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Hashem made a beautiful world, and I believe one of the biggest chillulei Hashem some frum Jews make is littering. It shows a lack of respect not only to the non-Jews we live with, but also to Hashem. I do not know if frum groups litter more than other groups per-say, but not everyone views it that way and we should hold ourselves to a higher standard regardless. When I was in high school, any trip we went on resulted in dozens of complaints from the non-Jewish and non-frum people around us.
Are there any Rabbis who are even addressing this issue at all?
It can make a Chillul Hashem, but disrespect to Hashem? Come on…
Sadly sometimes Derech Eretz takes a back seat to Limud Hatorah in some Yeshivos.
http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/seforim-lay-around-plan
please refer to and read my post under Beautiful Sullivan County Parks in the coffee room.
i think the op is a racist, when you see a coloured fellow littering you dont post on couloured world news complaints about coloured people littering.
i agree littering is wrong dont reflect one persons disgusting behaviour to “frum yidden”
Garbage comes from nature, and is returned to nature, and is part of nature.
Hey; you’re right about the litter. People shouldn’t do it. It isn’t nice. It is a major lack of ??? ??? ?????? and it causes a ????? ?. But don’t blame it on HKB”H.
Great job on the Genesis, btw. It was very well written.
Non-biodegradable garbage definitely is not created by nature, nor is it being “returned” to nature when you litter.
Wrote a whole drosha, looked back at the previous posts and saw Yekke2’s comment. Deleted the drosha.
Humans are perfectly natural. Beavers are natural. A beaver dam is natural because a natural beaver created it. Non-biodegradable garbage is natural because it was created by natural humans. However, it does not “return to nature” when you litter, because it’s going to a place where it never was. (When you put an all-natural monk parakeet in New York you are also not “returning it to nature”.)
I think litter is beautiful.
I’ve gone to places frum Jews have never been before me and there is littering, so no, Jews do not litter any more than others. We’re supposed to litter less, since you know, the whole be a light unto the nations thing.
Litter are adorable.
You’re all dolts. People are also part of nature.
When a beaver eats a cherry and moves the pit somewhere, is that part of nature?
When a human drills for oil and turns it into plastic on the other side of the world and then fills it with transmission fluid in a third part of the world and then chucks it on the side of the road, that is also part of nature.
Even my calling you all dolts is part of nature. A particularly fine part.
If humans are part of nature, nothing can be returned to nature. It never left.
Is the trash espoused in this thread natural too?
What bothers me most is when I see litter in Eretz Yisroel. God gave us the land, but not for throwing out our waste!
It strikes me a chutzpadilk. It’s as if you are invited into somebody’s home to live, and use the space you are given by your host to put your garbage!
We should send all our non-biodegradable garbage into outer space so that it can naturally land on another planet.
But that would upset the people who believe in EveryPlanetIsm
Papa, just because something is part of nature doesn’t mean it’s OK to do it. The Torah and Chazal teach us that
Newbee, sure popa is over the top, but his extreme post is a nice balance to yours.
I obviously disagree.
Let’s start by pointing out, as did crazybrit, that your thread title is offensive.
Do you expect anyone to really disagree with you and think it’s okay to litter? There’s a reason you got so many sarcastic responses. The whole point of this thread was to blast “frum people” for something which although definitely wrong, you are blowing way out of proportion. No one wants to disrespect others or HKB”H, they’re just being careless.
Kol hakavod newbee. You are in no way out of line with any of your comments. In fact this is such an important topic it deserves than coverage than this coffee room! I am new to Brooklyn and I have seen frum Jews throw their garbage out their car window! No one is saying everyone does this and I also believe that these aren’t bad ppl – just ignorant ones who don’t realize that what we do matters – ALWAYS! It’s very scary to think that there may be Yidden that actually feel that this behavior is ok or that that this is bashing Yidden. I suggest that when someone’s just not in the mood to care about these “little” things he should kindly remove his yarmulka (and anything else that may distinguish him as part of HKB”H’s Am kadosh!) since even the smallest candy wrapper is a HUGE chilul Hashem! And if anyone thinks that I’m extreme, please verify it first with a Gadol! (speaking of which I’d love to know if anyone would feel comfortable littering in front of Rav Shteinman shlita or lihavdil on the white house lawn?!?…)
Frum Jews don’t litter.
Someone wearing a yarmulke should take it off before he litters.
The worst offenders are the ones who toss their filthy food wrappers out the car windows. Big Chillel Hashem which
Yom Kippur is not m’chaper, so enjoy the clean car.
CHSV: While I did not see your post till now, I see we travel the same road. But you said it better.
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