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November 10, 2022 10:02 am at 10:02 am #21372301Participant
With my experience in dealing with morons in Bureaucracies like the DMV, IRS, and CUNY, how are we to believe blindly that there isn’t gross negligence with these polling stations that they aren’t miscounting votes?
Joseph Stalin 1879–1953
Soviet dictator
I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.
said in 1923; Boris Bazhanov The Memoirs of Stalin’s Former Secretary (1992); see StoppardThe Democrats want there to be distrust in our system in order to have people not turn out. How’s it sane to allow absentee ballots the way they are doing? COVID is one exception that shouldn’t have been the norm. No doubt these lefty communists learned a valuable lesson from Stalin.
November 10, 2022 11:50 am at 11:50 am #2137245moishekapoiehParticipanthey maga fanatic, would you ask the same questions if trump won big?
November 10, 2022 11:53 am at 11:53 am #2137247akupermaParticipantA test of election fraud is whether the results are consistent with what someone stuffing the ballot box would do. For example, how is it that Government Kemp in Georgia won a significant victory over a well funded and well know opponent, while Herschel Walker managed to come in second place. If the far left is stuffing ballot boxes, why did conservatives do well in New York. I have check Russian history, and except for the very last election held under Communists, the Communists typically got close to 100% of the votes.
Ballot stuffers don’t split their tickets. You never encountered some of the famous Democrat election cheats in the past (e.g.Tammany Hall in Manhattan), letting some Republicans win just for show.
While 2020 had a lot of believable anarchy since absentee ballot use was encouraged due to paranoia about Covid, especially among “blue” voters (since being paranoid about Covid generally correlates with “blueness” which is why absentee votes were more likely to be Democratic than those cast in person), the 2022 election was conducted with record breaking scrutiny.
The problem with the Trump fan club is there inability to understand that most Americans expect their leaders to act mentch-like, and someone who makes rude jokes and makes fun of people is not acting like a mentsch – which is why Trump’s support (and supporting Trump) was detrimental to Republican candidates.
November 10, 2022 11:59 am at 11:59 am #2137252moishekapoiehParticipantHey Maga fanatic, would you have asked all these questions if Trump was a big winner, instead of the pathetic lose that he is
November 10, 2022 12:08 pm at 12:08 pm #2137280lakewhutParticipantDemocrats thought 2000 and 2016 were rigged. We’re in the now.
November 10, 2022 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm #2137301ujmParticipantAnd Stacey Abrams was the founding election-deniar.
November 10, 2022 1:31 pm at 1:31 pm #21373221ParticipantAl Gore was
November 10, 2022 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #2137323Reb EliezerParticipantTrump as president was grossly incompetent by encouraging his best advisors to resign and fire them otherwise because he considered himself a stable genius. A smart person wants to hear the advice of others and not hire yes men. He had no political experience. He endorsed likewise a great football player which does not a senator make. Similarly, a TV doctor snake oil salesman does not make one either. J D Vance bought his position. The only good thing he did was the Abraham Accords. It is no wonder that he is being recognized as a loser.
November 10, 2022 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #2137328lakewhutParticipantWhy does a stroked out unemployed grifter make a senator?
November 10, 2022 1:41 pm at 1:41 pm #2137327lakewhutParticipantWhat about desantis? He’s pretty popular and propped up by Trump
November 10, 2022 3:04 pm at 3:04 pm #2137339Yserbius123ParticipantWhy does the Democrat insistence of allowing mail-in-ballots as an option cause “distrust” more so than the Republican insistence that there’s widespread voter fraud before a single ballot was counted?
November 10, 2022 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #21373661ParticipantBecause Republicans would be responsible to vote on Election Day, bring their IDs or have one in order to vote, and make sure their absentee ballots on time while democrats know a certain demographic within their base are less likely to follow the norms of voting.
November 10, 2022 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #2137402Reb EliezerParticipantI voted absentee. They can compare the signatures.
November 10, 2022 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #21374071ParticipantPeople don’ always have the same signatures
November 10, 2022 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #2137422ujmParticipant#1: Al Gore conceded, Stacey Abrams refused to concede and falsely claimed election fraud.
November 10, 2022 9:17 pm at 9:17 pm #2137433Reb EliezerParticipantStacey Abrams never conceded for the previous election but conceded for this election.
November 10, 2022 9:19 pm at 9:19 pm #2137430Reb EliezerParticipantujm, I am reading from yahoo news: Stacey Abrams conceded Georgia’s governor race to Brian Kemp on Tuesday night. Although some people seemed to gloss over the issue as an “oh well” situation, I think that Abrams deserved more.
November 10, 2022 10:42 pm at 10:42 pm #21374411ParticipantIn 2018 she never conceded. Democrats spent 4 years trying to prove Trump Russia collusion. Why is it taking so long to count these races? Democrat tricks?
November 11, 2022 8:10 am at 8:10 am #2137461lakewhutParticipantAbrams is a BLM communist RE why are you giving her the benefit of the doubt
November 11, 2022 12:15 pm at 12:15 pm #2137507jackkParticipantStacy Abrams is not BLM . Nor a communist.
Not every african american democrat is a BLM communist.
She does not need the benefit of the doubt because she was 100% correct in 2018.
It is Kemp that needs the benefit of the doubt against her charges.Comparing her refusal to concede in 2018 with what Trump and his party did in 2020 is comparing apples to bananas.
Abrams was running against Secretary of State Kemp who in his position of SOS had power over his own election.
That is a 100% conflict of interest and he should have recused himself from every election related issue. He didn’t.Abrams acknowledged her loss to Kemp days after the 2018 election. But she attributed that defeat — by less than 1.4 percentage points — to efforts by Kemp, to suppress voter turnout. Kemp denied the allegations.
“The issues that I raised in 2018 were not grounded in making me the governor,” Abrams told The 19th’s Editor-at-Large Errin Haines at a Monday event. “Not a single lawsuit filed would have reversed or changed the outcome of the election. My point was that the access to the election was flawed, and I refuse to concede a system that permits citizens to be denied access. That is very different than someone claiming fraudulent outcome.”
I gave this mashal before on YWN . If the Jews in Lakewood would have enough people to elect a Republican Governor, Murphy could simply assign one polling station for all of Lakewood, Toms River, Manchester and Jackson.
Or he could purge 100,000 jews from the voter rolls and when they show up to vote , the polling station says ” Sorry, go home and bring proof that you still live here and we will let you vote.”Or he could put their registration on hold due to the “exact match” law, which puts someone’s voting status on hold if the information they put on their registration form doesn’t exactly match their driver’s license or social security records.
That is exactly what Kemp did in 2018.
Did he legally win ? Yes. Did he prevent people from voting ? Yes.
Was it illegitimate ? yes.November 11, 2022 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm #2137520Reb EliezerParticipantI am an equal opportunity employer. I will give credit when credit is due and vice versa.
November 11, 2022 12:16 pm at 12:16 pm #2137522Amil ZolaParticipantLakewhut, I live in Oregon, a state with legal weed. I often wonder what flavor of the devils lettuce you are smoking. I don’t think I’d want to be that distanced from reality, but now that I’m fighting another round of cancer that info could ultimately be helpful to me personally (not politically).
November 11, 2022 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #2137538philosopherParticipantAmil Zola, you should have a complete refuah sheleimah.
November 11, 2022 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #2137539philosopherParticipantjackk, aha, you sticking up for the complete meshuganna Stacy Abrams shows how you can downplay the fact that Democrats do not want ID requirements when voting. You need ID when you travel, you need ID to open a bank account, you need ID to obtain a driver’s license, etc.etc, but when you vote it is magically racist to have to show ID; all of a sudden there are so many disadvantaged blacks and Hispanics that can’t show their ID…
November 13, 2022 12:41 pm at 12:41 pm #2137749lakewhutParticipantJackk the Democrat communist hackk is there a Democrat position you won’t defend?
November 13, 2022 2:40 pm at 2:40 pm #2137771hujuParticipantTo lakewhut: Is there a Democratic position you would support, e.g, more taxes on persons with annual incomes over $400,000, more support for social security trust fund, et al.?
November 13, 2022 3:32 pm at 3:32 pm #2137780philosopherParticipanthuju, no logical person would defend any Democrat position which is going to bring us neverending inflation, “legal” child abuse, election fraud, etc.etc. our country is headed to the edge of the cliff and then…
November 13, 2022 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #2137781Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipanthuju, I don’t know about lakewhut but why would someone with economic knowledge support more taxes on people with some income? These people are already paying more in taxes that those below (as our taxes are proportional). If you think things are not fair “enough”, why not propose a compromise like “less taxers for those with income below”, such as decreasing further 10K SALT limitation that was introduced in 2017 and is obviously piad by rich people?
November 13, 2022 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #2137816lakewhutParticipantHuju I don’t support that because that reduces incentives for businesses to invest in capital. Europe is about to be out of energy due to their stagnating socialist policy.
November 13, 2022 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #2137817lakewhutParticipantHuju do you know what property and payroll taxes are?
November 14, 2022 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #2138055hujuParticipantI suppose I should be flattered that 4 commenters are asking me questions , but I am too tire or lazy, to give the lessons they could have gotten in Economics 101.
November 14, 2022 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #2138072jackkParticipantLakewhut,
If you make a logical argument against a democratic position maybe we can discuss it.
The Republicans know only how to point out issues but have absolutely zero ability to solve them.
November 14, 2022 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #2138140lakewhutParticipantSome of the “issues” that Democrats make up shouldn’t be mainstream issues. Democrats support every abomination. They push being trans as mainstream. They think it’s a good idea to have draq Queens at schools. The Democrat way of everything is make more legislation thus creating new problems.
November 14, 2022 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #2138162Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipantjackk > know only how to point out issues but have absolutely zero ability to solve them.
Jackk, it is understandable you are confused. Republicans prefer giving people freedom to act on their own, so it is hard to see the connection. Dems prefer “hands on” approaches, as Reagan said “I am from the government and I am here to help you”. “sometimes” solutions do not work, so there is even more effort, and then another effort to solve problems created by the first effort, so everyoe is very grateful “for the effort”.
Here is an example for you to ponder: Pres Obama suggested that private lenders are wasting money, so government will save a lot of money by making student loans by itself. This “helped” to get money for other spending priorities. Several years passed, and now Pres Biden uses the fact that the loans are now in gov hands – to simply forgive them. Forget all the promised “savings”.
November 14, 2022 5:54 pm at 5:54 pm #2138164Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant> more taxes on persons with annual incomes … more support
> but I am too tire or lazy,As Berdichever would say – look how honest Democrats are: they will even admit that they want to take from others and do not want to think about it.
November 14, 2022 10:27 pm at 10:27 pm #2138255Dr. PepperParticipantInteresting choice of words- but again you purposely left out the critical points. I’ll rewrite your last sentence with the missing words.
The Republicans know <not> only how to point out issues <but to solve them as well> but <unfortunately> have absolutely zero ability to solve them <while the Democrats, who are intent on destroying the country and implementing their perverted ways, are in control of the White House, Senate and Congress>.
There, I fixed it for you.
November 15, 2022 2:22 am at 2:22 am #2138294Yserbius123ParticipantI don’t like Stacy Adams, but she stood up for Israel and against anti-Semitism in ways that her progressive fanbase did not. For that alone, I don’t think we should talk bad about her.
November 22, 2022 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #2141485Amil ZolaParticipant1 it sounds like you don’t have much experience with vote by mail. I’ve been voting by mail for decades. One year after hand surgery my signatures didn’t match and I got a text, phone call and email telling the same. It was a simple matter providing an exemplar and signing an affidavit.
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