Eggs: chumra to treat then like fleishig

Keeping in mind that an egg inside a chicken is considered meat and part of the chicken. It requires soaking and salting like meat. Once the egg is laid, it’s status of meat is removed. It becomes it’s own entity…maybe a chumra to treat it like meat makes sense.

Consider the fetus, while in mother is considered its own entity…

Wolf, maybe you are machmir to be maykil.

That too is a chura. To be makpid on keeping kulas.

Wolf, morally bankrupt would be to eat eggs with chicken. Eggs and cheese is muttar, unless you take on the new chumra I thought of, to treat eggs as meat…which makes sense. True eggs are not mamash eiver min haChai, but to say it is not like meat …

shrags – “Then you cant eat honey. It would be not kosher.”

Honey is different. The Gemara gives two reasons why honey is muttar (and not considered something that came from the be),

The Gemara Bechoros 7b explains that honey is kosher since it is not an actual secretion of the bee; the bee functions only as a carrier and facilitator. Honey is kosher flower nectar, which enters the bee’s honey sac and is transformed into honey.

The second opinion in the Gemara permits honey because of a g’zairas hakasuv, a deduction from a pasuk (Vayikra 11:21 Ach es zeh).

Therefore, the halacha is that honey is kosher despite the fact that it comes from the non-kosher honeybee ( Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 81:8).

These reasons would not apply to eggs (to differentiate them from being part of the chicken).

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Yabia Omar – “I don’t think anyone holds that eggs are basari. Is this another meshugas from our brothers from the north?” I was talking about a chumra, to treat eggs basari. But why do you think it is so poshut that eggs are not besari? Poskim speak why eggs are not eiven min ha’chai, but if the eggs have gidim (viens) attached, they are eiver min ha’chai, and have a full din of basari.

Do you have a clear hetter for treating eggs as paraveh?

iacisrmma, you might have missed the word “chumra” of treating eggs like fleishig . No need “every kosher store serving hot breakfasts would have to close down” for a “chumra”. Besides, even if you accept the “chumra”, no need to close down any kosher eatery, just don’t eat the eggs with milchigs (and wait 6 hours after eating them) , and you are fine.

Chazal gave specific reason why honey is muttar – even though it comes from bees (a sheretz), without the reason, honey we wouldn’t be allowed to eat it..

Milk, the Torah specifically excludes it from being considered meat by forbidding us to eat/cook milk with meat. without that, it would be considered meat/fleishig/bsari.

Eggs – where is the hetter to consider them paraveh? There is a heter for them not being eiver min haChai, but what hetter is there to consider them paraveh?

Even if they are paraveh (as is the minhag of many Yidden), my query is :

Anyone keeping the chumra of treating eggs like fleishig (because they are produced by chicken)?
Like not cooking or eating eggs with milchigs and waiting 6 hours after eggs before eating milchigs.

BTW – the Ramban counts the chiyuv of קדש עצמך במותר לך (to add chumros) as one of the 613 mitzvos!

Is adding a chumra distorting or mocking halacha?

I am open to hearing and accepting if you can back it with sources – like I do.

Do you not have any chumros?

Do you disagree with Ramban that it is a mitzva to add chumros?

Do you think the Mesilas Yeshorim is distorting and mocking halacha by telling us that perishus by adding chumros is good?

Do you have a source that eggs are paraveh and if so one must NOT treat them as fleishig?

Chazal gave a HETER to eat honey – because it is produced seperate from the bee. That implies that eggs would be part of chicken.

Chazal use a possuk to show that milk is not meat – because the Torah prohibits eating/cooking meat with milk. Implying, without the possuk, milk would be meat. Applying to eggs, where there is no possuk, eggs would be fleishig.

I stress, as a chumrah, not “midina” (halacha) but as a stringency.

Do you have sources that eggs are parave? – bring them! But making up “halacha” without sources is in itself a mockery and distortion which you commit.

why the mods allow this” See reply #1710015 earlier in this thread: Mod 25 thinks I am cute.