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August 25, 2013 5:17 am at 5:17 am #610446Burnt SteakParticipant
I was just wondering if any other people like metal.
I also was wondering if there are any Jewish Metal bands or even if there are any rock groups. Obviously not taking about groups where singer (rush/ Disturbed) is Jewish.
August 25, 2013 6:51 am at 6:51 am #1023411RabbiYoniMemberNot a metal head, but there used to be a great band called Metalish
August 25, 2013 4:53 pm at 4:53 pm #1023413This name is already takenParticipantI was just wondering if any other people like metal.
I also was wondering if there are any Jewish Metal bands or even if there are any rock groups. Obviously not taking about groups where singer (rush/ Disturbed) is Jewish.
Metal music is just noises and alot of screaming
August 25, 2013 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #1023422assurnetParticipantPantera isn’t Jewish but I’m willing to go out on a limb and assume their agent is
August 25, 2013 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #1023423sharpMemberMetal music is just noises and alot of screaming
I think you’re referring to heavy metal.
August 25, 2013 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #1023424The FrumguyParticipantI have to agree with This name is already taken. I never could stand the noise and incomprehensible screaming. Seems like it’s a cover-up for a lack of real talent. Sorry, Burnt Steak.
August 25, 2013 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #1023425sharpMemberBurnt Steak, I think you are mixing up Hard Rock with metal.
August 25, 2013 8:19 pm at 8:19 pm #1023426zahavasdadParticipantThe lead singer of Disturbed is OTD and a yeshiva boy.
August 25, 2013 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #1023427This name is already takenParticipantSharp my mistake, it’s the same tuneless music without the screaming
August 25, 2013 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #1023428Burnt SteakParticipantsharp
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Burnt Steak, I think you are mixing up Hard Rock with metal.
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I also enjoy that but I don’t mind the songs that have screaming in them, I focus more on the musical side.
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The lead singer of Disturbed is OTD and a yeshiva boy.
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I know that and I know people who went to school with him. I heard many stories about his high school days and I can sort of understand why he makes that type of music.
Thanks for all the feedback, wish there was more of a Jewish market for rock of all types.
August 25, 2013 9:45 pm at 9:45 pm #1023429sharpMemberI also agree with this name is already taken. These genres are by definition not Jewish so I seriously doubt you’d find a Jewish group. I don’t mean to lecture you but I’m a bit surprised that you’re actually a metal/ hard rock/ punk rock fan. (Not to be confused with rock). I’m surprised because you seem to be more sensible than that. I personally think these genres are for the musically illiterate. That’s just my opinion, I don’t mean to judge.
August 25, 2013 10:56 pm at 10:56 pm #1023430LevAryehMemberI like Queen (a lot), but I don’t think that makes me a metalhead. I do like iron and zinc, but I prefer gold because I’m rich and famous.
August 25, 2013 11:44 pm at 11:44 pm #1023431WIYMemberMy Rebbi used to say I have an eizeneh kup.
August 26, 2013 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm #1023432DaMosheParticipantBurnt Steak: I also know people who went to school with David Draiman, but I don’t know much about his teen years other than what is written on Wikipedia.
It should be noted that he is a strong supporter of Israel, and speaks out strongly against all anti-semitism. There are some celebrities who think it’s “cool” to collect Nazi memorabilia, and he has bashed them for it. The Jewish spark is alive and well in him! Let’s hope it grows further!
August 26, 2013 12:45 pm at 12:45 pm #1023433crisisoftheweekMember“these genres are for the musically illiterate”
How incredibly bigoted of you! Most lead guitarists in metal bands could teach college level classes in music theory, some on the level of Stratavarius.
In order to play with that kind of speed and precision, you need to understand how and why certain paterns and teqhniques are applicable. To call them genres for the musically illiterate is just as wrong as me saying that every Jewish musician with songs on mostlymusic is a hack that just stole lyrics from Dovid HaMelech.
August 26, 2013 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm #1023434YW fanParticipantThere is a new group called Buba Myses and they are awesome! I think they are Metal but it could be they are rock. (I dont know the difference) Whatever they are they are AWESOME!
August 26, 2013 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #1023435MCPMemberEulogist is a heavy metal band made of mostly frum guys. I know one of them. Can’t stand metal either, but their stuff sounds decent.
August 26, 2013 4:46 pm at 4:46 pm #1023436This name is already takenParticipantCrisis- the ones playing it aren’t muscly illiterate, it’s the people listening to it
August 26, 2013 4:55 pm at 4:55 pm #1023437sharpMemberThis name is already taken: EXACTLY what I meant originally.
August 26, 2013 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm #1023438sharpMemberCrisis, when metal grew in the 1970’s, they were very successful. True, but there was an element of hilarity that was associated with that success. The bands back then were known for their musical illiteracy and mind-blowing stupidity.
A turning point in the 1980’s occurred when bands switched to more traditional sing along type of songs.
I didn’t imply that these people don’t know how to play, they do. But because they were known to be that way in their early days, this reputation kinda stuck to them. Albeit often undeserved.
And to be an all out “metal head” is really sad. The metal ideology and culture is so morbid, some (or most) of these players / singers are associated with drug overdose and psychological and personal instability. It’s just so sad. More so with heavy metal than with any other genre.
But of course, these are two separate arguments.
August 26, 2013 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm #1023439crisisoftheweekMember“And to be an all out “metal head” is really sad. The metal ideology and culture is so morbid, some (or most) of these players / singers are associated with drug overdose and psychological and personal instability.”
Let’s not throw stones when we ourselves live in a glass house. Talk to a pharmacist in a “heimshe” neighboorhood and see how many anti depressant perscriptions are being filled.
August 26, 2013 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #1023440sharpMemberLet’s not throw stones when we ourselves live in a glass house. Talk to a pharmacist in a “heimshe” neighboorhood and see how many anti depressant perscriptions are being filled.
Crisis, I wasn’t throwing stones. I think you’re taking my post out of context, like you did with my previous post. How are you comparing taking anti-depressants to the heavy metal culture and ideology? Please.
To be an all out metal head is to be totally preoccupied with heavy metal music. I think it’s sad. You don’t have to agree with me. It’s sad because of what the ideology stands for.
Yes, they have talent, and yes, I’m sure there are plenty people on anti-depressants. And, so? It’s still sad.
August 26, 2013 9:40 pm at 9:40 pm #1023441sharpMemberOh, I see now. I left out the word excessive. They’re associated with EXCESSIVE drug overdose and instability. More so than others.
August 27, 2013 4:31 am at 4:31 am #1023442Burnt SteakParticipantsharp — I don’t mean to lecture you but I’m a bit surprised that you’re actually a metal/ hard rock/ punk rock fan. (Not to be confused with rock). I’m surprised because you seem to be more sensible than that. I personally think these genres are for the musically illiterate. That’s just my opinion, I don’t mean to judge.
I personally do not like Jewish music. I find it repetitive and bland. I can see why people like the more classical Jewish music, but I find I like things with more of a beat and less predictable musically.
crisisoftheweek — Most lead guitarists in metal bands could teach college level classes in music theory, some on the level of Stratavarius.
I fully agree with you on that. I have friends who play guitar (and one who is a music theory major) and most of them can not play at the level of most lead guitar player in rock groups.
This name is already taken
I have 2 subtitles both of which aren’t listed.
Crisis- the ones playing it aren’t muscly illiterate, it’s the people listening to it
I’m going to have to disagree with you on that. I’m not musically illiterate and many of my friends who listen to rock/metal also are not musically illiterate. It’s all about your tastes.
August 27, 2013 10:25 am at 10:25 am #1023443just my hapenceParticipantcrisisoftheweek –
Most lead guitarists in metal bands could teach college level classes in music theory, some on the level of Stratavarius.
Who was “Stratavarius”? I think you might be referring to Stradivarius but there was more than one of them (it was a family business) and they made violins, they were not musicians nor music theorists.
August 27, 2013 12:24 pm at 12:24 pm #1023444sharpMemberI personally do not like Jewish music. I find it repetitive and bland. I can see why people like the more classical Jewish music, but I find I like things with more of a beat and less predictable musically.
Burnt Steak, I wasn’t suggesting that you listen to Jewish music. You were asking whether there are Jewish metal bands to which my response was an explanation as to why you will not find any Jewish bands. I think what you actually meant was “frum” bands. So the reason you will not find any frum Metallica bands is because of the heavy metal culture, which goes against frum ideology.
I was also surprised that you are so into it to the extent that you wrote metal head. I’m not judging and I’m not suggesting jewish music. There are many options between Jewish music and Metallica.
August 27, 2013 12:55 pm at 12:55 pm #1023445sharpMemberI’m going to have to disagree with you on that. I’m not musically illiterate and many of my friends who listen to rock/metal also are not musically illiterate. It’s all about your tastes.
Burnt Steak, you can’t compare rock to metal. It’s just not the same. (Unless you meant hard rock, then maybe that’s similar.)
August 27, 2013 2:01 pm at 2:01 pm #1023446DaMosheParticipantAn interesting note about Metallica is that in their early days, they were actually not into any really bad stuff. Sure, they drank lots of beer, but that was about it.
Their lead singer started drinking more heavily shortly after their bass player died in an accident, when their tour bus flipped over from a patch of ice. When that happened, their music changed drastically, and many fans complained about the new style.
After years of heavy drinking and substance abuse, he went to a rehab facility and turned his life around, and they’re making better music than they have in years. Not everyone who likes metal follows that “lifestyle”.
I’d love to have some Jewish metal to listen to – and not that trash Metallish, which was just Jewish songs played with electric guitar. I mean real thrash metal, with Jewish lyrics.
August 27, 2013 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #1023447metrodriverMemberCrisisoftheweek: (@sharp). The substance of what you’re saying is great. But your Spelling is horrible. If I may be so blunt. Please use “Spell Check”, or, better yet. Take a remedial course in English Spelling. Stat.
August 27, 2013 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #1023449shkoiach1ParticipantI’m not such a fan of metal, but I do appreciate good hard rock. Piamenta is about as heavy as it gets in authentic Jewish music. Their older stuff (like the album ‘Mitzvah’) is a great example of some good Jewish hard rock with a 70’s flavor. Check them out if you are not familiar with them. The first song on that album (mitzvah) is a fantastic song.
August 28, 2013 3:50 am at 3:50 am #1023450Burnt SteakParticipantshkoiach1 thanks. I’m going to check them out.
August 28, 2013 8:11 am at 8:11 am #1023451shkoiach1ParticipantIf you google piamemta mitzvah, it’s the first thing that comes up (on youtube)
August 28, 2013 3:14 pm at 3:14 pm #1023453Yserbius123ParticipantYou. Just. Called. RUSH. A. Metal. Band.
August 29, 2013 12:49 am at 12:49 am #1023454Burnt SteakParticipantYserbius123
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You. Just. Called. RUSH. A. Metal. Band.
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I also was wondering if there are any Jewish Metal bands or even if there are any _^_rock groups_^_. <—- (here) Obviously not taking about groups where singer (rush/ Disturbed) is Jewish.
June 29, 2014 3:47 am at 3:47 am #1023455samoclesMemberhey im a jewish metalhead
i would love to start a jewish metal band
im actually looking for a drummer so if you know anyone who plays metal drums that would help
June 29, 2014 3:47 am at 3:47 am #1023456samoclesMemberthere was this one band called david lazzar he was pretty metal
im not a huge fan of his stuff though
June 29, 2014 3:59 am at 3:59 am #1023457samoclesMemberoh how i could i forget check out a band called “Gevolt”
they have all their stuff on youtube definitely worth a veiw
June 30, 2014 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #1023458Bookworm120ParticipantIn my opinion, what heavy metal (and its various subgenres) has become is simply awful noise. There’s the occasional artist who actually knows how to make discordant sounds and make it sound musical, but nowadays, most don’t.
I think the OP was simply saying, Rush is an example of a secular band where a member is Jewish; he wasn’t suggesting that Rush is categorized under the metal genre. Rush is and does rock. 🙂
July 15, 2014 2:29 am at 2:29 am #1023459RandomexMemberHey, Burnt Steak (if you’re still around), I like metal.
Samocles beat me to the David Lazzar mention. I haven’t heard his stuff.
Metalish is pretty much what would happen if you hired a 70s metal band to play your bar mitzvah, equipping them with sheet music (it’s all instrumental).
Gevolt are not frum Jews or anything close to it.
You can check out the “Yiddish-speaking Vikings” article linked to on the Wikipedia page for their album “AlefBase” to find a number of similar acts, as well as a blog dedicated to Jews and metal.
Black Shabbis (an album) by Jamie Saft is in the same category.
I’d go into some kind of discourse here about metal for the sake of those who aren’t familiar with it but I doubt anyone actually cares. Let ’em think we love “noise and screaming”.
In my opinion, what heavy metal (and its various subgenres) has become is simply awful noise.
Yes, extreme forms of metal may have become dominant in the general metalhead culture, but metal’s 40+year history is still available for the listening. And now the new thing seems to be progressive metal, and there’s a long-standing occult+/retro-metal
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