ie. EMS protocols!”

    At least Im upfront about that… You make up protocols and pass yourself as being “in healthcare” let me guess you drive an access a ride ferrying people to dialysis. Make no mistake you serve a vital role, but saying you are in halthcare is a bit of a stretch

    “Btw, EMS protocols all come from the practice of emergency medicine!

    So you don’t know medicine and your the one that’s always calling me not truthful!”

    Busted! I dont practice emergency medicine!

    “Btw, you think I’m fooled by your posts?!?”

    Nah youre way to smart

    ” I believe that you went to college “

    chas veshalom! college is tuma!

    “and maybe became an OD (eye doc) nothing more! “

    LEts say that were true do i give out medical advice? Pretending im something else, who cares?

    “Also I would have given you the information about my court case for free, “

    Lol you where just waiting for over 200 comments befroe you offered free info. Seriously why do you think youll get paid for ywn comments? that sint a thing especially not with your track record

    spare me.

    If I feel like, I’ll answer the rest of of your Nonsensical post!

    #1179646
    Curiosity
    Participant

    Please consult your LOR before casting a vote. With very strong emphasis on the O in LOR.

    Although, if you live in NY it probably doesn’t matter one bit who you vote for.

    #1179647
    Lilmod Ulelamaid
    Participant

    Curiousity – good advice, but I’m wondering, “do the Gedolim tell people who to vote for in American elections?” For Eretz Yisrael they do, but I have never heard anyone quote any Gedolim regarding who to vote for in America. But, maybe no one has asked?

    #1179648
    Curiosity
    Participant

    Lilmod – The reason is, in America, in order to retain tax exempt 501c3 status, an organization cannot advocate for one political candidate over another. Most gedolim’s organizations/shuls/yeshivahs are 501c3 and therefore cannot legally claim tax exemption and tell you who to vote for in a public, organization sanctioned forum. Nonetheless, daas Torah affects this decision too, and you can ask your LOR or LOGadol in a private forum.

    #1179649
    Health
    Participant

    Ubiq -“Youre alos not suurprised, since you knew you made it up.

    Also its not just me who cant find it its 2 lawyers and a student who looked”

    If you’re so positive that I made it up – let you and your so-called buddy lawyers, put their money where their mouth is!

    If I don’t produce the case, it won’t cost you anything.

    If I do it will cost you 2 million dollars!

    “””just like you don’t know medicine, ie. EMS protocols!”

    At least Im upfront about that… You make up protocols and pass yourself as being “in healthcare” let me guess you drive an access a ride ferrying people to dialysis. Make no mistake you serve a vital role, but saying you are in halthcare is a bit of a stretch”

    LOL! Btw, What protocol did I make up?

    “Btw, EMS protocols all come from the practice of emergency medicine!

    So you don’t know medicine and your the one that’s always calling me not truthful!”

    “Busted! I dont practice emergency medicine”

    That is a line from somebody who doesnt know anything on the subject.

    The subject of medicine! But you continually post that I don’t know anything about anything! LOL!

    #1179650
    2scents
    Participant

    Health, you really need help.

    #1179651
    ubiquitin
    Participant

    “If I do it will cost you 2 million dollars!”

    I get that your access-a-ride job doesnt pay much. But getting paid for commenting on YWN sadly isnt a thing (unfortunatly, otherwise based on this absurd thread alone, we’d both be rich!)

    Comment for conversations’ sake. Have a discussion like a mentch you made an assertion. either back it up, say its private and you dont want to discuss it furtheror admit you made it up. Charging money isnt a thing

    “LOL! Btw, What protocol did I make up?”

    this one :

    “In any car crash, even though there’s the possibility of a medical cause, it’s Not probable!

    But in 1 car crash, it has to be treated as a medical call, along with trauma.”

    from this classic thread: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/treatment

    “That is a line from somebody who doesnt know anything on the subject.

    The subject of medicine!”

    Ok, I’ll bite. How so? I’d love to here how a say allergist who spends two years basic sciences (NO EMS protocols there), followed by 2 years of basic roations w/ electives where s/he may not choose to do EM (No EMS protocols there. Follwoed by 3 years Int med in a program (like most) that fudges the EM requirement or has a bare minimum of 2 weeks (No EMS protocols there) followed by 2 years fellowship in aLLErgy (NO EMS protocols yet again. At what point does that physician encounter EMS protocols?

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