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    r c
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    E Cigs dont contain the thousands of toxic chemicals tobbaco contains. It just has some trace amounts of chemicals what could be dangerous?

    #1713248
    👑RebYidd23
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    The drug is usually the dangerous part.

    #1713373
    Ex-CTLawyer
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    Many are laced with nicotine…highly addictive and dangerous to your health
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    Many have the same chemical in them used to deice airplanes. It can cause major respiratory illness and affect hearing. Youngest Ms. CTL tried these in high school and ended up with serious ear problems.

    #1713372
    lakewhut
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    There’s no way they are safe. They may be less harmful than cigs, but not safe. What’s safe about liquid chemical vapor being inhaled?

    #1713653
    👑RebYidd23
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    It’s not unsafe because it’s liquid chemical vapor. It’s unsafe because the particular chemicals used are dangerous. There are chemicals that would be safe to use in such a manner.

    #1713664
    Yserbius123
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    Those without nicotine are “relatively” safe, but still highly untested. Those with nicotine are only marginally less likely to give a person cancer or emphysema.

    #1713756
    👑RebYidd23
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    Those with nicotine are almost guaranteed to cause nicotine addiction.

    #1713787
    lakewhut
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    “It’s not unsafe because it’s liquid chemical vapor.” I wasn’t emphasizing the vapor. I was emphasizing the chemicals.

    #1713805
    bja613
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    yserbius123- where are you getting your info from? Most every research has come up with inconclusive evidence but you seem to know more than them…
    Nicotine is addictive but can someone tell me the exact health risk in being addicted to something with in itself may not cause any health risks. The danger of addictive nicotine is when it is wrapped together with something dangerous like smoking tobacco. Nicotine may have some health risks to it but the jury is still out on that as well.
    I do not recommend taking chances with any of the above but it is worthwhile to be accurate.

    #1713797
    👑RebYidd23
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    Chemicals aren’t all interchangeable.

    #1805149

    A blast from the past.

    #1808796
    LOTR92
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    key word is probably. but you are wrong, they are dangerous and often lead to smoking real cigarettes

    #1808797
    LOTR92
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    they are very safe when they are in the city garbage dump

    #1809081
    banjobob
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    They are not safe. Stop fooling yourself

    #1809127
    takahmamash
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    You say they are “probably” safe. Why risk your life on a safek?

    #1809166
    Milhouse
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    Not just probably, but very probably. There is NO REASON to suppose that they are unsafe.

    The idiot above who was worried about taking chemicals into your lungs, guess what, that’s what we call breathing. Fear of “chemicals” is one of the stupidest things ever, since literally everything in the world is chemicals.

    The recent illnesses and deaths have now all been traced to people replacing the genuine product with some toxic mixture they made themselves or bought illegally. There have been no illnesses among those who smoked a genuine product as it is sold in normal stores.

    And what’s wrong with nicotine addiction? Why is it any worse than caffeine addiction? So long as you’re getting your nicotine in a safe manner, as vaping is, what’s the problem? The problem with smoking is the tar, and vaping has no tar.

    #1809190
    Ramchas
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    From the CDC. Seems like typical Sofek Nefashos to me – the type you’re Mechalel Shabbos on.

    THC-containing products continue to be the most commonly reported e-cigarettes, or vaping, products used by EVALI patients, and it appears that vitamin E acetate is associated with EVALI. However, many substances and product sources are being investigated, and there might be more than one cause. Therefore, while the investigation continues, persons should consider refraining from the use of all e-cigarette, or vaping, products.

    CDC will continue to update guidance, as appropriate, as new data become available from this complex outbreak.

    #1809191
    Ramchas
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    From the CDC. Seems like the typical Sofek Nefashos to me – the type you’re Mechalel Shabbos on.

    THC-containing products continue to be the most commonly reported e-cigarettes, or vaping, products used by EVALI patients, and it appears that vitamin E acetate is associated with EVALI. However, many substances and product sources are being investigated, and there might be more than one cause. Therefore, while the investigation continues, persons should consider refraining from the use of all e-cigarette, or vaping, products.

    CDC will continue to update guidance, as appropriate, as new data become available from this complex outbreak.

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