Flanken Kugel

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  • #588195
    Joe Schmo
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    Did anyone here ever hear of flanken kugel? I believe others call it an overnight potato kugel?

    Its made overnight with potatoes and fatty Flanken with the bones.

    Mammish a delicacy, and naturally an immediate cause for heartburn.

    In all seriousness, I’d like to get the recipe and the instructions to make this kugel. Any help is appreciated.

    #808050
    illini07
    Member

    I’ve heard it referred to as “potato-kugel cholent” and it is indeed immensely delicious.

    I’ll see if I can find the recipe and share it.

    #808053
    ujm
    Participant

    illini07 – Kosher ingredients only please.

    #808054
    shindy
    Member

    my mother in law makes potatoe kugel with the rendered chicken fat. the yellow stuff

    #808055
    illini07
    Member

    UJM:

    How DARE you. How dare you imply that I would either EAT or POST any non-kosher ingredients?

    That was a disgusting comment, especially in the month of Elul.

    #808056
    oomis
    Participant

    UJM’s comment was ill-advised, but I took it to be intended as a joke. I don’t know if you two have a history of negative comments towards each other, as I have not been on this site too long, but if you don’t and UJM would have no reason to otherwise want to insult you, do you think you could try to be dan l’chaf z’chus in the month of Elul (as you yourself pointed out, Illinois), and think that maybe UJM was just making a really poor joke at your expense, and not actively seeking to actually accuse you of being non-kosher?

    #808057
    ujm
    Participant

    sheesh illini07. In all your time here, I NEVER noticed a sense of humor in you.

    You are the only one who could take that on yeshivaworld so literally.

    #808058
    ujm
    Participant

    Next time I’ll post it in Adur.

    #808059
    illini07
    Member

    UJM:

    You’ve posted other less-than-nice words about me, but Ooomis is right – I should have been dan l’kav zchus nonetheless. Therefor, I do apologize and ask for mechilah.

    (I do indeed have a sense of humor that has been shown, but some things aren’t exactly laughing material)

    #808060
    ujm
    Participant

    illini07, I don’t particularly recall posting less-than-nice words about you, but surely can bring truth to those words of yours.

    No needs for mechila from me, and presumably vice versa, if necessary.

    Have you ever displayed any less-than-nice words to others on these boards? (Surely well-deserved, no doubt…)

    PS The first paragraph is a joke.

    #808061

    Here’s something that the family enjoyed:

    Ingredients:

    5 lb. Idaho potatoes

    1 medium sized onion

    4 large eggs (or 3 extra-large)

    5 tablespoons oil

    2 – 3 teaspoons salt

    1/4 teaspoon fresh ground pepper

    1/4 cup potato starch

    1 cup boiling water

    1/4 cup oil

    2 packages boneless flanken

    Directions:

    1) Peel, wash, and grate the potatoes.

    2) Remove the excess liquid from the grated potatoes (dumping them into a colander and pressing them by hand works for me).

    3) Grate the onion. Don’t remove the onion juice.

    4) Beat the eggs together with the salt, pepper and 5 tablespoons of oil.

    5) Mix the grated potatoes and grated onion, together with the eggs, salt, pepper, and oil you combined in step 4.

    6) Sprinkle 1/4 cup potato starch over the mix.

    7) Pour 1 cup boiling water over the mix.

    8) Once again, mix everything well.

    9) Pour 1/4 cup of oil into a 9″x13″ pan.

    10) Preheat oven to 500 degrees.

    11) Put pan in oven for about a minute. Do not allow oil to burn.

    12) Pour potato kugel mix into pan.

    13) Put flanken into potato kugel mix. Lay the pieces on top of the raw mix (try to distribute them evenly), then press them down so they are below the surface of the mix. Once you are done, none of the meat should be showing.

    14) Bake uncovered at 500 degrees for twenty minutes.

    15) Reduce the heat to 400 degrees and bake for another forty minutes or until the top is a deep golden brown.

    16) Cover the potato kugel with aluminum foil.

    17) Put another 9″x13″ filled with about 1.5″ of water (enough so it won’t boil off) on a lower oven rack.

    18) Reduce the heat to 200 – 225 degrees and bake for another 4 – 5 hours.

    Comments:

    c) Baking more than one kugel at a time in the same oven increases the cooking time.

    #808062
    seeallsides
    Participant

    tried this recipe today – question- how many lbs flanken do you use? i assume you take off the bones? seems like it would take a lot of flanken to distribute evenly on a 9 x 13 – sorry but if you could just explain a little better to recipe challenged people i would appreciate it

    #808063

    seeallsides-

    I use two packages of flanken that are approximately 1 pound each (or slightly over) for a total of about 2.1 – 2.25 lbs.

    Yes, I cut the bones out using a sharp steak knife before cooking. Some of the earlier posts indicate a preference for leaving the bones in, but I want a dish that is 100% edible.

    The 2 lbs. flanken do pretty much cover the entire pan, although there are some small gaps. The way it’s laid out, each slice of kugel should contain at least some meat.

    …explain a little better to recipe challenged people…

    Thank you for the very diplomatic way of pointing out that my instruction of “two packages of flanken” really isn’t a measurement.

    I took a couple of photos of the recipe being prepared, including the flanken being laid out on top of the mix and then after being pressed into the mix.

    If you think they’d be helpful I’ll B”N find a photo-sharing site and post them there.

    Please don’t answer this if you’d rather not, but I’m curious – how’d your flanken kugel come out?

    #808064
    always here
    Participant

    aren’t ‘overnite kugel’ & ‘flanken kugel’ two different things? I thought the ‘overnite kugel’ is basically finely-grated (smooth)potato kugel cooked for many hours, & can even be parve…

    my husband buys it occasionally.

    #808065

    always here-

    I think “overnight (potato) kugel” is any potato kugel that’s left in the oven at low heat for several hours – often overnight on Friday for the Shabbos daytime seuda – after it’s finished cooking.

    This causes the kugel to turn a brown or brownish-yellow color instead of the usual yellow potato-kugel color, and the flavor changes in a way that many people (including yours truly) find delicious. (Of course, regular potato kugel is also just fine.)

    Potato kugel can either be of the “overnight” variety or not.

    So can flanken kugel – it can be cooked like a regular non-overnight kugel, or for an extended period at low heat beyond that for more of an “overnight” taste.

    #808066
    always here
    Participant

    <Joe Shmo’s OP confused me: “Did anyone here ever hear of flanken kugel? I believe others call it an overnight potato kugel?”>

    first time I’ve ever heard of ‘flanken kugel’, altho’ I use flanken meat alot 🙂

    #808067

    Is the real name yupchick or something?

    Can different meat be substituted?

    #808068

    always here

    You’re right – the original post is confusing / combining two separate things.

    Lakewood Dude

    I think it’s called “yapchik”, “yapzik” and possibly other names as well.

    I have no idea if that’s Yiddish, Hungarian or something else.

    As far as other meats that can be used, I’d assume kalichel or other cholent meat would be a possibility, but I don’t know. I really don’t know much about cooking (sorry).

    #808069
    ontheball
    Member

    You can make this in the crockpot too-put some oil on the bottom, 1/2 the raw potato kugel recipe, cover with meat-either flanken, minute steak,cheek meat….then cover with second half of raw kugel mixture. cook overnite, Delicious!!!!

    #808070
    seeallsides
    Participant

    icot – thanks for follow up answers – I made it – but didn’t really have enough flanken to get the full benefit. The kugel was quite good anyway – I had a hard time getting it out of the pan, so next time i will line the pan with parchment paper.

    #808071
    real-brisker
    Member

    icot – I made your recipe, It tastes amazing! Thanks.

    #808072

    real-brisker-

    Glad to hear that – you’re very welcome.

    #808073
    am yisrael chai
    Participant

    And it’s a gluten-free recipe as well.

    Thanks again, Icot!

    #808074
    real-brisker
    Member

    ICOT – 🙂

    #808075
    bpmum
    Participant

    its so simple just make a regular potato kugel add a bit of seltser chicken soup parpika and fatty flanken put it in the crockpot on low for like 18 hrs at least keep trying to mix it… i use cornflour sometimes if i wake up and tis to water (as opposed to flour so its gluten free) and if its too dry i add chicken soup or seltser

    #808076
    oomis
    Participant

    Anyone have a good tasting gluten-free challah recipe and/or a 100% whole wheat (no white flour) challah recipe that does not require a lot of sugar?

    #808078
    golden mom
    Member

    i have made something simular:

    i prepared chop meat like i do for burgers or meat loaf put it flat on bottom of a 10×16 pan and made a potato kugel w 14 eggs on top and baked it in the oven its a full meal great for chol hamoad everybody loved it

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