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July 26, 2012 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #604287TheGoqParticipant
When u grew up how big was your family?
I have EDITED siblings.
July 26, 2012 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #888737🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantWe had EDITED and that was like a million back then.
July 26, 2012 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #888738takahmamashParticipantI have EDITED
July 26, 2012 8:02 pm at 8:02 pm #888739working harderMemberEDITED Siblings. EDITED boys EDITED girls
July 26, 2012 9:03 pm at 9:03 pm #888740TheGoqParticipantI know Syag nowadays if u have less than 8 you are not normal, the reason i bring this up is the economics of having so many children generation after generation is just not sustainable to most and i fear it will cause many mosdos to reach financial ruin because no one will be able to pay tuition.
Where is it written you have to have a humungous family, of course we rely on our father in heaven but to keep having umpteen kids which one cannot afford nor will be able to support does not make a whole heck of a lot of sense. I’m sure this is not a popular frame of mind but it doesn’t seem right to create a mountain of debt so we can have a huge family.
I’m sure my parents would have liked to have had more children but
they just couldn’t afford it and coming from the generation that survived churban europe they didnt have wealthy parents or in laws to rely on, it comes down to personal responsibility if you have $5 to your name you go to a diner for a cup of soup you do not go to the waldorf astoria and order a chateuabriand and think someone somewhere will pay for it. end rant.
July 26, 2012 9:51 pm at 9:51 pm #888741ImaofthreeParticipantEDITED siblings, EDITED brothers, EDITED sisters. I don’t know how my mother did it.
July 26, 2012 10:07 pm at 10:07 pm #888742CRuzerParticipantThe Gog, I believe the m’kor (valid or not) is from P’ru Ur’vu.
I do agree with you, though. And now the large family is supposed to be a big factor in kiruv. Judaism is wonderful! Such large beautiful families! What does this have to do with Judaism? It’s just a coincidence that religious families are large. Or maybe it is a good m’kor and this is Hashem’s will?
July 26, 2012 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm #888743seedysParticipantI have EDITED siblings, Boruch Hashem.
July 26, 2012 10:23 pm at 10:23 pm #888744YehudahTzviParticipantOne older sister (but we were not frum).
July 26, 2012 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #888745Ben LeviParticipantMy father was one of EDITED siblings and his parents literally did not have food to eat, my father grew up with a level of poverty that his sister once told me “you cannot understand”.
His father was the youngest of a family that had a number of children that was closer to twenty then 10 and that was in Europe.
Unfortunately the mindset that you espouse is one that is a product of “Kochi Voitzem Yudi”.
The facts are that there is an inyan of “Berev al tainach yudecha” one must always endeavor to have children and more children.
As for mosdos going bankrupt.
The Gemaro tells us that schar talmud Torah is not part of the cheshbon, its on Hashem. (Mesechta Beitzah)
Either we trust Chazal or we do not.
Furthermore I personally spoke at length with a prominent Rov who discused these issues on a practical level with Rav Moshe zt’l and Rav Yackov zt”l. He told me very clearly that he had never ever heard of a heter for not having children becuase of financial issues.
He told me he guesses he is “old school” but the generations after the War understood that we have to do ours and Hashem will do his. He related to me that a prominent RY (who escaped the full brunt of the war in Shanghai) who was extremley poor and yet had a number of children in succession reacted to the questions of certain more modern people by exclaimg in shiur once “We live in a crazy world, each child is a world unto itself”. (This Rov had been in the shiur at the time)
The position that you are espousing is hopefully unpopular as it is in direct opposition to the “Ruach HaTorah”
July 27, 2012 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #888746SayIDidIt™ParticipantWhat in the EDITED world happened to this tread??!!
SiDi™
July 27, 2012 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #888747🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantDear Mod with a sense of humor,
ROTFL
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July 27, 2012 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #888748MammeleParticipantI read that we receive bracha in the merit of our children. And if we have a child that’s destined to grow up wealthy, we benefit by association of being his/her parents. Just saying.
July 27, 2012 3:44 pm at 3:44 pm #888749557ParticipantWhat in the EDITED world happened to this tread??!!
We don’t count Jews.
July 27, 2012 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #888750TheGoqParticipantBIG LOLOL
July 27, 2012 4:13 pm at 4:13 pm #888751Doodle-Man™MemberHow does one’s sibling get EDITED ?
July 30, 2012 9:17 am at 9:17 am #888752menucha12Membermy sister has EDITED kids (talk about an EDITED ring circus)
July 30, 2012 10:02 am at 10:02 am #888753SayIDidIt™Participant557: We don’t count Jews.
I don’t think stating how many children are in one’s family is included in that Issur. And I don’t think the Mods EDITED all the numbers because of that. I think s/he was/is having fun.
moski: wish I could EDIT some of mine!! 🙂
menucha12: WOW! Must be crazy there!!!
July 30, 2012 10:13 am at 10:13 am #888754YW Moderator-42ModeratorPerhaps a mod was afraid of revealing personal information. I helped him/her out by EDITING menuchaEDITED‘s post. ^_^
July 30, 2012 10:19 am at 10:19 am #888755haifagirlParticipantI’m an EDITED child, but my parents weren’t frum.
July 30, 2012 10:23 am at 10:23 am #888756SayIDidIt™Participant42, your funny!!
SiDi™
July 30, 2012 12:58 pm at 12:58 pm #888757557Participant557: We don’t count Jews.
I don’t think stating how many children are in one’s family is included in that Issur. And I don’t think the Mods EDITED all the numbers because of that. I think s/he was/is having fun.
You obviously don’t appreciate dry humor.
July 30, 2012 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #888758SayIDidIt™Participant557: Unless stated, nothing online can be read as humor if it can be read seriously. There are some members here who would say something like that and mean it very seriously. Sorry if I didn’t chap!
SiDi™
July 30, 2012 4:38 pm at 4:38 pm #888759ZeesKiteParticipantI don’t EDITED what’s going on here. I have been AWOL for just about one week, the whole EDITED here is on wheels. EDITED EDITED EDITED EDITED. (= What’s going on here?)
July 30, 2012 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #888760ZeesKiteParticipantIt looks like someone in another thread would like his/her child ‘edited’.
July 30, 2012 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #888761youngbubbyMemberSpeaking of large families, and the mother and grandmother of moderately large families, I have seen large families where the parents just get burnt out of parenting and let their younger children grow like weeds. If you can’t raise them, don’t have them
July 30, 2012 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #888762OneOfManyParticipantThere are 2.58 children in my family. We also have 1.3 automobiles – and since I’m the .58, I get the .3 car all to myself. ^_^
July 30, 2012 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #888763🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantOOM – and since I’m the mom I only get it when the kids aren’t using it.
July 30, 2012 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm #888764OneOfManyParticipantlol, my mother makes us run all her errands. Maybe you should try that…
July 30, 2012 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #888765WolfishMusingsParticipantThere are 2.58 children in my family. We also have 1.3 automobiles – and since I’m the .58, I get the .3 car all to myself. ^_^
At least credit Norton Juster when you use his material.
The Wolf
July 30, 2012 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #888766OneOfManyParticipantAnd take all the fun out of keeping ’em guessing? 😛 Besides, the CR already knows I am a Tollbooth fan. ^_^
July 30, 2012 8:29 pm at 8:29 pm #888767🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantThey make up errands to run for me. And they always come back holding slurpees.
July 30, 2012 8:35 pm at 8:35 pm #888768TheGoqParticipantFrom the 7-11 all the way down kimball near the college?
July 30, 2012 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #888769🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantBy the old arie crown or telz? We do the touhy one where they only use the kosher flavors. My kids have VIP status there.
July 30, 2012 9:37 pm at 9:37 pm #888770TheGoqParticipantYeah its the one on bryn mawr thats the one we did back in the day.
And i did attend the old Arie Crown near foster for a few years before they moved i remember being harrassed by the kids from von stueben across the street.
July 30, 2012 10:26 pm at 10:26 pm #888771OneOfManyParticipantBryn Mawr? Are you talking about Chicago or Pennsylvania?
July 30, 2012 11:05 pm at 11:05 pm #888772🍫Syag LchochmaParticipant” . . .being harassed by . . .” Life was good back then, huh? I was just talking about the old arie crown yesterday, and its collection of assistant principals, lol.
July 30, 2012 11:12 pm at 11:12 pm #888773TheGoqParticipantIts a street in Chicago.
July 30, 2012 11:53 pm at 11:53 pm #888774wallflowerParticipantI can’t decide if this is crazy or not.
July 31, 2012 1:54 am at 1:54 am #888775OneOfManyParticipantThat’s interesting…I wonder if it has anything to do with the college in Pennsylvania.
July 31, 2012 2:02 am at 2:02 am #888776Doodle-Man™MemberWow! J*seph has 18 siblings?!
July 31, 2012 2:10 pm at 2:10 pm #888777TheGoqParticipantSyag did your family ever get pop from milty who delivered it to your house?
July 31, 2012 4:24 pm at 4:24 pm #888779🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantOh My Gosh! Of course! Talk-up was a favorite
July 31, 2012 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #888780TheGoqParticipantI’d better stop now im sounding like an old timer, yeah talk up was good!
July 31, 2012 6:35 pm at 6:35 pm #888781🍫Syag LchochmaParticipantSpeak up Goq! Or say it again in my good ear, would ya?
July 31, 2012 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #888782oomisParticipantI had not enough siblings, though supremely happy with the ones I have, B”EH tzu longer yohren. My mother would have wanted several more, though she already had a very nice-sized family, had she been able to have more children. I think one of the reasons I had one more child than she, was because Hashem knew how very much she would have wanted one more. In any case, it is not the number of children we have, but the kochos we put into them, that matters.
July 31, 2012 11:21 pm at 11:21 pm #888783candy613MemberGoq I knew from your posts that you had to have some Chicago blood in you! I’m so sorry for you that you had to move! You’re missing out! 😉
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