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  • #614794
    SayIDidIt™
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    They are pretty. They smell so good. But why do girls/women want them so much? They don’t really do anything and they will wither away in a couple of days.

    If you gave me flowers (even a dozen roses) I would say thanks, but if much rather have something I can really enjoy. Or fake flowers so they will last!

    But girls don’t want fake flowers! There is even an old (Goyish) song entitles Paper Roses which compares paper roses to fake love…

    So what is it about flowers (especially roses) that you like so much?

    SiDi™

    #1058264
    Rema711
    Member

    It is a billion dollar business

    #1058265
    👑RebYidd23
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    Fake flowers are ugly and don’t smell good. And transient beauty is not any less beautiful. And the ladies don’t want the flowers as much as they want someone special to buy them flowers.

    #1058266
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    And why not have someone special buy them something they can actually do something with?

    And fake flowers don’t have to be ugly! Just do a Google search for fake flowers, they don’t look bad at all!

    SiDi™

    #1058267
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Because if you buy a girl a vacuum cleaner, she thinks you’re telling her to work. And if you buy her fake flowers, it’s like saying you never want to buy her flowers again.

    #1058268
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    Come on! I wasn’t talking about a vacuum cleaner!! A book, CD, clothing, dinner out… Things that can be appreciated and enjoyed for more then a couple days (except dinner out, chocolate or any food product).

    SiDi™

    #1058269
    TheGoq
    Participant

    It is because they are temporary that they are so appreciated the giver is saying I could have spent this money on myself but i chose to buy these flowers for you even tho i know they will be in the trash can in a week, its the thought that counts, this is my way of saying how much i appreciate/love/respect you that i would spend my money on something that will be gone soon.

    #1058270
    FFBBT613
    Member

    It’s a sweet gesture. It’s something out of the norm.

    #1058271
    barlev
    Participant

    Sidi, it’s an emotional thing, men don’t understand it, but know it’s the right thing to do, shabbos queen also likes fresh flowers

    #1058272
    the plumber
    Member

    Sidi

    Were talking women over here.

    You buy her a book, its saying shes not educated.

    You buy a cd, she thinks you dont want to hear her.

    You buy her jewelry/ makeup, she thinks she looks bad.

    You buy her clothing, she thinks you hate her taste.

    And so on

    Safest bet- flowers

    #1058273

    My husband brought me flowers one shabbos during the one week that I didn’t have time to take any showers, I thought it was very thoughtful

    #1058274
    cozimjewish
    Member

    “You buy a cd, she thinks you dont want to hear her.”

    Personally, I’d take a CD over flowers any day. (I’d take a CD over pretty much anything, actually.) 🙂

    Seriously though, flowers generally don’t cost as much as clothing, jewelry etc. (I hope!) Often my father will just buy my mother flowers for Shabbos because he is in the mood to buy her something, but people generally don’t want to spend money on expensive gifts every second week! Flowers are just a nice, fairly inexpensive way to show someone you care about them.

    #1058275
    Rema711
    Member

    sayididit I grow flowers in my backyard I will give u some

    #1058276
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    the plumber, I’m not a women, but I don’t think you’re right! If I know she is a big fan of Shwekey and I buy her his latest CD, that’s not saying I don’t want to hear her! If I get her a new novel, that’s not saying she’s uneducated! It’s saying I care about what she enjoys and I’m willing to spend my money for her!

    I purposely did not put jewelry on my list cause it’s very expensive. But CDs are around $15 today. Books are between $15-$30 and flowers are $20-$50 (on all these categories, there are cheaper and more expensive. Prices given here were from searches online: ArtScroll, Feldheim, Mostly Music and a number of Flower sites.

    So flowers are around the same price as CDs and books. So why are flowers better?

    I hear what The Goq is saying about being temporary but I still don’t get it! Food is also temporary. Or a gift card to a spa (not to make you all pretty but to relax and enjoy. This stuff is beyond me…) or something like that. I’m spending my money on you cause I appreciate/love/respect you!

    FFBBT613, I don’t think flowers are “out of the norm”. From what I understand, it IS the norm!

    If she likes having pretty flowers on the table, buy nice fake flowers and every couple weeks get something else so she can change them.

    cozimjewish, would you rather a new novel or a bouquet of flowers? How about chocolates?

    #1058277
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Flowers are also something you can give with another gift. And though chocolate could possibly be seen as an insult, it isn’t.

    #1058278
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Fake flowers are ugly and don’t smell good. And transient beauty is not any less beautiful. And the ladies don’t want the flowers as much as they want someone special to buy them flowers.

    One of the best gifts I bought for my wife was, for our anniversary, I had her wedding bouquet replicated in silk flowers. 🙂

    The Wolf

    #1058279
    Rema711
    Member

    WolfishMusings I will get u a lifetime supply of roses

    #1058280
    the plumber
    Member

    My friends husband gave her the best gift of all, a divorce.

    She was VERY appreciative.

    #1058281
    flatbusher
    Participant

    I agree that flowers are a poor investment. They can be expensive and don’t last long. Roses are beautiful but they seem to have the shortest lifespan of looking beautiful, and when I do buy flowers I avoid them. My wife appreciates when I give them before Shabbos or Yom Tov, but I won’t buy flowers for any other occasion. I prefer to buy something of more lasting, memorable nature. As far as I am concerned, florists are one of the biggest ripoff businesses, but I don’t blame the vendors. People are just suckers for flowers.

    #1058282
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Rema,

    I don’t mind… I do a fair amount of floral photography. 🙂

    The Wolf

    #1058284
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    cozimjewish:

    …but people generally don’t want to spend money on expensive gifts…

    RebYidd23:

    Flowers are also something you can give with another gift.

    So RebYidd, that’s just raising the cost…

    The Wolf, did she appreciate them? How did they compare to real flowers and what was the price difference?

    #1058285
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Raises the cost, lowers the damages when she sees you got her a vacuum cleaner.

    #1058286
    Rema711
    Member

    RebYidd23 get ur wife a chocolate rose u will thank me later

    #1058287
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    Another question:

    Ladies, would you rather a small present every week/every other week (flowers, CD, book etc.) or one nice gift every few months (jewelry or the like) [not in place of birthday/anniversary present]?

    SiDi™

    #1058289
    Letakein Girl
    Participant

    I would take chocolate over flowers any day, but that’s just little immature me. 🙂

    I think I would prefer the second option, Sidi. Happy anniversary, btw. (?)

    #1058290
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    LG, thanks for your response. I don’t think that’s immature at all! But can you explain the “need/want” for real flowers? And would you rather fake or real?

    And no, I’m not celebrating anything. This discussion is not ?????. Just me thinking out loud… As evident from this thread: http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/???-????-???-a-thank-you-to-women I’m still waiting…

    #1058291
    streekgeek
    Participant

    I’d say chocolate in a heartbeat and I don’t think that’s immature 🙂

    I like fresh flowers as well. A lot. With our small emptyish apartment, fresh flowers add a whole lot of life. Fake flowers just don’t stand out the same way as a fresh bouquet. I know it’s not practical though for everyday (got fake ones for that) but when we’re home for Shabbos that’s the way it’s got to be.

    #1058292

    Real flowers – when put together well – can be breathtaking. I personally grew up that flowers are a part of Shabbos and Yom Tov. Table looks empty without them (even when set well). Flowers smell heavenly too (depends which one) and brighten a room (cant argue with that)

    You can buy a real bouquet:

    1. L’kovod Shabbos and Yom Tov

    2. When you think of someone (re: wife)

    Now you can say same for chocolates and CD’s. But Hashem created flowers and something sentimental about them.

    Naturally, women are closer to Hashem and his world. Therefore, a woman enjoys nature (so there you go about flowers).

    Usually a person will purchase flowers when they are thinking of someone and want to show it – that’s what a woman wants from her husband.

    A book, CD or chocolates – given a gift – will show that you wanted to buy a gift, not necessarily ‘thinking’.

    Ever heard of the expression “It’s the thought that counts?”

    Well, that role plays a very big part when it comes to women.

    #1058293
    Lovelyme
    Member

    Ask her what she wants in general most normal women like flowers

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