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    Ex-CTLawyer
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    The Exodus has begun….our Pesach Guests have started to depart.

    Middle daughter is on her way back to her job/home in Europe and with apologies to the Queen for starting the GEOGRAPHY CLUB thread anew.

    I’m posting a double based on her flight itinerary:

    Lisbon, Portugal

    This fact is for Geordie613. In 1978 had to fly from TLV to JBG for Pesach. El Al on strike (again). SAA put on flights but couldn’t fly over Black Africa. Flew from TLV to Lisbon to refuel and then around the west coast of Africa to get there. Portugal was the only southern European country that would let South African planes in their airspace or land.

    Changing planes:

    Nice, France

    It’s nice in Nice. Sunshine on the Riviera. I have neighbors who escaped from Holland in 1939 and spent the war hiding out in Vichy France just outside of Nice.

    #1151473
    Geordie613
    Participant

    CTL, thank you for that.

    I have also flown through Lisbon, from Johannesburg when I first went to Gateshead Yeshiva. But that was on Air Portugal aka TAP. On my way back I was in transit for a day and a half, traveling Newcastle-Heathrow-Lisbon-Kinshasa-Johannesburg, from Monday morning to Tuesday afternoon.

    I think SAA’s main stopover on the Europe route to avoid Africa was Ilha do Sal, in Cape Verde. They still used it later on westward flights as a crew changeover point on the flights to Atlanta. If i remember correctly, the usual route to Tel Aviv was via Ilha do sal and Rome (?) and took 22 hours. After Apartheid, they flew direct and it took 6 hours.

    #1151474
    Geordie613
    Participant

    Edinburgh, Scotland

    Thanks CTL.

    Where’s the Queen?

    #1151475
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    Hamburg, Germany

    Gateway to America for most escaping the Pale of Settlement.

    Geordie>>re: Edinburgh

    As I teach my kids/grandkids, if a city name ends in Berg it means mountain, if it’s Burgh then it’s an abbreviation for borough–a small town (that later grew up.

    #1151476
    zahavasdad
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    CT

    Many jews escaping Europe also went through Antwerp. In fact there is a museum there dedicated to emigration from Europe to the US (The opposite side of Ellis Island)

    #1151477
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    ZD………

    Ellis Island is where the newcomers arrived. We old-timers arrived at Castle Garden. My statement was MOST, not all. Hamburg was the closest major port to the Pale. Most did not cross all of western Europe to get to Antwerp before 1924

    #1151478
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Google Red Star Line Museum in Antwerp

    It was a fascinating museum and I found out some family history when I was there. I had family members who had gone through Antwerp and this museum (It wasnt a museum, it was the ships docking) they turned it into a museum.

    If anyone here ever gets to Antwerp you should certainly visit this museum

    #1151479
    Geordie613
    Participant

    Getting back to the subject at hand…

    Glasgow, Scotland

    Staying in Scotland, this the largest city in Scotland, and the fourth largest in the UK

    #1151480
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    Warsaw, Poland.

    There was an uprising in 1943

    #1151481
    Geordie613
    Participant

    Warwick, England

    Warwick Castle was established in 1068 as part of the Norman conquest of England.

    Warwick School claims to be the oldest boys’ school in the UK.

    And by the way, for you Yanks, it’s pronounced ‘Worrik’.

    #1151482
    The Queen
    Participant

    Krakow Poland

    Home of the Megalah Amukes – Reb Nosson Nota Shapira

    #1151483
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    Wien. Austria

    My late father in law was born there. Americans call it Vienna

    #1151484
    Geordie613
    Participant

    Brits also call it Vienna, but we’ll let you get away with it this time.

    Newcastle-upon-Tyne, North-East England

    My birthplace!!! Local dialect is called Geordie and people born within 10 miles (according to one version) are called Geordies, which famously is the source of my nickname on this site and others.

    #1151485
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    Eger, Hungary (also known as Erlau)

    Famous for its red wines

    #1151486
    Geordie613
    Participant

    Rendsburg, Germany

    #1151487
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    Galway, Ireland

    One branch of my family spent 50 years in Ireland on the way to America from Eastern Europe.

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