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Ubiq -“you can’t have a “proceeding before a judge” if there are only judges.”
They do this all the time.
People make motions and later on the Judge reads them and decides the next step.
It’s happened to me dozens of times.
It’s obvious that you never had a Court case!“This is EXACTLY what happens. (there is no court case, there are no hearings) they read the motions and make decisions”
You have to read the legal definition. This is called a hearing. Yes, when e/o is present it’s also called a hearing.“you called me a liar for my correct prediction”
I called you a Liar, because at that time no one could know for sure what will happen, ie it’s possible there are exceptions in this case Not to declare that it is Moot!
“At conference could they provide a ruling on the actual case. IE overrule or uphold the lower courts decision or are there limits on their “judgement” ?”
Technically they could, but they have their Rules – one day for conference, and one day for arguments.
“People make motions and later on the Judge reads them and decides the next step.”
Sure it happens.
This was never in dispute
But The judge reading the motion on his own is not a “court case” nor a “hearing”“It’s obvious that you never had a Court case!”
true“You have to read the legal definition.”
do you have another definition? the one you provided earlier defined “hearing” they way I understood it. A hearing involves “evidence and/or argument presented” before the judges. Not judges reading motions or petitions on their own.but ok, If your using your own definition of hearign, thats fine.
This is the part that I find more interesting:
“I called you a Liar, because at that time no one could know for sure what will happen, ie it’s possible there are exceptions in this case Not to declare that it is Moot!”
are you using your own definition of “Liar”?
I’m not familiar with this one.
Could you provide a source that defines “Liar” as Correctly predicting something that “at that time no one could know for sure what will happen,”
I have never heard a Liar defined this way. Is it the Legal definition? Maybe from Secret Supreme court?Yes it was theoretically possible (keep in mind 3 justices voted to hear it) for me to have been wrong. And the court to have agreed to hear the case
but as I predicted, they didn’t agree to hear it.If the court granted Ceartiori, and agreed to hear the case, then perhaps I lied (we can quibble If I was mistaken or lying,)
But they didn’t, SO I was right.
What definition of “liar” are you using?Ubiq -“A hearing involves “evidence and/or argument presented” before the judges. Not judges reading motions or petitions on their own.”
Yes, that’s your mistake!
It doesn’t have to be presented at the time of Hearing.
As a matter of fact, it’s usually way before the Hearing!
But you are correct, it is presented by the litigants.“are you using your own definition of “Liar”?
What definition of “liar” are you using?”There are 4 types of Lies – White ones, gray ones, black ones, red ones.
You did a Black one:
From Changingminds.org:
“Black lie:
Black lies are about simple and callous selfishness. We tell black lies when others gain nothing and the sole purpose is either to get ourselves out of trouble (reducing harm against ourselves) or to gain something we desire (increasing benefits for ourselves).” (Me – like pretending to be a Know – It – All.)
“The worst black lies are very harmful for others. Perhaps the very worst gain us a little yet harm others a great deal”From previous:
“I called you a Liar, because at that time no one could know for sure what will happen, ie – it’s possible there are exceptions in this case – Not to declare that it is Moot!”“There are 4 types of Lies – White ones, gray ones, black ones, red ones”
Interesting source.
but these are 4 types of LIES.
I did not lie at all
What I told you was true.I am not familiar with the definition of “lie” you are using
you said :
““I called you a Liar, because at that time no one could know for sure what will happen, ie – it’s possible there are exceptions in this case – Not to declare that it is Moot!””Yes I know what happened.
But the court DID declare it moot I was right. I am not familiar with a defintion of “lie” that would include my having told the truth as being a “lie” simply becasue you don;’t thik I should have been so sure.I asked this before
If I tell you there will be a tornado tomorrow. I have absolutely know way of knowing this* I straight up made it up, lets say I got it from I don;t know Goyishe prophets.
But lo and behold there was a tornado.
did I lie?(* note: this is not at all analogous to our case since I had good reason to know the court wouldnt take the case In fact AFTER the court declined to hear the case you said you too new, as I did: “I and a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved.”)
Ubiq -“Yes I know what happened.
But the court DID declare it moot I was right. I am not familiar with a defintion of “lie” that would include my having told the truth as being a “lie” simply becasue you don;’t thik I should have been so sure.”Yes, this is called Lying!
I’m not sure why you do it, but I posted a theory above:
I’ll quote it again:
“Black lies are about simple and callous selfishness. We tell black lies when others gain nothing and the sole purpose is … to gain something we desire (increasing benefits for ourselves).”From the Hopeline:
“8 different lies people tell:
The Lie of Fabrication
Fabrication is telling others something you don’t know for sure is true.”Just because it became true, at the time you told it – it was called “The Lie of Fabrication”!
Health
“I’ll quote it again:”
I already told you why that defitnion didnt help (namely it is a type of LIE ie it is a type of untruth, what I told you was true.
Posting it again doesn’t add anything.
“The Lie of Fabrication”
Again this is posting a type of “LIE” what I told was not a lie at all. By any definition I can find .
You cut off the end of the defintion there “…Fabrications are extremely hurtful because they lead to rumors that can damage someone else’s reputation. Spreading rumors is not only a lie but is also stealing another’s reputation. Paul wrote: I admit that I love spreading rumors. It’s all about telling lies about someone you don’t like. It usually works.”
This is not at all the subject at hand. (This is called a lie of omission leaving out information)So anyway going with your definition
I asked this before (twice before)
If I tell you there will be a tornado tomorrow. I have absolutely know way of knowing this* I straight up made it up, lets say I got it from I don’t know Goyishe prophets.
But lo and behold there was a tornado.
did I lie?Moreover using your “lie of fabrication” defitnion the way you are. Ever ytime the weatehr report says “there will be sun tomorrow etc” It is a lie. Even if they were right. since obviosuly they cant be 100% certain.
Is this what you are saying?Ubiq -“I already told you why that defitnion didnt help (namely it is a type of LIE ie it is a type of untruth, what I told you was true.”
You keep saying that I should apologize.
No, you should!
Almost e/o knew that they could declare the motion as moot.
So what was your intention to your original post?!?
Again you don’t understand Simple things.
It was a LIE, at the time of your OP!“You cut off the end of the defintion there “…Fabrications are extremely hurtful because they lead to rumors that can damage someone else’s reputation. Spreading rumors is not only a lie but is also stealing another’s reputation.”
Of course I cut off that part!
It’s Not part of the definition, it’s an example.
That example doesn’t apply here.As much as your Gaiva doesn’t let you admit that you’re Wrong – I’ll repeat it:
“The Lie of Fabrication”
“Fabrication is telling others something you don’t know for sure is true.”“Almost e/o knew that they could declare the motion as moot.”
Lol!
you didint
even after I told you they would. yo udindt say maybe I was right, but I didnt know for sure./ yo usaid I was a liar and that Trump still had a chance. You cited Goyish prophets to buttress your claim.“So what was your intention to your original post?!?”
quite simple really
I have an absulte fasciation with people that can look at black and say its white.
Ive mentioned this before disagreeing over ordinary things doesnt intrest me. Is Pizza better or Ice cream, you like Pizza I like ice cream. there is no right/wrong thats boringThis is what interests me. There was no chance of Trump winning (certainly not by Jan 18 when you STILL called me a liar)
Most people would say wow I hoped he would win, sadly I was wrong.
but not you you double down reinterpret . Even the word “liar” you cam up with a new defitnion for
I find it fascinating“It’s Not part of the definition, it’s an example.”
Lol! An example of the defitnion.
If it isn’t a lie, it isn’t a “lie of fabrication”
Did you really never learn the difference between Motzei shem Ra and Lashan Hara?while we are repeating:
I asked this before (three times before this is the 4th)
If I tell you there will be a tornado tomorrow. I have absolutely know way of knowing this* I straight up made it up, lets say I got it from I don’t know Goyishe prophets.
But lo and behold there was a tornado.
did I lie?and (2nd time)
Moreover using your “lie of fabrication” definition the way you are. Every time the weather report says “there will be sun tomorrow etc” It is a lie. Even if they were right. since obviosuly they cant be 100% certain.
Is this what you are saying?Ubiq -“even after I told you they would. yo udindt say maybe I was right, but I didnt know for sure.”
I don’t lie, like you do.
Just because I thought it was a good possibility, I’m not going to agree with s/o who wrote that he Knows for Sure!“If it isn’t a lie, it isn’t a “lie of fabrication”.”
I didn’t write that – Hopeline did.
“8 different lies people tell:
Take it up with them.
Since you’re the Know – It – All.“Lol! An example of the defitnion.”
Your lack of understanding of Simple things is amazing.
No where does it say – it’s the only example!“Every time the weather report says “there will be sun tomorrow etc” It is a lie. Even if they were right. since obviosuly they cant be 100% certain.
Is this what you are saying?”Stop proving that you can’t Comprehend Very Simple Things!
I’ll answer this time, but no more.
I’m Not your Kindergarten teacher!
E/o knows when a weather man makes a prediction, that it’s just that.
No one thinks it’s definitely gonna happen.
But your post was different than e/o’s thought process.
E/o thought that SCOTUS could rule that the case is moot, but you said they will!
This is a Lie of Fabrication!
Instead of thinking what to post to me Next – How about picking up a Mussar Sefer?!?“I don’t lie, like you do.”
Lol if by “Lie ” you mean be correct. then you are right, almost nothing you have said on this thread has been true.
“Just because I thought it was a good possibility, ”
Lol on Jan 18 Yo uwere not sure!
“I’m not going to agree with s/o who wrote that he Knows for Sure!”
you disnt have to agree. but saying “Your a liar” when you really meant “I think theres a good possiblity you are right but don’ t be so sure” is hilarious.“I didn’t write that – Hopeline did.
”no hopeline didint
They listed ” “8 different lies people tell:”
These are different types of “lies” Not different types of truths
a Lie by definition is something not true.
For example You misrepresenting what Hopeline wrote is a lie. You arent telling the truth.“Take it up with them.”
I dont have a question for them.
(and besides they aren’t as authorative as you seem to think. have you even heard of them before? )“No one thinks it’s definitely gonna happen.
But your post was different than e/o’s thought process.”Lolololol YOU said you also thought it could happen ! in htat same post “Just because I thought it was a good possibility, ”
you are easily my favorite poster. I wish you only success in life” but you said they will!”
And they didThe word for that is truth.
” How about picking up a Mussar Sefer?!?”
Our conversations are the best mussar.
The depths people can go to to not say “I’m sorry I called you a lair”:
Reinterpreting “lie”
Contradicting your own posts “Just because I thought it was a good possibility,”.. vs .”. But your post was different than e/o’s thought process.”Ubiq -“Lol if by “Lie ” you mean be correct. then you are right, almost nothing you have said on this thread has been true.”
Ya See, I’m not like you that has to always to be correct, as long as I don’t end up being a Liar.
Ya See, you can end up being correct & a Liar.
To me – Lying is much worse than always being Right!
That’s why I said go Learn some Mussar – your priorities are Messed up!“when you really meant “I think theres a good possiblity you are right but don’ t be so sure” is hilarious.”
When I talk to people that just need correcting – I’d talk like that.
When I talk to Ballai Gaiva, it’s more Strong!“They listed ” “8 different lies people tell:”
“These are different types of “lies” Not different types of truths
a Lie by definition is something not true”I know that you won’t ever admit that you’re Wrong, but here’s what they wrote:
“The Lie of Fabrication”
“Fabrication is telling others something you don’t know for sure is true.”At the time you made the Fabrication, you didn’t know for sure that it would come True!
Eg. S/o says Joe stole a bike & later on you found out he was correct.
S/o says SCOTUS will declare a case moot & later on you found out he was correct.
Both of these cases are the Lie of Fabrication!
It’s sad that you can’t see beyond your own Nose!“as long as I don’t end up being a Liar.”
Oy hasn’t been working out
“Ya See, you can end up being correct & a Liar.”
How?““The Lie of Fabrication”
“Fabrication is telling others something you don’t know for sure is true.””You cut of the rest. ThAT is a type of lie btw.
By definition a lie isnt true (happy to provide a source – a normal one like a dictionary)
If I say “today is Thursday”
Which of the 8 lies is that?
Obviously its none (even if I’m 100% sure its Thursday) simply because its true.On the other hand if I say something untrue like “Health is making a good point ” clearly that’s a lie, it isn’t true.
So we can look to the list of lies to see what type it is.
But you can’t look to a list of lies to categorize a true statement“At the time you made the Fabrication, you didn’t know for sure that it would come True!”
No I was 99.99999% sure. (Even if I was wrong, I’d say I was wrong not necessarily a lie, but it would be reasonable to call it a lie in that case)
“Eg. S/o says Joe stole a bike & later on you found out he was correct.”
Ummm yes obviously that person told the truth. I never in my wildest dreams thought that would be controversial .
Even if it was a flat out guess. He never met or heard of Joe.
If he was right he was right its not a lie.
No one would possibly entertain the thought that he “lied” if he was right“S/o says SCOTUS will declare a case moot & later on you found out he was correct.”
Ditto“Both of these cases are the Lie of Fabrication”
Um no neither are cases of lying of say kind
“It’s sad that you can’t see beyond your own Nose!”
Lol!
Part 2
“When I talk to people that just need correcting – I’d talk like that.
When I talk to Ballai Gaiva, it’s more Strong!”Lol
It doesn’t come off strong .It comes of foolish
See because of that absurd assertion
now you have to dig through the internet, misconstrue a type of lie from a non-authorativie website to try to save face.
and it only makes you look worse(not that this absurd conversation reflects to great on me either…)
a more normal approach would have been to be clear from the get go.Also why don’t you give me the benefit of the doubt.
when you said something untrue I didn’t call you a liar It was a mistake big deal people are wrong all the time. Ive been wrong. Theres no shame in that.And here I didn’t say something untrue. What I said was completely true.
Referring to this:
You had said: ““At that time I didn’t read her file – so I didn’t know that her motion contained her evidence.”I replied: “Lol. so when you said “she will provide evidence” You were lying correct? ( To be clear: you are big on calling people liars, I dont think you were lying (then) . I think you were simply mistaken, and perhaps hopeful that somehow things would go your way. “)
Why don’t you do the same?
Even if Thomas et al won the day. and Scotus took the case. which would have made me wrong. completely wrong.
Still say “thats ok, you made a mistake”Ubiq -“authorativie website to try to save face.
and it only makes you look worse”I did look for it and you are clearly a Manipulative Liar!
I take that as a Threat -“it only makes you look worse”.When you posted that SCOTUS will declare it moot, it was a Lie of Fabrication!
From Psychology.wikia.com
“Fabrication
A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”From Vocabulary.com:
Plausible:
“If something is plausible, it’s reasonable or believable. Things that are plausible could easily happen. A woman becoming President is very plausible. A giraffe becoming President is not.”So the fact that it came true, doesn’t mean that you’re Not a Manipulative Liar!
“I take that as a Threat -“it only makes you look worse”.”
You must be redefining “threat”
“A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.””
Exactly as Ive been telling you “A fabrication is a lie ”
so what is a fabrication?
“A fabrication is a lie ”Oh so if you tell the truth, but are overly confident, is that a fabrication??
No ” A fabrication is a lie ”Thank you for the exceelent source.
while we are quoting excellent sources lets define lie (noun)
vocabulary.com:
“a statement that deviates from or perverts the truth”dictionary.com:
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression;imposture:
His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3. an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood.
4. the charge or accusation of telling a lie:Websters:
1a: an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker or writer to be untrue with intent to deceive
b: an untrue or inaccurate statement that may or may not be believed true by the speaker or writer
2: something that misleads or deceives
3: a charge of lyingOxford:
1 an intentionally false statement.
2 used with reference to a situation involving deception or founded on a mistaken impression.There is simply NO defitnion of “lie” that includes a truthful statement.
“So the fact that it came true, doesn’t mean that you’re Not a Manipulative Liar!”
It means EXACTLY that. Truth is the exact opposite of a lie.
Ubiq -“Exactly as Ive been telling you “A fabrication is a lie ”
You forgot to quote the whole line.
Don’t worry, I’ll do it for you.
“A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.”“while we are quoting excellent sources lets define lie (noun)”
Like I said – you’re a Manipulative Liar!
You quoted the definition of a Regular Lie.
My definition was on a Psychological Pathological meaning!
“From Psychology.wikia.com”
“Fabrication”Health
“A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.”
correct
but it is not
A fabrication is a truth told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.and speaking of “forgetting” to quote the whole line
The definition of fabrication (again a type of lie, NOT a type of truth) contiues … ” it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”
You seem confused as to how defitnions work. you cant just splice out one phrase and if that fits then the definition holds
Lets see how my truthful statement “The supreme court will dismiss the case as moot ” compares to the definition .Here is the entire defitnion:
A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.“A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth,” – No My statement was NOT a lie
” without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. ” – Yes I wasn’t certain it would be correct, though I was close to certain, and by Jan 18 I was near certain
“Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact.” – No my statement was based on fact
” Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.” – No my statement was not a misrepresentation of the truth.So even if the sentence ” without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true” holds up, NONE of the other 3 do.
Health
question:
On another page
someone wrote :
“It was a prediction. You can make that prediction not come true if you so desire.”In your view that person is a “liar”, whether or not his prediction comes true.
correct?(This question belongs on this thread not that, and that thread has some normal comments still, I don’t want to ruin it
and note: in my view it isnt a “lie” in either case if true obviously it isn’t a lie by defitnion, and even if not true , its a prediction one that has reasonable grounding in reality predictions aren’t lies even if they don’t materialize. but as mentioned I suppose this is debatable )
Ubiq -“Lets see how my truthful statement “The supreme court will dismiss the case as moot”
When you keep trying to defend yourself, it seems that you’re trying to Manipulate that it Wasn’t a Lie of Fabrication.
Yes, it was. Because at the time of your post, No one, even individual Justices could know what the outcome would be.
So at the time of your post – it was Lie of Fabrication!Again:
“From Psychology.wikia.com
“Fabrication
A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”
From Vocabulary.com:
Plausible:
“If something is plausible, it’s reasonable or believable. Things that are plausible could easily happen. A woman becoming President is very plausible. A giraffe becoming President is not.”“So the fact that it came true, doesn’t mean that you’re Not a Manipulative Liar!”
nothing new in this last comment
Usually you try to post a new nuance or something
now you’re just repeating untruths that have already been replied to.
what gives?
and besides you are (as you often do) contradicting yourself
you say “No one, even individual Justices could know what the outcome would be.”
yet earlier you said: “.*.. a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved.”All I did was tell you what you later acknowledged “a lot of people realized”
(*I truncated this sentence because I didn’t want to repeat a lie, the words missing make this true statement untrue)
Ubiq -“you say “No one, even individual Justices could know what the outcome would be.”
yet earlier you said: “.*.. a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved.”
“All I did was tell you what you later acknowledged “a lot of people realized””I’m Not doing this anymore!
I’m Not your Kindergarten Teacher!“truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.”
Why do I have to explain you simple things?!?
This statement -“The supreme court will dismiss the case as moot”, is saying for Certain!I realized this “.*.. a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved.”
But if I would have posted it – I’d say – I think a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved!““The supreme court will dismiss the case as moot”, is saying for Certain!”
Yes becasue I was certain (as near certain as humanly possible for such a prediction)
AND was right.You called me a liar.
Even though I was right
“I realized this …”
Lol
not only didn’t you post “I think a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved!”
In fact you posted the opposite “Look – I told you many times that the Goyishe Prophets predicted Trump will have a 2nd term. IDK how it will work out, but I don’t count them out – that they aren’t telling the Truth!”and this was on Jan 18th!
you were still giving credence to goyish prophets that Trump would get a second term (starting Jan 20th 2021 clearly in context that is what was being discussed, if you claim you meant 2024 well, look up your 8 types of lies and see if you can figure out which that would be )
you didnt call them liars even though they were certian (and wrong)you also wrote on Jan 18th “I have no idea what will come next,”
whcih is fine. you don’t follow politics so closely, and/or were blinded by love for Trump that you were stil hoping ofr a miracle.
Theres no shame thereI had neither of those problems so I knew what “a lot of people realized ” and CORRECTLY (note: opposite of lie) told you what would happen
No need to do this anymore, and I surely I dont need you to teach me anything
all that’s left is for you to say
“I’m sorry I called you a liar, when you told the truth”Ubiq -““I’m sorry I called you a liar, when you told the truth”
That’s you to do – Stop Lying!
“Yes becasue I was certain (as near certain as humanly possible for such a prediction)
AND was right.”
Just because we’re right – Doesn’t mean that your Not a Liar of
Fabrication?!?
Did you pass Elementary School?
Because you have No reading comprehension!
Go back and try to Understand those definitions.“Just because we’re right – Doesn’t mean that your Not a Liar of
Fabrication?!?”Literally means that.
Its in the title
LIAR of fabrication. – See if you can spot the word that excludes truth.
(BTW it wasn’t “fabrication” either since i had reason to think that. One of the definitions you gave that proved you wrong, (thank you for taking the time to provide it) used “the dog ate my homework” as an example. Say the dog was rummaging around in his knapsack chewed up some papers. The boy gets to school looks through the bag finds some half chewed spelling test and homework is missing. Teacher asks “where’s your homework?” The boy says “the dog ate my homework” This isn’t a fabrication at all. This is the likely scenario. (Now it may or may not be true, say he gets home and turns out homework was still on the kitchen table) but clearly not a “fabrication” a fabrication is “it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, ” his assumption WAS based on fact.
Now fabrication is a much harder word to understand than “lie” so if Lie is giving you so much trouble I don’t fully expect you to understand this. but it is worth pointing out. That aside for not having Lied (since I told the truth) It wasn’t a fabrication either (since I had reason to beleive as I did, it WAS based on fact)Ubiq -“LIAR of fabrication. – See if you can spot the word that excludes truth”
Your Manipulating Skills won’t work with me!
It’s So sad that you’re so used to behavior like this.
It’s a Shame no one ever stood up to you, until Now!Like I wrote previously:
“You quoted the definition of a Regular Lie.
My definition was on a Psychological Pathological meaning!”“It’s So sad that you’re so used to behavior like this.”
It is sad. But I often wonder if people can change, I wouldn’t say I’m used to it. I am honestly surprised
Sure You’ve been exposed as a liar on multiple threads in the past. But you always had some wiggle room a claim that there is a secret supreme court case out there that even lawyers can’t find or a claim that somewhere there is some secret first aid guide that would be illegal to be cited (!!!) that has your made up EMT guideline.I can’t PROVE that such a book doesn’t exist (though we both know it doesn’t)
But here I can PROVE you wrong
black and white
No wiggle roomThe definition of “liar” is clear I quoted multiple dictionaries
You quoted several sources that didn’t contradict anything I’ve said As explained at length on multiple occasionsI made a prediction
You said I was lying
My prediction came true.
Periodfor most people that would be the end “Wow you were right, I’m sorry I called you a liar”
I did not imagine a person could literally redefine “liar” to avodi the aboveYet here we are. I was wrong.
So while I agree that this discussion and interaction is quite sad.
I do find it absolutely fascinating
Thank you for participating (not being facetious, I really enjoyed your responses thank you for taking the time to write them and thanks mods for your time as well )
Ubiq -“The definition of “liar” is clear I quoted multiple dictionaries
You quoted several sources that didn’t contradict anything I’ve said As explained at length on multiple occasions”Idk, how you claim to have Higher Education, when you don’t understand things that they teach in Elementary School?!?
Definitions are based on the Subject.
There are regular definitions and Subject definitions.
For example, Computer science has a word called Byte.
The “Lie of Fabrication” is defined in Psychology, Not in Regular English. I’ve posted this definition already many times!
You keep writing your Nonsense.
Is it because you’re Clueless or keep on Trying to Manipulate E/O?!?Health
“Definitions are based on the Subject.”
Yes that’s true
Though also context.so for example. If two friends are discussing whether a case will get heard, and one insists it will and the other says “no it will be dismissed as being moot”. first guy says “it will be heard you are a liar”
Clearly he didn’t mean “I’m not sure if it will be heard, and you are telling the truth but you are too sure of yourself”For that person to later claim oh I meant a different definition of “lie” (even if such a defitnion existed) I meant the definition that means being too sure of yourself (!!!!) clearly in context that is NOT what the meant (again even if there was such a definition which of course there isnt)
“For example, Computer science has a word called Byte.”
IT sure does and if you look it up in ANY standard dictionary , you will find it.and lets use this excellent example. If I say “I’m hungry I could go for a bīt (bite)” It would be silly for you to suggest I was asking for computer storage
Even though that IS technically a definition of bīt (byte)
context, my friend“The “Lie of Fabrication” is defined in Psychology, Not in Regular English. I’ve posted this definition already many times!”
yes you have, and as ALL the definitions noted it is a “Type of lie” NOT a type of truth
furthermore as explained It involves a “fabrication” I didn’t fabricate anything, I had good reason to believe as I did
(did you really miss all those times, you never replied to them, you are just repeating the same old nonsense)“You keep writing your Nonsense. Is it because you’re Clueless or keep on Trying to Manipulate E/O?!?”
So its neither,
but I am a patient teacher.See the problem with calling my truthful statement a “Lie of fabrication”
Is that it is NEITHER a lie NOR a fabricationIF ANY point still confuses you let me know which I’m happy to elaborate.
You know I love our conversations, so I hope you don’t take this personally but if you just
“Definitions are based on the Subject.”
True
and also context“For example, Computer science has a word called Byte.”
Yes this is readily available in any dictionary. Yet mysteriously the defitnion of Lie” that includes truth can’t be found in any dictionary.
and even if there was such a definition (which again there isn’t) we would determine based on context what you meant.
If I said “I’m hungry lets go for a bīt (bite)” nobody would think I wanted more computer storage. Although yes bīt (byte) does mean computer storage (as can be seen in any dictionary no need to dig through the internet for obscure pseudorefrences which we could truncate half of the defitnion out of context) clearly in context thats not what you meant
“I’ve posted this definition already many times!”
yes and EACH time Ive explained to you why you are misunderstanding it.
My “lie of fabrication” was neither a lie nor a fabricationOne of the examples you cite used “My dog ate my homework” as an example of a “lie of fabrication”
Are you saying even if a dog really ate my homework it is a “lie of fabrication” for me to say that?“You keep writing your Nonsense.
Is it because you’re Clueless or keep on Trying to Manipulate E/O?!?”
Neither it is becasue I am a patient teacher, AND becasue Im curious to what extent you will go to rewrite realityUbiq -“so for example. If two friends are discussing whether a case will get heard, and one insists it will and the other says “no it will be dismissed as being moot”. first guy says “it will be heard you are a liar”
It’s very hard to converse with you, because you constantly Lie!
Yes, we did have a back & forth about the word “Heard”.
But what you’re posting Now is a complete Lie!
Let me refresh your Memory.
The Very first time you mentioned the word “moot”, is the following on page 3:“Even if someone was in denial until now. That denial should be gone. The Supreme court doesn’t hear cases that are moot, ie theoretical cases with no practical ramification (Article III section 2 of the constitution limits court’s scope to “cases & controversies” . Any election litigation is now theoretical Biden won (even if unfairly) There is a zero percent chance that the case will be heard.
Zero”Then you posted this:
“When case will be thrown out as moot (previous statement was fact, this is opinion (for now)).”Why mention “opinion”?
Because you started feeling Guilty on your First Paragraph, because it was a Lie of Fabrication!“becasue Im curious to what extent you will go to rewrite reality”
It’s a Shame that you keep trying to Manipulate & Change the Reality!
“The Very first time you mentioned the word “moot”, is the following on page 3:”
Yes thats true.
and , as mentioned in that same comment, is WHY “They won’t [hear the case] as I’ve been trying to tell you for months. (as in fact happeend)Worth noting, you did not say Oh thats true, or oh that might happen, or “oh but that still counts as a hearing.
You did NONE of those things . You replied with “Look – I told you many times that the Goyishe Prophets predicted Trump will have a 2nd term.”
And later that same day “I have no idea what will come next, but what I know is that you are a Compulsive Liar!”“Why mention “opinion”?”
becasue you have a loose grip on realty. As late as Jan 18 you still had “no idea” who would get sworn in on Jan 20. not “well probably Biden but anything is possible” You had “No idea”and yes, obviously it was an opinion, in case you didn’t realize it I pointed it out
Though doesn’t that make it NOT a “lie of fabrication” using your wrong definition? I pointed out that it was my opinion (albeit one that I was nearly certain about).I’m trying to understand your “lie of fabrication” one of your “definitions” used “The Dog ate my homework” as an example. In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place:
1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
in which if these 6 cases 1, 2a 2b 3a 3b and 4 would you say a Lie of fabrication took place?
I’ll help you out
1 – YES this is the example they mean, the guy straight out made it up and it was a lie that he fabricated
2a. – No, he didn’t tell a lie
2b. YES although theoretically possible that isn’t what happened it is a lie he fabricated, or a lie of fabrication
3a. No – It was neither a lie nor a fabrication. He had good reason to believe as he did, and it is what happened
3b. No Although it wasn’t true I don’t think it was a “lie” since it wasn’t with malicious intent (though as mentioned this point is debatable) Regardless it certainly wasn’t a fabrication. so even if it was a lie, it wasn’t fabricated
4 – No this is the truth neither a lie nor fabricatonDo you disagree with any of the above?
Next question will be with which was my statement
“There is a zero percent chance that the case will be heard. Zero ” Most similar ?Ubiq -“and , as mentioned in that same comment, is WHY “They won’t [hear the case] as I’ve been trying to tell you for months. (as in fact happeend)”
E/O thought that, but you decided to inform e/o.
Btw, they Did Hear it.
Stop thinking that you’re a Know it All.
You think that Only you know what’s the SCOTUS gonna do, but you never took a case to them, like I did!“Why mention “opinion”?”
“becasue you have a loose grip on realty”LOL!
Don’t put what you do on me!
The reason I mentioned “Opinion” from you later on that page, because even you realized there was something Wrong with your first paragraph!
I still think that you’re in Some Sort of Denial!Let me me reiterate to you:
You have abnormal psychological statements – in this case it’s called the Lie of Fabrication!“because even you realized there was something Wrong with your first paragraph!”
not really
If anything it proves the exact oppositeOpinion, was a bad word to use, perhaps prediction would have been better. sorry if it caused any confusion.
I had to spell out for you the difference between fact and opinion. because you have trouble with the 2. for example you think the definition of words like “lie” are subject to opinion.
Most people know when, say the weather person predicts rain tomorrow. He doesnt say “I think” its a prediction. (note : not a fabrication the two are not interchangeable even though he isnt 100% sure of what will happen) .
I’m still working on the “lie of fabrication ” stuff could you help me out
I’m trying to understand your “lie of fabrication” one of your “definitions” used “The Dog ate my homework” as an example. In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place:
1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
in which if these 6 cases 1, 2a 2b 3a 3b and 4 would you say a Lie of fabrication took place?
(note: and this is important while these example should help you realize the error of your misinterpretation they are not directly analogous. Mine is more similar to “the dog will eat my homework” but that wasn’t the example, its best if we stick to the example from the source you provided)
Ubiq -“I’m still working on the “lie of fabrication ” stuff could you help me out”
For the hundredth time – it’s Not a regular definition, although it could be, because eventually they incorporate Subject Meanings into Regular Dictionaries.
The “Lie of Fabrication” is a definition in psychology.
To be more specific – it’s a Definition of Abnormal Psychology!Yes Health I know its a not a regular definition, and is a defintion you made up (and sort of found a source that part of which kind of sounds like what you claim when taken out of context)
“because eventually they incorporate Subject Meanings into Regular Dictionaries.”
Lol!In your book this is a Lie of fabrication. Even if they do (they won’t), you don’t KNOW that they will.
So do I have it right? Did you just tell a lie of fabrication (regardless of whether it turns is true) ?Also regarding this lie of fabrication, still trying to undertsand fully
in addition to the above
In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place:1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
in which if these 6 cases 1, 2a 2b 3a 3b and 4 would you say a Lie of fabrication took place?
Ubiq -“In your book this is a Lie of fabrication. Even if they do” (they won’t), you don’t KNOW that they will.”
You have No Comprehension of the English language.
“it could be, because eventually they incorporate Subject Meanings into Regular Dictionaries.”
I didn’t say for sure that this will happen!
What does “it could be” Mean?“is a defintion you made up (and sort of found a source that part of which kind of sounds like what you claim when taken out of context)”
No, actually I quoted from 2 psychological places, & there are more.
So I really don’t think you’re a Know – it – All.
But you’re welcome to make yourself Foolish!Also I’m not sure why you are afraid to answer this question
In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place:
1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
in which if these 6 cases 1, 2a 2b 3a 3b and 4 would you say a Lie of fabrication took place?
“No, actually I quoted from 2 psychological places, & there are more.”
Not quite as pointed out dozens of times. You quoted half , and it still doesnt quite fit .
We went through this already
Here is the defintion you supplied:
“A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”
Lets go throug it again to see if it fits
“A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, ” – NO my statement wasn’t a lie it was true.
“without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.” This might fit I was as certain as can be, but obviously not 100% in the sense that “anything is possible”
” Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact.” My statement was based on fact.
” Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”” My statement was not made up.SO even if you think, I was too certain. it STILL is not a lie of fabrication as 3/4 parts of the defitnion doesnt fit.
I’m not sure if you know how defnitions work but the entire definition has to fit.“But you’re welcome to make yourself Foolish!”
Thats been true at least 100 posts ago
Ubiq – Since you have No Reading Comprehension, I’ll explain it to you!
“A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, ” – NO my statement wasn’t a lie it was true.”
It became True later on, at the time you posted it no one could ever know if it was or not.
“without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.” This might fit I was as certain as can be, but obviously not 100% in the sense that “anything is possible”
I just addressed this above.
It definitely fits.” Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact.” My statement was based on fact.”
Again, it wasn’t based on any Fact at the time that you posted it!
It came true later on.” Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”” My statement was not made up”
You made it up, because you Guessed what the SCOTUS would do!
So, are you going to admit that you told a “Lie of Fabrication”, or are you going to continue with your Denial & keep on trying to Manipulate e/o here?!?
“It became True later on”
so it was true. not a lie.
“It definitely fits.”
eh
“Again, it wasn’t based on any Fact at the time that you posted it!”
It was absolutly based on fact. John roberts has been around for a while. The way he thinks and feels is well known to those who follow.
Again As YOU agreed many knew how they would vote. did they all just have the same “nevuah” of course not.“You made it up, because you Guessed what the SCOTUS would do!”
It wasn’t a blind guess, see above
“So, are you going to admit that you told a “Lie of Fabrication”, ”
no because I didn’t lie AND didn’t fabricate.
you would need both to be correct.
You have neither“Manipulate e/o here?!?”
lol its just us, (and the poor mod forced to read the same thing over and over)
Also I’m not sure if you saw my question I posed 4 times
In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place:
1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
in which if these 6 cases 1, 2a 2b 3a 3b and 4 would you say a Lie of fabrication took place?
This is a useful exercise. Since it can help you see one of the 2 mistakes you are making in “lie of fabrication”
Ubiq -“so it was true. not a lie”
Stop changing the definition of a Lie of Fabrication!
How come that you won’t admit that you keep on doing this Abnormal Psychological Behavior?!?
At least you answered this –
“are you going to continue with your Denial & keep on trying to Manipulate e/o here?!?”“It was absolutly based on fact.”
Now this is an Outright Lie!
Who are you Fooling, besides yourself?!?“John roberts has been around for a while. The way he thinks and feels is well known to those who follow.”
So he’s the only one on the Supreme Court?!? There aren’t 9?!?
LOL.“It wasn’t a blind guess” & “It was absolutly based on fact.”
Did you actually write both of these?!?
LOL!
I could go on & on, but I’m scared that I might “Split a Gut”, from your Absurd Posts!No change
it isnt really a thing
But at least follow your own defitnion
“So he’s the only one on the Supreme Court?!? There aren’t 9?!?”
Whose vote, did you wonder about? Kagan? Sotomayor?
And Roberts isn’t just a justice he is the chief. Part of his role is presiding over the conference in which they decide what cases to hear
Did you actually write both of these?!?
absolutly did.
The question is did you really write this “.*.. a lot of people realized that they were delaying the case so they wouldn’t have to get involved.”I don’t get it if you say all those people (” a lot”) just took the same blond guess. even if yo usay the weren’t sure (as if that changes anything) whatever power the used to “realize” what was happening I used the same power
“I could go on & on”
no need
you’ve been posting mostly gibberish this entire thread.One thing that could be interesting though is to reply to my question (posed now for the 6th time:
In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place:
1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
in which if these 6 cases 1, 2a 2b 3a 3b and 4 would you say a Lie of fabrication took place?
*edited to remove the lie you had put in there. unlike you I don’t lie even repeating the lie you told makes me uncomfortable
Ubiq -“Part of his role is presiding over the conference in which they decide what cases to hear”
I told you quite a few times – they hear every Case!
“I don’t get it if you say all those people (” a lot”) just took the same blond guess. even if yo usay the weren’t sure (as if that changes anything) whatever power the used to “realize” what was happening I used the same power”
So sad. Nothing wrong with making a guess.
But there is something Wrong with doing a Lie of Fabrication!
I guess you forgot by now!
So go up a few lines.“you’ve been posting mostly gibberish this entire thread.”
Not me.
Your posts have gone to the Dogs!“1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it
3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)
4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”Why don’t you quit already?
Do you want to make sure that every Single poster can’t take you Seriously anymore?!?
To be honest – I once did.“I told you quite a few times – they hear every Case!”
Yes you have, but you are wrong on that. (i thought wev’e moved passed this)
The suprme court decides which cases they want to hear .From UScourts .gov
“Writs of Certiorari
Parties who are not satisfied with the decision of a lower court must petition the U.S. Supreme Court to hear their case. The primary means to petition the court for review is to ask it to grant a writ of certiorari. …. The Court usually is not under any obligation to hear these cases, and it usually only does so if the case could have national significance, might harmonize conflicting decisions in the federal Circuit courts, and/or could have precedential value. In fact, the Court accepts 100-150 of the more than 7,000 cases that it is asked to review each year. Typically, the Court hears cases that have been decided in either an appropriate U.S. Court of Appeals or the highest Court in a given state (if the state court decided a Constitutional issue).”The court does NOT hear al cases. they decide which cases to hear. The ones they decide to hear are granted a writ of Certiorari.
Most cases, including all related to the election are denied, menaing the court declines to hear them.I thought we covered this already.
I know I know your brother’s uncles cousin found some online source that says all cases are heard. You ca find it on Yeshiva worls posted by some guy Health unless it is from an auhtorative source . no reaosn to quote it here.
I quoted from a government run website.“Nothing wrong with making a guess….But there is something Wrong with doing a Lie of Fabrication!”
whats the difference? I don;t follow
“Do you want to make sure that every Single poster can’t take you Seriously anymore?!?”
Its faaaaar too late for that. I’m embarrassed at how long this conversation has gone on.
I’m hoping nobody is even opening this.
Its a problem I have reallyBut once we have come this far I’m curious how many more lies you can come up with.
I find it absolutely amazing.
Also, you quoted my question but haven’t replied.
I’m waiting patiently.
Ive patiently explained to you over and over how the supreme court works, what lie means , fabrication, among some many other bits of information.In return all Iv’e gotten are name calling and ignored question, oh and of course lies, lots and lots of lies.
But don’t you think I at least deserve replies to questions?
Ubiq -“US courts -The Court usually is not under any obligation to hear these cases”
“The court does NOT hear al cases. they decide which cases to hear. The ones they decide to hear are granted a writ of Certiorari.
Most cases, including all related to the election are denied, menaing the court declines to hear them.”One of your few True statements from a Compulsive Liar!
“I thought we covered this already”
But unfortunately you Never understood my posts!
I’m Not a Shrink, so I don’t know Why!For a Know – it – All, like you, you’d think that maybe there is more than one definition for “Hearing”?!?
From the US courts.gov, that’s talking about SCOTUS is one, but I was using the Other One.
From the Encyclopedia Brittanica:
“Hearing, in law, a trial. More specifically, a hearing is the formal examination of a cause, civil or criminal, before a judge according to the laws of a particular jurisdiction. In common usage a hearing also refers to any formal proceeding before a court.”“Nothing wrong with making a guess….But there is something Wrong with doing a Lie of Fabrication!”
“whats the difference? I don;t follow”For the Word “Guess” – look in any Dictionary!
Why do you make me repeat myself?!
Ok – One more time:
“Lets see how my truthful statement “The supreme court will dismiss the case as moot”
“When you keep trying to defend yourself, it seems that you’re trying to Manipulate that it Wasn’t a Lie of Fabrication.
Yes, it was. Because at the time of your post, No one, even individual Justices could know what the outcome would be.
So at the time of your post – it was Lie of Fabrication!”
Again:
“From Psychology.wikia.com
“Fabrication –
A fabrication is a lie told when someone submits a statement as truth, without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true. Although the statement may be possible or plausible, it is not based on fact. Rather, it is something made up, or it is a misrepresentation of the truth.”“From the US courts.gov, that’s talking about SCOTUS is one, ”
Our conversation was about scotus. So any otherdefinition you invent is irrelevant.
You said the conference is a court case. This was wrong.
You were sure of it, you lied you made it up. Some would say this is a “lie of Fabrication”“Why do you make me repeat myself?!”
Please don’t repeat yourself. I replied to your wrong points, again and again and again.
Would love to continue this conversation, but to help you you’ll have to answer my question.
If not, All the best.
See you next time.Ubiq -“Our conversation was about scotus. So any otherdefinition you invent is irrelevant.
You said the conference is a court case. This was wrong.”I forgot, you have No Reading Comprehension!
Is SCOTUS a Court of Law?
From previous:
From the Encyclopedia Brittanica:
“Hearing, in law, …. In common usage a hearing also refers to any formal proceeding before a court.”
What part of this Definition that you don’t Understand?!?“Would love to continue this conversation, but to help you you’ll have to answer my question”
This question?
“when someone submits a statement as truth, ” – NO my statement wasn’t a lie it was true.”
“without knowing for certain whether or not it actually is true.”I answered it for you before – I’ll do it again:
“Again, it wasn’t based on any Fact at the time that you posted it!”“You were sure of it, you lied you made it up.
Some would say this is a “lie of Fabrication””No, I didn’t!
When s/o thinks something and doesn’t say or post it – is No way a Lie of anything, because your Not telling anyone else!
I’m Not going to be your Dictionary!
You are Mekayim the Mitzvah of
“וְהִנֵּ֥ה עַם־קְשֵׁה־עֹ֖רֶף הֽוּא”.“What part of this Definition that you don’t Understand?!?”
2 parts:
The part that would apply that definition to a conference, which is NOT a “proceeding before a court”
and the part that would have that trump The Government’s own website which says EXACTLY as I’ve been telling you .“This question?”
No this one , posed now for the 7th (!!!!) time,:
In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place:
1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
in which if these 6 cases 1, 2a 2b 3a 3b and 4 would you say a Lie of fabrication took place?
Ubiq -“and the part that would have that trump The Government’s own website which says EXACTLY as I’ve been telling you”
I answered this already –
SCOTUS is a Court of Law!
Why would you think differently?
It’s just the final court.“The part that would apply that definition to a conference, which is NOT a “proceeding before a court”.”
Stop pretending that you’re a Know – it – All!
Definition of Legal Proceeding:
From Legal Insider:
“Legal Proceeding means any action, suit, litigation, arbitration, proceeding (including any civil, criminal, administrative, investigative or appellate proceeding), hearing, inquiry, audit, examination or investigation commenced, brought, conducted or heard by or before, or otherwise involving, any court or other Governmental Body or any arbitrator or arbitration panel.”“No this one , posed now for the 7th (!!!!) time,:
In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place”I guess – that you can’t take a Hint!
I’m Not answering those questions.
You can ask direct questions on my posts!
Not Moshol questions.“I guess – that you can’t take a Hint!”
Lol I sure can! You see that your “defitnion makes no sense So are afraid to answer . don;t worry. I got it.
Though I’m not going to just let it go. Cmon’ man we are 249 posts into this nonsense. You think I’m just going to let go another exposure of your nonsensical lies?“You can ask direct questions on my posts!”
sure here is a direct question:
You say I lied, even though I told the truth. You mentioned (after 25 or so posts arguing about the definition of “hearing”) that you are using a special definition of lie that you call “lie of fabrication” To back up this definition , you brought used psychology wikia as a source (As if that trumps any of the numerous dictionary definitions I provided)
Under this defitnion, from the source YOU provided they have an example of a “lie of fabrication” (again, which is what you are accusing me of)
the example is “The dog ate my homework”So I’m trying to understand how you understand the example of the defitnoion you provided
In which of these scenarios would you say this “lie of fabrication” took place:
1) The guy never did it, teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
2) The guy did do his homework , but can’t find it, he has no idea what happened. teacher asks where is your homework? guy says “The dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it3) The guy did his homework, he sees his dog rummaging in his knapsack and chewing some papers, but doesn’t see which, when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
a. The dog really did eat it
b. the dog did not eat it (eg he finds it later on his desk)4) the guy did his homework, the dog eats it when his teacher asks where is your homework ? he says “the dog ate it”
in which if these 6 cases 1, 2a 2b 3a 3b and 4 would you say a Lie of fabrication took place?
“Not Moshol questions.”
None whatsoever.
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