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August 15, 2014 3:22 am at 3:22 am #1045931Patur Aval AssurParticipant
Mishnas R’ Aharon Ma’amarim Sha’ar Sheini Siman 10:
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August 18, 2014 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #1045932Patur Aval AssurParticipantRambam (letter to R’ Yosef):
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August 18, 2014 11:01 pm at 11:01 pm #1045933Patur Aval AssurParticipantR’ Dovid Friedman Eimek Haberacha ‘???? ?:
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August 19, 2014 2:50 am at 2:50 am #1045934Patur Aval AssurParticipantR’ Elchanan Wasserman
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Both quotes are brought in Kovetz Ma’amarim V’Igros
August 20, 2014 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #1045935Patur Aval AssurParticipantUpdated list:
Berachos 8a with Maharsha
Berachos 63b with Rashi
Shabbos 63a with Rashi
Eruvin 48a with Rashi
Kesubos 15a
Sanhedrin 42a with Rashi
Avodah Zara 19a with Rashi
Avodah Zara 19a with Rashi (there are two different gemaras on 19a which I quoted)
Horayos 14a
Shemos Rabba Ki Sisa Parsha 41
Medrash Mishlei 10
Rambam Letter
Piskei Riaz Kiddushin Perek 1 7:8
Orchos Tzadikim Shaar Hatorah
Maharal Tiferes Yisroel Perek 56
Maharal Nesivos Olam Nesiv Hatorah Perek 5
Maharal Chiddushei Aggados Sanhedrin
Maharal Gur Aryeh Parshas Vaeschanan
Maharsha Bava Metzia 85a
Shelah Maseches Shavuos 22, 25-35
Vavei Ha’amudim 5:14
Tzava’ah of the Shelah’s son R’ Sheftel Ose 26
Maadnei Yom Tov Hakdama
Kli Yakar Amudei Shesh Amud Hatorah
Chavos Yair siman 124
Yaavetz
Sifsei Yeshanim
Binyan Ariel Parshas Haazinu
Chayei Adam Hakdama Acharona
Pri Megadim
Panim Yafos Genesis 22:1
Even Shlaima 8:2
He’aros ??
Even Shlaima 8:7
Shulchan Aruch Harav Hilchos Talmud Torah 2:1
Teshuva Me’ahava Pesicha
Toldos Adam Perek 3
Derashos Chasam Sofer
Pele Yoetz Asupa
Pele Yoetz Girsa
Pele Yoetz Yesod
Ohr Yisrael Iggeres 27
Dor Revii Hakdama
Mishnah Berurah Hakdama
Chofetz Chaim Likutei Amarim perek 4
Chofetz Chaim Likutei Amarim perek 5
Lev Aryeh hakdama
Hachana Deraba Ose 6
Yalkut Hagershoni Chagiga 5a
Eimek Haberacha Ma’amar 4
Shu”t Beis Ridvaz Hakdama (and tzava’a)
Seridei Eish letter
Bihyos Haboker Ose 42
Shu”t Mishneh Halachos 8:247
Shevet Halevi 2:57
R’ Eliyahu Feinstein
R’ Elchanan Wasserman
R’ Baruch Ber Leibowitz
R’ Yaakov Kamenetsky
R’ Moshe Feinstein
Mishnas R’ Aharon Ma’amarim Sha’ar Sheini Siman 10
R’ Elazar Menacham Man Shach
R’ Berel Soloveitchik
R’ Moshe Chevroni
R’Aharon Yehuda Leib Shteinman
R’ Michel Yehuda Lefkowitz
R’ Yosef Shalom Elyashiv
August 24, 2014 10:14 pm at 10:14 pm #1045936Patur Aval AssurParticipantR’ Moshe Shmuel Shapiro:
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August 24, 2014 10:39 pm at 10:39 pm #1045937Patur Aval AssurParticipant????? ??? ?????? ????”? ??? ?? ??? ???? ????? ????? ??”? ??”? ?? ?????? ???? ??????? ?? ????? ?? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ????”? ????? ?? ?? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ??? ????”? ??? ???? ??”? ?? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ????? ?? ???? ????? ????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?? ?? ????? ????? ??? ??? ????? ????? ??? ????? ???
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August 25, 2014 3:48 am at 3:48 am #1045938Patur Aval AssurParticipant?? ?? ??????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ??????? ????”? ?? ??? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ??? ???’ ???’ ???? ?????
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August 25, 2014 1:34 pm at 1:34 pm #1045939Patur Aval AssurParticipant???? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ??’ ??”? ????’ ???? ????? ????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ?”? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ??????? ??? ?’ ?????? ????? ??? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ???”? ??”? ?????? ???? ????????? ??”? ?? ?? ???? ????? ????? ???
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August 25, 2014 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #1045940Patur Aval AssurParticipant??? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? ??????? ????”? ??? ???”? ????? ???”? ????? ???? ?????? ??? ????? ????’ ???? ?????
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August 26, 2014 12:01 am at 12:01 am #1045941Patur Aval AssurParticipant???? ?????? ?????? ????? ????? ??????? ???? ????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ?’ ????? ??? ??? ???? ????? ????? ???? ??”?
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August 27, 2014 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #1045942Patur Aval AssurParticipantExcerpt from the Maharal in Derech Chaim Avos Perek Shishi Ose 7:
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August 27, 2014 10:49 pm at 10:49 pm #1045943Patur Aval AssurParticipant??? ?? ??? ??? ?”? ?? ??? ?????? ?????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ??? ???? ?? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? ????? ??? ???? ?”? ????? ???? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ?? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ????? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ?? ?? ??? ???? ???? ????? ??? ?? ??????? ??? ???????? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ?? ?? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??? ????? ?? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?? ???? ???? ?? ?????? ????? ??? ???
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August 28, 2014 2:25 am at 2:25 am #1045945Patur Aval AssurParticipantThanks.
August 28, 2014 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #1045946Patur Aval AssurParticipantcontinuation…
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August 28, 2014 11:49 pm at 11:49 pm #1045947Patur Aval AssurParticipant???? ???????? ?????? ??? ??? ?’ ??? ?? ???? ???? ???? ????? ???????? ??? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? ??? ?? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?????
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August 28, 2014 11:57 pm at 11:57 pm #1045948Patur Aval AssurParticipant?????? ???? ??? ??? ????? ?? ???? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ????? ???????
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August 29, 2014 12:08 am at 12:08 am #1045949Patur Aval AssurParticipantcontinuation…
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Thus ends the selected excerpt. The entire piece can be viewed at http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14193&st=&pgnum=301
August 29, 2014 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #1045950Patur Aval AssurParticipantMishnas Chachamim Siman 1:
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August 31, 2014 3:48 am at 3:48 am #1045951Patur Aval AssurParticipantHamaor Perek 11:
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September 2, 2014 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #1045952Patur Aval AssurParticipantThe Seraph of Brisk Reb Yehoshua Leib Diskin p.68-69:
Reb Yehoshua Leib gave a daily shiur in the yeshivah, which was unique in it’s breadth and depth. He also demanded that his students excel in bekius, and discipline themselves to continuosly persevere in their studies. Reb Yehoshua Leib explained why he demanded his students excel in bekius rather than in iyun, which was the chosen style of his shiurim, as follows: True Torah study consists of a combination of bekius and sevarah yesharah. Sevarah Yesharah does not mean superficial reasoning. Rather, it’a a fundamental and penetrating investigation of the sugya combined with taking into account all of the logical possibilities. My shiur is built upon the foundations of iyun, and if one acquires the necessary bekius, he can succeed in truly understanding what he studies.
September 3, 2014 2:11 am at 2:11 am #1045953Patur Aval AssurParticipantUpdated list:
Berachos 8a with Maharsha
Berachos 63b with Rashi
Shabbos 63a with Rashi
Eruvin 48a with Rashi
Kesubos 15a
Sanhedrin 42a with Rashi
Avodah Zara 19a with Rashi
Avodah Zara 19a with Rashi (there are two different gemaras on 19a which I quoted)
Horayos 14a
Shemos Rabba Ki Sisa Parsha 41
Medrash Mishlei 10
Rambam Letter
Piskei Riaz Kiddushin Perek 1 7:8
Orchos Tzadikim Shaar Hatorah
Maharal Tiferes Yisroel Perek 56
Maharal Nesivos Olam Nesiv Hatorah Perek 5
Maharal Chiddushei Aggados Sanhedrin
Maharal Gur Aryeh Parshas Vaeschanan
Maharal Derech Chaim Avos Perek Shishi Ose 7
Maharsha Bava Metzia 85a
Shelah Maseches Shavuos 22, 25-35
Vavei Ha’amudim 5:14
Tzava’ah of the Shelah’s son R’ Sheftel Ose 26
Maadnei Yom Tov Hakdama
Kli Yakar Amudei Shesh Amud Hatorah
Chavos Yair siman 124
Mishnas Chachamim
Yaavetz
Sifsei Yeshanim
Binyan Ariel Parshas Haazinu
Chayei Adam Hakdama Acharona
Pri Megadim
Panim Yafos Genesis 22:1
Even Shlaima 8:2
He’aros ??
Even Shlaima 8:7
Shulchan Aruch Harav Hilchos Talmud Torah 2:1
Teshuva Me’ahava Pesicha
Toldos Adam Perek 3
Derashos Chasam Sofer
Pele Yoetz Asupa
Pele Yoetz Girsa
Pele Yoetz Yesod
Ohr Yisrael Iggeres 27
Hamaor
Dor Revii Hakdama
Mishnah Berurah Hakdama
Chofetz Chaim Likutei Amarim perek 4
Chofetz Chaim Likutei Amarim perek 5
Lev Aryeh hakdama
Hachana Deraba Ose 6
Yalkut Hagershoni Chagiga 5a
Eimek Haberacha Ma’amar 4
Shu”t Beis Ridvaz Hakdama (and tzava’a)
Seridei Eish letter
Bihyos Haboker Ose 42
Shu”t Mishneh Halachos 8:247
Shevet Halevi 2:57
R’ Eliyahu Feinstein
R’ Yehoshua Leib Diskin
R’ Elchanan Wasserman
R’ Baruch Ber Leibowitz
R’ Yaakov Kamenetsky
R’ Moshe Feinstein
Mishnas R’ Aharon Ma’amarim Sha’ar Sheini Siman 10
R’ Elazar Menacham Man Shach
R’ Berel Soloveitchik
R’ Moshe Chevroni
R’Aharon Yehuda Leib Shteinman
R’ Michel Yehuda Lefkowitz
R’ Yosef Shalom Elyashiv
R’ Moshe Shmuel Shapiro
September 3, 2014 8:24 am at 8:24 am #1045955secretagentyidMemberNot sure about PF, but I for one am loving this 😉
September 3, 2014 8:28 am at 8:28 am #1045956secretagentyidMemberPlease, do go on. Ive been going around showing these maare makomos to everyone who tokd me that i was wrong. Geshmak
September 3, 2014 12:44 pm at 12:44 pm #1045957Patur Aval AssurParticipantThank you secretagentyid. Here I was thinking that I have been talking to myself all this time. It’s nice to know that at least one person is actually reading it.
September 3, 2014 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #1045958secretagentyidMemberThank you. BTW, Rabbi Moshe Shmuel Shapiro whom you quoted above, is that the noted mekubal?
September 3, 2014 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm #1045959Patur Aval AssurParticipantNo. I’m talking about the Rosh Yeshiva of Be’er Yaakov who died in 2006.
September 3, 2014 8:40 pm at 8:40 pm #1045960secretagentyidMemberAh. Thanks
September 4, 2014 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #1045961Patur Aval AssurParticipantChasam Sofer Chullin 7a:
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September 5, 2014 1:40 am at 1:40 am #1045962Patur Aval AssurParticipant‘???? ???? ???? ?:
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September 5, 2014 3:21 am at 3:21 am #1045963Patur Aval AssurParticipant???? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???’ ??? ????? ?? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ????? ?? ????? ????? ?? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ?? ??? ??? ???????? ???’ ?? ???? ???? ??? ????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?? ?? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ?? ??? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ??? ?? ??? ???? ??? ??? ????? ??”? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ????? ??? ??? ?? ??? ?????? ??????? ??? ????? ???? ??? ?? ???? ????? ??? ????? ????? ?? ??????? ????? ????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ????? ??? ???? ???? ??? ???? ????? ??? ???”? ????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ???? ????? ???? ??? ??? ?????? ?????? ??? ????? ?”? ????? ??????? ?? ????? ???? ???’ ??”? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ???
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September 5, 2014 3:43 am at 3:43 am #1045964☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThis latest mareh makom isn’t against iyun, it’s against fake iyun to show off.
September 5, 2014 3:54 am at 3:54 am #1045965Patur Aval AssurParticipantNot every one of my sources is going to be against every aspect of iyun. That being said, certain problematic aspects of “fake iyun” do exist in iyun as is practiced today. Also, this quote is not done yet. But I’m glad to see you’re reading this.
September 5, 2014 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #1045966Patur Aval AssurParticipantcontinuation…
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September 8, 2014 3:05 am at 3:05 am #1045967Patur Aval AssurParticipantcontinuation…
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September 8, 2014 5:05 pm at 5:05 pm #1045968Patur Aval AssurParticipantcontinuation…
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September 9, 2014 3:41 am at 3:41 am #1045969Patur Aval AssurParticipantcontinuation…
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September 9, 2014 3:56 am at 3:56 am #1045970☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantAdapted from the Rechnitz shidduch thread, so that it can go into the report card thread:
PAA, you seem to spend a lot of time delving deeply into the sugya of why we shouldn’t spend a lot of time delving deeply into one sugya.
September 9, 2014 1:53 pm at 1:53 pm #1045971Patur Aval AssurParticipantcontinuation…
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September 9, 2014 5:08 pm at 5:08 pm #1045972Patur Aval AssurParticipant???? ??? siman 8 Ose 5:
(He is discussing “Yeshivos in America and other countries” [i.e. not Israel])
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??????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ????? ???”? ??? ???? ???? ??? ???? ??????? ?? ???? ??????? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ???? ?”? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ?????? ?”? ????? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ?????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ????????? ??????? ?? ????? ?? ???? ??? ????? ??? ?????? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ????? ?????
September 9, 2014 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #1045973Patur Aval AssurParticipant???? ??? siman 8 Ose 6:
???? ???? ?????? ?????? ????”? ???????? ?????? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ?”? ????? ???? ????? ????? ????? ??? ????????’ ????? ??????? ??????? ????? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ??????? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ????? ??? ???? ?? ?? ????? ????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ????? ????’ ?? ???? ???? ???”? ?? ????? ???? ????? ???? ??????? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?? ??? ???? ?? ???? ????? ?? ??????? ?? ??? ???? ?? ??? ????? ????? ??????? ?? ???? ????? ?? ?? ????? ???? ???????? ????? ????? ??????
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?????’ ?????? ???? ????”? ?????? ??”? ??????’ ?? ?????? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ??? ?? ??”? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ??? ??????’ ??”? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ???
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September 9, 2014 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #1045974Patur Aval AssurParticipantR’ Moshe Tzuriel, ?????? ????? ????? Sha’ar 7 Ose 2:
???? ???? ????? ?????? ???”? ??????? ?? ?????? ?”? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ??? ??????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? ????? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ??????? ??? ???? ???????? ????? ??????? ?????? ?????? ??? ?????? ?? ?????? ?? ?????? ???? ???? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?? ??????? ????? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ?? ?????? ??? ?????? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ??? ????? ??? ??? ??? ?????? ???? ??? ?’ [???????? ??? ?????] ???”? ????? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ?? ??? ????? ???? ??? ?? ????”? ??? ????????
September 10, 2014 12:34 am at 12:34 am #1045975Patur Aval AssurParticipantShu”t Rivash Siman 271:
???? ????? ????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ???? ????? ????? ??? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ??????? ????? ????? ?? ???? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??”? ??????? ???? ????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???? ????? ????? ?? ?? ???? ???? ????? ??? ???? ????? ?? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?? ??? ???? ????? ?? ???? ??? ???? ??? ????? ?? ???? ??? ?”? ????? ?”? ???? ???? ??”? ??”? ????? ??? ???????? ??”? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ????
September 10, 2014 1:58 am at 1:58 am #1045976Patur Aval AssurParticipantUpdated list:
Berachos 8a with Maharsha
Berachos 63b with Rashi
Shabbos 63a with Rashi
Eruvin 48a with Rashi
Kesubos 15a
Sanhedrin 42a with Rashi
Avodah Zara 19a with Rashi
Avodah Zara 19a with Rashi (there are two different gemaras on 19a which I quoted)
Horayos 14a
Shemos Rabba Ki Sisa Parsha 41
Medrash Mishlei 10
Rambam Letter
Piskei Riaz Kiddushin Perek 1 7:8
Shu”t Rivash Siman 271
Orchos Tzadikim Shaar Hatorah
Maharal Tiferes Yisroel Perek 56
Maharal Nesivos Olam Nesiv Hatorah Perek 5
Maharal Chiddushei Aggados Sanhedrin
Maharal Gur Aryeh Parshas Vaeschanan
Maharal Derech Chaim Avos Perek Shishi Ose 7
Maharsha Bava Metzia 85a
Shelah Maseches Shavuos 22, 25-35
Vavei Ha’amudim 5:14
Tzava’ah of the Shelah’s son R’ Sheftel Ose 26
Maadnei Yom Tov Hakdama
Kli Yakar Amudei Shesh Amud Hatorah
Chavos Yair siman 124
Mishnas Chachamim
Yaavetz
Sifsei Yeshanim
Binyan Ariel Parshas Haazinu
Chayei Adam Hakdama Acharona
Pri Megadim
Panim Yafos Genesis 22:1
Even Shlaima 8:2
He’aros ??
Even Shlaima 8:7
Darchei Noam
Shulchan Aruch Harav Hilchos Talmud Torah 2:1
Teshuva Me’ahava Pesicha
Toldos Adam Perek 3
Chasam Sofer Chullin 7a
Derashos Chasam Sofer
Pele Yoetz Asupa
Pele Yoetz Girsa
Pele Yoetz Yesod
Ohr Yisrael Iggeres 27
Hamaor
Dor Revii Hakdama
Mishnah Berurah Hakdama
Chofetz Chaim Likutei Amarim perek 4
Chofetz Chaim Likutei Amarim perek 5
Lev Aryeh hakdama
Hachana Deraba Ose 6
Yalkut Hagershoni Chagiga 5a
Eimek Haberacha Ma’amar 4
Shu”t Beis Ridvaz Hakdama (and tzava’a)
Seridei Eish letter
Bihyos Haboker Ose 42
Shu”t Mishneh Halachos 8:247
Shevet Halevi 2:57
R’ Eliyahu Feinstein
R’ Yehoshua Leib Diskin
R’ Elchanan Wasserman
R’ Baruch Ber Leibowitz
R’ Yaakov Kamenetsky
R’ Moshe Feinstein
Mishnas R’ Aharon Ma’amarim Sha’ar Sheini Siman 10
Midor Dor Siman 8 Ose 6
R’ Elazar Menacham Man Shach
R’ Berel Soloveitchik
R’ Moshe Chevroni
R’Aharon Yehuda Leib Shteinman
R’ Michel Yehuda Lefkowitz
R’ Yosef Shalom Elyashiv
R’ Moshe Shmuel Shapiro
R’ Moshe Tzuriel
September 10, 2014 3:09 am at 3:09 am #1045977Patur Aval AssurParticipantShu”t Maharik Siman 169:
?? ????? ???? ?? ??? ?? ???? ???’ ??’ ????? ?????? ???? ??????’ ????? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ????’ ???? ????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ????’ ???? ???? ???’ ????’ ???? ???? ?? ??? ????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ?? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ??? ???? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ?????? ??”? ?? ??????? ??? ????? ???? ????? ????? ????’ ??”? ???? ???? ??????? ????? ??? ???? ??????
(Not necessarily the strongest raya about derech halimud in general because he is talking about ???? ??????.)
September 14, 2014 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #1045978Patur Aval AssurParticipant(???? ??????? (????:
?????? ???????? ???? ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ?? ????? ???? ???????? ???? ??????? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?? ??? ????? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ??? ???? ???? ??? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ??”? ???? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ??? ????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ????? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ??”? ????? ?????? ??”? ????? ?????? ???? ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ??? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ??”? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ????? ???? ??? ???? ???”? ???? ??”?
September 14, 2014 10:09 pm at 10:09 pm #1045979Patur Aval AssurParticipantAliyos Eliyahu Ose 77:
?????? ????? ????? ?”? ????”? ???????? ?”? ???? ????”? ????????? ????? ???”? ?”? ??? ??? ????? ?”? ??????? ????? ???? ?’ ????? ?????? ?????? ?’ ????? ?”? ??? ??? ???? ???????? ??????? ??? ?? ????? ???? ????? ?”? ??”? ???”? ??? ?? ???? ????? ???? ???? ??”? ???? ???? ????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ??’ ??”? ??? ???”? ???? ?? ?? ???? ????? ?? ?????? ???? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ????? ????”? ????? ??? ???? ???? ??????? ??? ?? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ??? ???? ????? ?”? ?? ????? ??????? ????”? ??”? ???????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ???? ??? ???? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ????? ????? ????? ????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??????? ???????? ??????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ??????? ???????? ?”? ??? ???????? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ?”? ???????? ?”? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ??? ???????? ?”? ??? ???? ??????? ??? ???? ??????? ??? ??”? ???”? ?”? ?? ???? ???????? ?”? ?????? ??? ???????? ??? ???? ????? ????? ?????
September 15, 2014 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #1045980Patur Aval AssurParticipantR’ Ovadia Yosef, Shu”t Yabia Omer Hakdama Ose 6:
?????? ?? ????? ?? ????? ?? ???? ????? ??? ????? ????? ????? ??????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ??????? (??? ????? ???????? ???? ?? ??? ???? ????”? ?? ???????? ??????? ??????? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ???? ??? ?????) ?????? ?????? ?????? ???? ?? ??? ???????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ????? ???? ????? ??????? ???? ??????? ??? ?? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ?? ?????? ???????? ??? ?????? ????? ????? ?????? ?? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ????? ?????? ?? ?? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ?? ?????????? ???????? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? ????????? ???? ??? ??????? ?? ?? ???? ??????? ??? ?????? ???? ??? ?? ???? ?????? ???? ?????? ?????? ??? ???? ??????? ???? ??? ????? ??? ??? ?? ???? ????? ?? ?? ??????? ????? ??? ??? ??? ????? ???? ??????? ???????
September 18, 2014 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #1045981Patur Aval AssurParticipantShu”t Yabia Omer Hakdama Ose 7:
????? ??? ????”? ?? ??? ??? ??? ???? ???”? ??? ????? ????? ???? ????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ???? ????? ???? ??? ??? ??????? ?????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???”? ?????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ??”? ????? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ??? ?’ ????? ??’ ???? ?? ?????? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????? ?? ???? ?? ???????? ??????? ??? ??????? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ????
September 19, 2014 3:57 am at 3:57 am #1045982Patur Aval AssurParticipantShu”t Yabia Omer Hakdama Ose 9:
???? ????? ??? ?????? ?????? ?????? ??? ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ???”? ??”? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ??? ??????? ????? ?? ???? ??? ??? ???? ????? ????? ?????? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ??????? ????? ??? ??? ??????? ???? ?”? ??????? ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ??? ??? ????? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ??? ????? ??????? ??????? ???? ??? ??? ??? ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ?????? ??? ??????? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ??????? ????? ????? ?????? ???? ??????? ?? ?????? ??????? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ????? ????? ???? ????? ???
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