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Everybody lies, but Democrats and the media are taking it to new heights. Despite ample video and textual evidence, they are trying to gaslight Americans by denying Harris was the border czar. Did they forget the interview with Lester Holt where he asked why she hadn’t been to the border?
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Was Biden(before they realized how bad he was) or Harris (before they realize how bad she is) fact checked, or is that only for people that they want out?
Do you mean like snopes who retracted four years after the statement that trump said “good people on both sides” meaning he supports white supremacy
CA: Go to WaPo archives and you will literally find multiple Fact-checking columns awarding both Biden and Harris multiple “Pinocchio” for misstatements, exaggerations, or straight out lies . Similar fact-checking efforts by WSJ and other media. Both OAN and NewsMax also do real time fact-checking of Biden when they even bother to cover him at all.
Its just that Trump does it so brazenly and talks over the interviewer when they attempt to follow up and clarify that its more obvious in real-time.I think I see what the issue is. I have two categories when it comes to lying-
(1). Those that don’t lie
(2). Those that do lie.You seem to have two categories as well albeit very different ones-
(1). Those who either lie like a politician or don’t lie
(2). Everyone else.There not much you can respond to the accusations as I gave you ample opportunities back then before recategorizing you. Apparently you felt that as long as your lies are delegitimizing someone who doesn’t agree with you then you’re right along with politicians.
Head over to the thread regarding politicizing tragedies from late Spring / early Summer of 2022 if you don’t recall what I’m referring to.
Biden dastardly claimed that no soldiers were killed while he was president, knowing good and well that 13 US Heroes died in his bungled Afghanistan withdrawal- and that their families were probably watching him live. I don’t care if you want to excuse that because it’s ok for politicians to talk like that – it’s very wrong.
Biden claiming that he only has six grandchildren to hide his son’s affair that the entire world already knows about is just cruel. Think of his poor grandkid who, besides being born into the most corrupt family in the US and now has her very own grandfather pretending that she’s insignificant and doesn’t exist. Are you justifying it because that’s how politicians are?
What about his outright lies regarding his son’s business and the bribes that made him a compromised president? Are you writing that off as well since it’s politics as usual?
Anyone who says that they weren’t going to vote for President Trump because he lies but was going to vote for Biden instead is seriously sick in the head.
I don’t know guys if you can convince each other, but can we agree on this:
apparently, Pres B was not in a good condition for a couple of years, getting worse with time, a lot of people suspected that, but
a “blue wall” of advisors together with media were able to maintain the mainstream view that the President is functioning OK…A day after Pres B admitted his condition, there were multiple well-sourced articles describing the situation. For example,
President visited Dem meeting in, I think, Oct 2021, to lobby for his infrastructure bill. Congressmen could not hear what he was saying,
and what they heard, was not comprehensible. After President left, Ms Pelosi got up and said “here is what President wanted to say” …
President did not speak to Congressmen after that. This was in front of 200 people and this did not become public knowledge. I think it
is frightening that the government can keep people reassured of a falsehood for quite some time. And if they were to ditch the debates, President would have made it to elections. Were he to have a better economy or suddenly a win in Ukraine, he could have won another term. So, now the group of people who created this charade (to include cabinet, VP Harris, D congressmen, media) are moving on to the next candidate without being
accountable for what they did. Ds would be better off at the convention by electing a clean candidate – Josh Shapiro or exCTL, for example.Whoever the Democratic nominee is, they’re going to win if Trump keeps taking the Dems bait and gets triggered the way he has
Trump’s vp candidate is a shevants.
Shevantx of Trump.
skripka > Trump keeps taking the Dems bait and gets triggered the way he has
It may not be that simple. T made a number of “questionable” and risky statements – and a number of them worked out well. Starting from his in-his-face attack on Jeb Bush during a debate that demolished Jeb! and made T the lead candidate; his seemingly offhand “what do you have to lose” to Black voters that is now acknowledged that he is picking up some Black and Latino votes. Note that Kamala tried a similar approach with her wild accusation against Biden for throwing her under the bus – and despite the plunge in popularity and hate from Jill – that made her VP and the candidate. Who laughs last … with an apology to her laugh
laskern,
One faults with their own faults, you shvantz!
Until this year nationally I would have considered myself a moderate democrat. In 2020 I voted for Biden. I despised Trump, but the anti-Trump legal proceedings plus the assasination attempt created sympathy for him from me.
When the race was Trump vs Biden I was gonna vote for Kennedy.
Israel & Kamala plus her general lack of qualifications and left wing radicalism leaves me no choice I’m all in on Trump. I’ve never even voted for a republican in a national election before!Kamala’s website has zero policy postitions!! She’s running on an empty platform of woke Identity politics.
Now most voters will not be voting based on Israel but I would never in a million years have thought I’d get on the Trump train. So the question is am I alone or are there others who generally vote centrist democrat who realize how radically left and incompetent she is?Be careful what you say as your dofi is showing..Remember I am not called Dofi, mecharef umegadef.
If Trump is the only one to vote for, I will skip voting. A lowlife cannot be voted for.
laskern,
As you love to say, “One faults with their own faults”, you lowlife!
Found the nekuda that explains what bothers me when reading Yidden arguing without integrity about politics or whose rebbe is bigger:
Berdichever (as quoted by R Twersky) says – if you are lying in non-religious matters, you are losing out on many mitzvos. For example, when you say “Shma Yisroel” it is your testimony of your emunah. But if you are known to lie, you are not believed in this testimony and you are losing out on kriyas shma [ AAQ: even if you say it b’zmono]
No one is going to convince anyone here about which Presidential candidate to vote for, or whether to vote at all. As some of us have been saying for a while, its tragic that a country of 380 million people has such terrible choices to make in November.
Gadol, I am kvetching not about convincing, I worry about people not even talking straight. If your don’t like your choices, think about 1+ bln Chinese whose choices are Xi and Xi.
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