Exercising in a kosher way

Not sure why a “men only” gym is a real issue. In today’s world, you will not see a woman dressed much differently in a gym than you probably see multiple times a day on the street or in the park on a warm summer day (in fact, possibly worse on the street than in the gym). Keeping yourself healthy is more important than possibly someone on the treadmill not being dressed tziniudik. There are plenty of exercise videos on line with men only…we cannot post web links here but just google “men’s fitness” videos and you will get plenty of options. Much hatzlacha with your fitness efforts.

My point was simple and I think you know it (especially if you live in BP, Willy or any other major urban area….the way women dress on the street may not be much different than the gym….perhaps your one of the ehrliche yiddne who are like those big tzadikim that YWN ran the story about who wear some sort of bag over their heads when flying on commercial airlines. If you believe that the women at your local gym are dressing especially provactively, than I agree with you 100 percent but a my gym, most of the women are wearing oversized sweats and loose baggy tops that do not challenge the yetzer hora.

OOoops sorry ajs4!

My comment wasn’t for you, but for Gadolhadorah.

My point was simple and I think you know it

So was mine, and so do you.

Frum men doing workouts? Where did they find them?

Yes one can find immodest clothing out in the street but unlike the gym the person wearing them is not in constant movement and gyrating every which way, I concur with DY.

Ajs4 has a very valid point. You need to focus on the trainer and specific muscle groups to ensure exercise is being done properly. You just need to look where your going when walking on the street and can ignore everything else around you.

Walking is very low intensity. Several forms of aerobic exercise are better (swiming, which requires special facilities – as well as biking and running). Strength training is important, and that can best be done with special equipment.

Just like we have a chavrusah for learning, in some cases it makes sense to have a similar chavrussah for fitness and exercise. Not only will it provide really important incentives to exercise on a regular basis, running or biking with your friends may give you needed chizuk to pursue your fitness goals and share ideas/suggestions on how you might exercise more efficiently. Several of you might also be able to afford (as a group) to hire a trainer one day a week or something like that. Exercising by yourself is good for some men and women but “group” efforts are more likely to keep you committed to your “exercise chevrah” for a longer term.

You need to walk more than just around the block twice, you need to walk for at least 30 mins a day

“Keeping yourself healthy is more important than possibly someone on the treadmill not being dressed tziniudik”

Surprised that DY (and anyone else for that matter) didn’t comment on this line.

LU

I dont know about where you are located, but here in NYC area, most people are not dressed untzniut outside at this time of year, they would freeze. Its cold outside and its going to get colder

Joseph – I don’t think that was an appropriate (or fair) response.

It’s also irrelevant. You can comment on someone’s post even if it’s not surprising, and even when the person really isn’t Frum.

DovidBT – true. For that matter, the only reason that I know that most men and boys where I live look down when they see a female approaching is because that’s what they do when I’m there, and I think I’m pretty tznius.

ZD – I’m not sure what your point is. Can you explain?

I think he was pointing out another way in which a gym is worse than the street.

“ZD – I’m not sure what your point is. Can you explain?”

“I think he was pointing out another way in which a gym is worse than the street.”

Oh. I thought he was arguing with me somehow, but I didn’t get how. But your explanation makes sense. Thanks.

Is that what you meant, ZD?

And I thought she meant that it’s okay to put yourself in that position because your health is more important – and an implication that there is nothing wrong with it because we have developed ourselves so efficiently that many of the halachos barely even apply to us anymore. r”l

“And I thought she meant that it’s okay to put yourself in that position because your health is more important – and an implication that there is nothing wrong with it because we have developed ourselves so efficiently that many of the halachos barely even apply to us anymore. r”l”

Precisely my point. Thank you, SYAG.

She was determining halacha based on her own feelings, so that’s why I would have expected you to say something, DY. And in this case, I would actually have agreed with you, because in this case, that is really what is happening.

I just looked back at her sentence, and it is clear from the lashon that she meant it the way I understood it. She wrote “than looking at someone”, so she was saying that it’s okay to look.

Lilmod, it is his cumulative history of comments here that leads me to so categorize him, not merely this comment in isolation. That history of dismissing and disagreeing with Torah law makes that categorization abundantly clear.

RY – sorry, but I don’t own a men’s gym, nor do I have any plans of doing so at any point in either this life or any future lives.

ZD – I didn’t say that the street is necessarily untznius. My point was that even if the street is untznius, it’s not as bad as a gym. But if you’re right and it’s not untznius at all, that further proves my point.

Oh and by the way, I just passed two women wearing leggings outside.

She wrote “than looking at someone”

No she didn’t.

She did, however, subsequently write,” If you believe that the women at your local gym are dressing especially provactively, than I agree with you 100 percent but a my gym, most of the women are wearing oversized sweats and loose baggy tops that do not challenge the yetzer hora.”

”She wrote “than looking at someone”

”No she didn’t.”

You’re right – that was a mistake.

”She did, however, subsequently write,” If you believe that the women at your local gym are dressing especially provactively, than I agree with you 100 percent but a my gym, most of the women are wearing oversized sweats and loose baggy tops that do not challenge the yetzer hora.”

The original sentence is still a problem. (This sentence is also a problem, but that’s a separate issue).

Sorry this Is a bit late but this subject is close to my heart.

For under $700.00 (one time cost) you can get a Oly barbell, iron plates, and a squat rack. Get a competent Strength coach to teach you how to perform the basic barbell lifts safely and put together a simple program built around progressing the basic lifts.

Walk on your non lifting days

No gym required. In fact the above is more effective for your health then most anything else you can do in a gym. Not to mention most efficient from a time management point of you.

Exercise tapes, live aerobics style classes, training on cardio equipment, etc are largly a waste of time. Yes, if you are totally unfit you will see improvement but you could get the same from a consistent walking program. Long term the above cardio based programs will make you weaker and hungrier. Most people use them as a misguided way of purging calories.