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January 21, 2011 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm #594389jewish brotherMember
what is the idea of not speaking to your chosson while engaged?
where does the minhug come from?
January 21, 2011 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #734009WolfishMusingsParticipantwhat is the idea of not speaking to your chosson while engaged?
where does the minhug come from?
What community to you belong to (in a theological, not geographic sense)?
The Wolf
January 21, 2011 6:56 pm at 6:56 pm #734010real-briskerMemberjewish brother – are you chasidish?
January 23, 2011 1:21 am at 1:21 am #734011doodle jumpParticipantIt is a chasidishe minhag. I find it hard to understand how a chassan and kallah are able to do follow it especially since chassidim do have a longer engagement period.
January 23, 2011 2:13 am at 2:13 am #734012☕ DaasYochid ☕ParticipantThe communities (theological) that do not have engaged couples see each other, generally have them meet only once or twice before they get engaged. There is not much of a relationship to maintain, so they wait until they are married. Usually, they are younger than in other circles, and their hands are also held by their parent for a while after the wedding, making the transition easier. Those communities have a different style of upbringing to begin with. It’s a completely different system than the one many are used to; to apply some of the features of that shidduch process in a vacuum would likely lead to disaster, but it seems to work for them.
January 23, 2011 2:18 am at 2:18 am #734013mewhoParticipantthis way they dont get to know each other, no chance of breaking the engagement. hehehe
January 23, 2011 3:18 am at 3:18 am #734014HadaLXTPMemberdoodle jump
Being that their probably still in school at their age it shouldn’t be too difficult.
January 23, 2011 3:32 am at 3:32 am #734015doodle jumpParticipantDaas Yochid,
You are right. The parents are much more involved with the shiduch and the chassan and kallah are also much younger, since in their circle ,they start with shiduchim earlier than the yeshivish world. It is a system that works for them and that is the main thing.
January 23, 2011 5:57 am at 5:57 am #734018watermelonMemberJewish bro,Do you mind mentioning your main source of info?
Based on the threads you’ve started,it seems like the source is “hearsay”.
Is that correct?
Otherwise,you would have asked the person who told you,or read further on in the book.
Which leads me to inquire:
Are you Jewish at this time?
Or studying to become Jewish?
January 23, 2011 6:00 am at 6:00 am #734019watermelonMemberI think people will word their answers more clearly/less clearly–depending on the direction you’re coming from.
January 24, 2011 3:36 pm at 3:36 pm #734020TheGoqParticipantmy brother and my sister in law didnt speak the week before the wedding so that the wedding day would be more special
January 24, 2011 10:57 pm at 10:57 pm #734021eclipseMemberSome people stop talking to each other after they get married!It’s called chairem d’GERUSHIN…No,I didn’t mean d’rabeinu gershom.
January 24, 2011 11:36 pm at 11:36 pm #734022always hereParticipantmy youngest daughter & son-in-law didn’t speak, text, or even look at each other’s facebook pages the week before the wedding. we thought it was perhaps a Lubavitcher thing, as I don’t remember such stringencies with my other children, who if I remember correctly just didn’t see each other for the entire week before (same as my husband & me).
January 25, 2011 12:07 am at 12:07 am #734023oomisParticipantSome people actually do this, in order to prevent them from getting into fights with each other during a time that some people are especially nervous and tense. I personally think that if a chosson and kallah cannot weather an argument or two that might arise before marriage, I don’t see how they will after the fact.
Some people hold that once the engagement is set there is no further purpose to conversation, and it could lead to untzniusdig behavior. Oo-kayyyyy…. And still other hold that way the week before the wedding. More commonly, many hold that the chosson and kallah should merely LIMIT the amount of converation they have on a weekly basis, to once a week. Again, not my thing, but who am I to decide what is right for them?
February 1, 2011 1:59 am at 1:59 am #734024mosheroseMemberNot speaking while engaged is a very good thing. Most poskim would ban talking to yur kallah during engagement at all if they could. All talking to yur kallah does is increase the chances of not acting in a tznius fashion.
February 1, 2011 3:10 am at 3:10 am #734025psach libi bsorasechaMemberi mostly agree with oomis on this one. i don’t wanna get screamed at, but come on! ur gonna live with this person for the rest of ur life (iy’h)! as much as you think you know the person by the time you get engaged, there is so much more to find out. an engagement period is time to get to know each other better, and come on there are just certain things you need to discuss like finding a place to live …………(i don’t feel like going thru a whole list)
so while i agree it must, without a doubt be in a tzniusdik fashion, you gotta talk to each other!
February 1, 2011 3:26 am at 3:26 am #734026truth be toldMemberpsach libi bsorasecha: Please realize that once engaged, and spending lots of time together or talking, may lead to frustration. If you got engaged, you want to be and behave married. When you spend lots of time together you end feeling frustrated at not being married yet, which at times, leads to feeling frustrated at being engaged or at the perceived source of the frustration, the choson/kallah.
People don’t remember what they were told, they remember how they felt/feel
February 1, 2011 3:45 am at 3:45 am #734027aries2756ParticipantI agree that a couple needs to get to know each other before the chasanah and more so they need to feel comfortable with each other. The excitement of getting engaged can fade and doubts can start playing havoc with the brain. As a couple get to know each other and start building a relationship together they get a better sense of security in their decision and better prepared for their marriage together.
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