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April 7, 2013 3:09 am at 3:09 am #608874Torah613TorahParticipant
So there’s this kid I know. She gets a +2 in her Tefila class every time she goes to shul. Do you think this is a good policy on her teacher’s part?
April 7, 2013 3:30 am at 3:30 am #942989youngladyMemberthe gra holds that girls shouldn’t go to shul at all
April 7, 2013 3:32 am at 3:32 am #942990sharpMemberWe don’t know enough about this “kid” to be able to answer this question intelligently.
April 7, 2013 4:10 am at 4:10 am #942991BYbychoiceMemberi knew of a kid that was in my class that got a five dollar gift card for coming to school for every week straight to davening on time
April 7, 2013 5:13 am at 5:13 am #942992Torah613TorahParticipantYounglady: And why is that? This girl never talks, I’ll have you know.
April 7, 2013 5:14 am at 5:14 am #942993Torah613TorahParticipantsharp: Guess!
yiddishmeidel: Hmm not much you can do with $5.
April 7, 2013 3:00 pm at 3:00 pm #942994youngladyMembertorah613torah: it’s not about talking in shul, the gra says that going to shul will cause kinah and lashon harah when she will see the other girls dressed better than her.
April 7, 2013 3:08 pm at 3:08 pm #942995BYbychoiceMembertorah613- no she got one EVERY week that she came on time, so how many weeks in a school year!!!!!!!!!!!! and besides for a girl any amount is good to buy things with 🙂
April 7, 2013 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #942996sharpMemberPolicy is not going to get this kid where the teacher would like. Even if she goes to shul. You can’t force anyone to daven even with incentives… If this kid wants to daven, she will. And if she doesn’t want to, so then all the incentives in the world will not help.
yiddeshemeidle613, Getting to school on time for davening is nice, but this kid might still not be davening.
younglady, so in that case girls shouldn’t go anywhere. How about girls working on their middos? Are you sure that this is the reason for The Gra?
April 7, 2013 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #942997BYbychoiceMembersharp- ??
April 7, 2013 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #942998Torah613TorahParticipantyounglady: Women didn’t shmooze with each other in the Gra’s time?
ym: wow.
Sharp: Imho, tests should be academic. You shouldn’t get a +2 for doing things. What about kids whose mothers need them at home?
April 7, 2013 9:02 pm at 9:02 pm #942999sharpMemberT613, “Imho, tests should be academic. You shouldn’t get a +2 for doing things. “
I don’t know the kid or the situation, so I won’t comment on this.
What about kids whose mothers need them at home?
I gave you one reason why I didn’t like this policy. You’re bringing another. I agree with you. I have many more reasons as to why I don’t like this policy. I commented on the Tefillah part because this is what I thought you meant.
(As a side point, I’m pretty sure the mother can phone the teacher if she is averse to it…)
April 7, 2013 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #943000interjectionParticipantThe vilna gaon writes in a letter to his family (igeres hagra) that his wife and daughters shouldn’t go to shul because it can be a fashion show. These girls grew up with the vilna gaon as a father, he knew they were the last people you’d expect to talk in shul.
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