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  • #2185128
    funnee
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    Hey random question for someone coming to Flatbush today- anyone know if there is an early mincha today (around 7) near ocean avenue and avenue O vicinity? Thank you!

    #2185152
    WolfishMusings
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    Sha’arei Shalom (Ave P and Madison — not too far away) has a Mincha minyan at 7:00 pm.

    The Wolf

    #2185162
    DaMoshe
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    There’s a big issue with the 7:00 early Shabbos minyanim. If you’re going to daven Kabbalas Shabbos before shkiah, you need to daven Mincha before plag. Plag today in Brooklyn is 6:22, so Mincha starting at 6:10 or so should work.

    #2185177
    mentsch1
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    Damoshe
    We are all familiar with the mishna brura on the subject
    Yet many are not makpid including some very chashuv kehilos

    #2185202
    Yabia Omer
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    You don’t HAVE to daven before shkiyah. There’s on what to rely.

    #2185851
    Are Roster
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    DaMoshe wrote:
    “There’s a big issue with the 7:00 early Shabbos minyanim. If you’re going to daven Kabbalas Shabbos before shkiah, you need to daven Mincha before plag. Plag today in Brooklyn is 6:22, so Mincha starting at 6:10 or so should work.”

    Actually davening at 7:00 is much better than davening at 6:10. The reason is that by davening at 7:00, you are davening mincha before the Magen Avraham’s plag and maariv after the magen avraham’s plag, so there’s no issue of a tarti disasri. If you daven at 6:10, it means that you are davening Maariv before the Magen Avraham’s plag. The Mishna Berurah isn’t machria which plag is lihalacha. As such, by davening Maariv before the Magen Avraham’s plag you are making tens of (safek) brachos livatala. It is better not to daven at all than to daven Maariv before the Magen Avraham’s plag, unless you are a Granik.

    #2185903
    mentsch1
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    Are
    This litvak got a laugh from your answer

    #2185917
    n0mesorah
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    Magen Avraham plag is a misnomer.

    #2185922
    n0mesorah
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    And on Erev Shabbos we are not chosesh for tarti dsasri.

    #2185942
    DaMoshe
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    N0mesorah, the Mishnah Berurah disagrees with you, and says we do worry about tarti d’sasri.
    וי”א דבצבור יש להקל להתפלל מעריב מבע”י אף אם התפלל מנחה אחר פלג המנחה ונ”ל שאין לסמוך על זה רק כשהוא מתפלל מעריב עכ”פ בבין השמשות ובשעת הדחק

    #2185961
    n0mesorah
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    Correct. And?

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