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Sam responsible I said “Hereorthere, about what you said.
As far as your kids going into a grocery, it is not up to government or the store owner to regulate everything for everyone else for the sake of your (or anyones) kids.”
And you responded:
::::::::::::”I left out an example. The consumer (environment) should change as I mentioned before, for the sake of our kids. That means even your home is clean of the bad, your kids getting it somewhere else- at weddings, Kadeishim, siyum’s in cheder etc.”::::::::::::
Banning it so your kids can’t get to it is like banning all private ownership of anything and saying no one can have anything
to keep buy or well or give away, so that there will be nothing for anyone to steal.
We can’t do that, even in Soviet Russia people still had things they owned.
What we all have to do it to teach our kids not to steal.
The same with candy and food.
If you raise your kids to be decent people who obey their parents
you do not have to worry about what they will take when they know their parents (and H-sh-m who gave the commandment to all of us obey our parents) would not approve of it and has clearly told them so.
What about smoking and drugs?
Those too are already outlawed for kids to have and use, but many do anyway.
How has banning such things (at least for kids) stopped some from using them? It hasn’t.
Those who do not obey and who want to do it will do it.
It is how you raise your children, not how the government will raise your children, that will make the difference.
About what you said; For instance my self. I do enjoy eating with the diet we’re talking about.
Like I said previously, there is extreme large choices (selection) in the grocery. We can even have almost every Nosh, Cake (for the craving kids) as I do. We can switch to Trans-Fat free (A lately option), Products without “H.F. Corn Syrup”. (plain corn syrup OR fructose, etc).
What do you say to that.”
Actually I look at the labels and usually avoid transfats.
Some things I thought were really tasty I avoided because they had transfats in them.
My problem is not with nutritional awareness or with better healthy choices.
My problem is with government mandating it.
Once government is allowed to decide for us what we may or may not have, it is guaranteed to eventually lead to an oppressive situation like Soviet Russia or worse like North Korea where people literally starve to death, under such government control.
Peoples’ worst enemies, often come to them as friends pretending to care about them, like liberals, so concerned with ‘your health’ for example.
If they care so much about people and their well being and about their children, they would be constantly campaigning to stop school bullying, which is far worse by many times, then childhood obesity (and in fact is probably one factor causing childhood obesity, because the kid who is afraid to go out and exercise because of bullies, will stay indoors and ‘not’ get that exercise).
Obviously they are not on a campaign to stop neighborhood and school bullying, thus proving they care nothing about the childrens’ well being.
Since they are so obviously lying (and that is just one small example of a massive overwhelming, ship load, of proof) about what their true agenda really is, I would never trust them to run my life and would resist with any (albiet meager) power, I have, the idea of them gaining even more control over my life then they have now.
Just remember in Germany in the 1920’s a certain group that rose to power on the basis of “improving society”.
Or Stalin who used the same theme to take over ‘his’ country and become it’s absolute dictator.
Jews did far worse then most others in both countries during that era.
Jews should be the absolute ‘last’ ones, to trust any government with increasing power over their lives (and that includes a Jewish government, like the seculars in Israel).
You said; “Be careful with the Trans-Fat free symbol. Look Only on Ingredients! It shouldn’t be any of the word
H-y-d-r-o-g-e-n-a-t-e-d OR Vegetable Fat at least.
Nutrition Facts is an additional confusion factor.(next time) “
Yes I know this, but it is good information, so I appreciate you posting it here.
Thanks.
Sam responsible;
I am not sure what you are saying.
What does “let out the governemnt” mean?
You mean let them regulate everything, or do you mean get them out of running our lives?
I also do not know what you mean by “you also have to take it over and and be in control on it. To bad!”
Do you mean here that we each individual must take control of our lives or do you mean, the government must be in control and too bad for those (like me) who do not like that idea?
From your wording it could easily mean either one, and thus it is far from clear, what you mean, here.
Yes you also said you do not hold differently, but in earlier posts it seemed that you supported these government regulations.
Even here you say “Too bad for us that we
need to be looking on labels in Grocery (until the consumer will change it, if we work together)” which could mean the consumer must change it to be more regulated.
If not then what do you mean here?
I do not understand because it was not clear, and still isn’t.
Sam responsible;
OK now it’s more clear, thanks.
As for comsumer changing manufacturers, the most effective way to do that is with your money.
What you won’t spend money on, they won’t keep making.
Conversely what you will spend money on, is what they will be encouraged to continue.
I was looking at two Cheesecakes in the store today, one had no sugar listed but did have hydrogenated oil (transfats).
The other had the opposite, it had sugar but no transfats (at least not listed that I could tell.)
Since I like a sweet cheesecake and do not want transfats I chose the one with the Sugar (while I lamented the fact that it still won’t have nearly ‘enough’ sugar for me since they do not put in as much as they used to as if people buy cheesecake to be healthy anyway) and voted with my money.
That may be true of sugar but I do not buy cheese cake very often.
When I do I want the full taste otherwise there is no point in eating it at all.
Overall I eat a lot of sugar, but that is just me and my choice.
I haven’t much money and can’t even afford air conditioning during along hot disgusting horrible agonizing summer.
My only enjoyment and momentary relief comes from enjoying my food (which I am eating a lot less of, lately anyway) if that were taken away I would have nothing but to sit in my hot room trying to sleep and thinking how bad my life is.
That sure would not be healthy at all, people commit suicide from less provocation.
Now someone who would want to ban me from having the sugar for “my own good” would be the same kind of anti Torah liberal, who had ruined my life in the first place so obviously they would care nothing about my health no matter how much they would claim they did.
I did not mention any names of anyone ruining anyones lives by their posts.
Just the fact that those who (whoever they are) who think the government has any right to regulate what we may or may not eat either by direct ban or by excessive regulation or high taxes which prices the item out of the marketplace are ruining some people lives and ultimately everyones lives because the communistas won’t stop with food.
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