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  • #2077412
    The Real Truth
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    Will trump run for president in 2024? if yes will he win the real race?

    #2077533
    Katonti
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    Kasich will wipe the floor with him in the primary.
    Kasich 2024!!

    #2077573
    akuperma
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    He might run, or he might decide to settle for being the kingmaker and senior statesmen. There is no way he can unify the Republicans, and running without a strong party behind him will result in the Democrats winning (unless they also fragment).

    Trump also may allow his views to evolve, e.g. switch from isolationist to hawkish leader of the free world. A lot his views on domestic issues may prove a problem unless he apologizes and says his views have been revised to reflect changing conditions (declaring a state of emergency for Covid, opposing immigration during a period of serious labor shortages). Instead of complaining the election was stolen, the Republicans need to both argue for more security in voting and making a serious “turn out the vote” effort for mail-in ballots.

    #2077591
    ujm
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    Whoever predicted at this time in 2014 Trump would win, has a right to answer the OP. Anyone else has the same rights as a first grade child.

    #2077596
    commonsaychel
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    @the real truth, what will the price of gas be in 2024? what will the DJ average be in 2024?

    #2077611
    Gadolhadorah
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    CS: Not sure what you mean by “gas”. $3.88/MMBTU for natural gas or $3.12/gal for gasoline. DJA will be at 48,339.

    #2077614
    smerel
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    I don’t think Trump will run again . The winds are blowing against him even in the Republican party. The crowds who are coming to his rallies are getting smaller. His ego will not be able to take another loss.

    #2077829
    lakewhut
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    If not for covid Trump would have won. Trump did better than any republican running for president in recent times.

    #2077838
    commonsaychel
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    Moshiach will be here by then, so who cares

    #2077839
    The Real Truth
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    if not for trump there would not covid

    #2077848

    > If not for covid Trump would have won.

    correction: if not for
    – media blaming Trump for mismanaging covid
    – for Biden falsely claiming that he knows better
    – media amplifying Biden’s claim and not asking questions
    – 1-2% of voters buying all of the above

    #2077849

    PS if not for
    – FDA apparently directing Pfizer not to release vaccine test results before the election
    – suppressing all stories about Hunter and his father’s businesses

    #2078059
    smerel
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    >>>If not for covid Trump would have won

    That is true but his behavior after the election doomed his chances in 2024.

    Had he acted like Stacy Abrams and said “I don’t accept that I lost the election but realize that I won’t be the next governor of Georgia” and moved on he would have had a good chance in 2024.

    But two years of talking about a stolen election don’t endear you to anyone. Is 2024 about what the voters want or a referendum on whether 2020 was stolen or not?

    #2078084
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    Yes! Smerel, spot on!

    #2078118
    ujm
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    Trump hasn’t focused at all over the 2020 election over the last year plus. He made a random comment here and there, sporadically, when asked. But that’s it. The left-wing media (which is all of Big Media/MSM) keeps focusing on it and Trump, but Trump himself not.

    #2078119
    ujm
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    Trump hasn’t focused at all over the 2020 election over the last year plus. He made a random comment here and there, sporadically, when asked. But that’s it. The left-wing media (which is all of Big Media/MSM) keeps focusing on it and Trump, but Trump himself not.

    #2078120
    ujm
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    Trump hasn’t focused at all over the 2020 election over the last year plus. He made a random comment here and there, sporadically, when asked. But that’s it. The left-wing media (which is all of Big Media/MSM) keeps focusing on it and Trump, but Trump himself not.

    #2078140
    huju
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    To ujm: “This time” in 2014 does not exist. You have the literacy of a first grader.

    As for expectations about the 2024 election, that is 100 years from today. We will know more after the 2022 midterm elections.

    #2078212
    Reb Eliezer
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    huju, ujm obviously meant that predicting this time in 2024 as the OP and left out the word ‘that’ in 2024 Trump would win.

    #2078202
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “Trump hasn’t focused at all over the 2020 election over the last year plus. He made a random comment here and there, sporadically, when asked.“

    You obviously haven’t seen official statements from him and are going based off his speeches

    #2078199
    american_yerushalmi
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    Of course, everyone has forgotten about the brilliant medical breakthrough of injecting bleach…. Oh yeah, he was just being sarcastic …

    #2078218
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    right, sarcastic. except that he never really said it. Twitter much?

    #2078250
    yaakov doe
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    Trump issues statements daily and in almost everyone refers to the election of 2020. He is endorsing opponents of elected persons who he feels didn’t contest his 2020 loss. He is still obsessed with the idea that he actually won although in a recent interview he admitted he lost.
    Being that he doesn’t want to be seen as a 2 time loser I am certain that he will not run in 2024.

    #2078310
    Gadolhadorah
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    Most of the rational people in the “MAGA-world” are laughing at Trump behind his back, making derogatory comments off the record and using his name to advance their own agendas. Whether or not he runs in 2024, he will go down as the most pathetic clown in the history of American politics. His entertainment value has not diminished and a MAGA rally reminds me of going to the midnight showings of the Rocky Horror Show back in College.

    #2078321
    🍫Syag Lchochma
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    “Whether or not he runs in 2024, he will go down as the most pathetic clown in the history of American politics.”

    right under Kamala harris

    #2078333
    OrangeCountyChapper
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    The problem is that Trump stories, good or bad, are the only stories about Republicans covered by the mainstream media. You might see Romney, Kasich, or Haley as more reasonable candidates, but they can’t get any traction. The media WANT to focus on the Republicans who are loose cannons, to make whatever boring candidate the Dems run seem more attractive. That strategy worked with Sleepy Joe Biden, and only backfired with Hillary because she was disliked even more than Trump.

    #2078417

    >> he will go down as the most pathetic clown in the history of American politics.”
    > right under Kamala harris

    can I un-see this discussion please?

    #2078420

    Orange, we tried Romney already. Do you think that now, when 80s literally called back (or is it 40s?), the media or Mr. Obama will apologize to Romney for laughing him off? Maybe we should re-run 2012 election based on the factual misrepresentation.

    #2078587
    OrangeCountyChapper
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    AAQ, You’re right about Romney being owed an apology about Russia, but you’re missing the point. Romney is just one example with appeal for moderates who feel both the Republican and Democratic parties has been hijacked by extremists. But the media prefers Trump as the de facto Republican leader because his antics and those of his extremist followers attract more clicks, and he makes a moderate Democratic nominee more electable.

    #2078738

    Orange > Romney is just one example with appeal for moderates

    I am blaming Romney for not fighting for his positions the way Trump does. If there is a moderate who will fight for his moderation, I am willing to listen. Also, Trump’s positions are rarely extremists. Sometimes he is direct calling spade a spade or different by trying new approaches. In many economic matters, he is quite moderate and populist. For example, his tax reform re-distributed a lot from rich people by cutting SALT.

    You are right that he has extremists among his followers. But they are “among” not the only ones. After all, about half of the people voted for him.

    #2079858

    If DeSantis runs for president and is nominated, he will likely win the election. Especially vs. Joe Biden. A glass of water could probably beat Joe Biden!

    #2079890

    But how do you know that desantis will be better at governance than Biden? He seems to have no business experience, was good at sports in ivy league, granted was in the navy but as a lawyer dealing with gitmo … He may talk like Trump, but is capable of acting like him ( in a good way)? Many people might ask this question and be less enthusiastic about him

    #2079901
    yungermanS
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    Everything is completely in the hands of Hashem and it has already been decreed who will win the 2024 USA elections for presidential race and all other rulers from governors to senators etc…. But we still all have to do our part and go out to vote on election day and most importantly to remind ourselves of the truth “LEV MELOCHIM VSORIM BYAD HASHEM” ….. All rulers in the entire world are simply actors and just messengers of Hashem to act as rulers and kings but in truth Hashem is the ruler and king of kings master of the entire world and all other worlds above us.

    Let us start to realize tbis

    #2079944
    ☕️coffee addict
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    “If DeSantis runs for president and is nominated, he will likely win the election. Especially vs. Joe Biden. A glass of water could probably beat Joe Biden!“

    Are you saying that Trump wouldn’t beat Biden and even worse a cup of water would beat trump?

    #2079950
    Reb Eliezer
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    YungermanS, you are saying what Shakespeare said, the world is a stage and we are all actors but then we would not have a bechira? We play with the cards we were dealt with.

    #2080160
    Reb Eliezer
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    YungermanS, I did not read it correctly, you are saying the rulers are actors but in order to be punished they must be bad by themselves.

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