Frozen Broccoli and Halacha (insects)

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  • #699972
    arc
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    freezing does to a bug what blending does, namely causes it to fall apart. as with everything it should have a hechsher.

    #699973
    WIY
    Member

    arc

    Who says freezing makes them brittle? I asked a Rav and he said freezing is JUST AS ASSUR AS RAW if it was unchecked!

    #699974
    arc
    Participant

    star k site says frzen is ok but pureed is preferable

    #699975
    mghanooni
    Member

    I think it’s best to buy fresh broccoli and cut off the florets (where the bugs hide). Then wash the stems and branches. Works for asparagus also.

    #699976
    cherrybim
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    And why was my post deleted yesterday?

    #699977
    Dave Hirsch
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    Let me clarify something that some of you got wrong. Freezing or Blending infested produce won’t change the status of its Issur. If something is Muchzak B’Tolaim (such as Broccoli) nothing can be done besides removing all worms. The rule of Batul doesn’t apply once it is Assur (Ein Mevatlim Issur Lechatchila). The only time blending (or freezing according to some, if the insects disintegrate) helps is if it is Muchzak Naki (accepted as clean). Bodek (and Eden as an extra precaution) relies on this leniency to freeze their products after a thorough cleaning using special methods and machinery. They clean the produce which then (according to them) becomes Muchzak Naki and then freeze it. The extra step is necessary to remove all whole insects that might’ve stayed (as a whole insect is a Berye which doesn’t become Botul) even after cleaning. They then rely on Bittul. Rav Vaye maintains that the cleaning method doesn’t change the status from Muchzak B’Tolaim to Muchzak Naki (as it doesn’t remove all insects) therefore it is prohibited.

    #699978

    thank you dave for clarifying that

    #699979
    Dave Hirsch
    Participant

    My pleasure @ Mod. I Daven every day Lilmod Ulelameid… If I get an opportunity to share some of my knowledge I use it.

    #699980
    WIY
    Member

    Dave

    Thanks for all that. Can you tell me your source for that last post?

    #699981
    arc
    Participant

    it’s in ahavas olam.

    oh you meant the other one I heard up until the R vaye part as well.

    #699982
    WIY
    Member

    Arc

    Who are you talking to?

    #699983
    arc
    Participant

    you.

    #699984
    hello99
    Participant

    Dave Hirsch: blending is muttar even if there is a safek or miut hamatzui of bugs and it need NOT be muchzak naki, b/c there is no issur to be mevatel a safek issur l’chatchila. Shach YD 89 and Terumas HaDeshen brought in YD 84. Therefore if veges are grown in a way that makes them less that rov likely to be infested they may be ground.

    #699985
    Ofcourse
    Member

    If most people use Eden and Bodek for frozen brocoli, who in BP (Heiligtown) is buying all the Golden Flow frozen brocoli that is heavily stocked on all the supermarket shelves all over the place?

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