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How much over the speed limit can you drive without the cops bothering you? We all know most drivers are over, and the cops expect as much. In New York City’s five boroughs the speed limit is 30 citywide (unless otherwise posted), and almost no one is within that limit. If they were, traffic would crawl and everyone would be honking the poor guy. The same is on the highways. Most people are going over 65.
just dont get caught…if you see a cop slow down
The general rule is 10 over and you’re okay.
In the UK the speeed limit is 30mph on regular roads and 70mph on motorways (highways) but the police usually practice an unofficial policy of allowing “10% +2mph” over the speed limit before stopping you.
Incidentally there has been this week talk of raising the motorway speed limit in the UK to 80mph in line with Europe where it is either 110/120/130 km/h (75-80 mph).
But based on the policy of allowing “10% +2mph” over the speed limit before stopping you, it is 80mph already before they will stop you, and seeing as they said that if they do increase the limit to 80mph they will not allow ANY higher than 80 and will stop even at 81, I fail to see what will change!
There’s a rule about breaking the rule?
There is NO ‘general rule that 10 over is ok’. A cop CAN stop you for going even 2 mph over. Realistically they are unlikely to stop you if you’re not going more than 5-7 mph over, but when you get to 10 over, you are flirting with trouble, – especially if, chalila, you should have an accident while driving 10 over.
Just because the Cops dont catch you, doesnt make it LEGAL
HASHEM is watching you Dinah D’Malchus Dina
Not true about 10 MPH. If a cop wants to give you a ticket, he will pull you over and ticket you for even ONE mile over the limit. My son’s first ticket was for driving less than 5 MPH over the limit. We know the speed, because the car was a clunker that rattled (and sounded like ti would fall apart) if he drove over 35 MPH. He was in a 30 zone and the car was not rattling, when he was pulled over. He was shocked to get a speeding ticket. The cop was not interested in hearing about the car’s “speed alarm” system.
On the FDR and 9A the posted limit is 45. Most cars travel at 65-70.
Speed limit is 45 mph on the highway I travel most. BH I have never ever been pulled over, but I have been in the car with a friend being pulled over for 5mph over the limit. Getting in a crash going to speed limit as opposed to 15-20 miles over can mean the difference between life and death. It is not worth it. Please don’t speed.
I don’t see any such signs. They whiz by too fast.
MorahRach is right. It is not worth the consequences to speed. Unless you are on your way to the ER (and speeding WILL get you there eventually, one way or the other), what on earth are you in such a hurry for? So you get somewhere 5-10 minutes later????
oomis1105: lol yeah…ever drive in boro park? speeding is a luxury. when i can…i do 😀
I once drove 100 MPH in a rented Toyota Prius. You should have seen how fuel efficient it was at that speed.
HAHAHAHAHAAH
Soliek, I wouold never have the patience to drive in BP. 🙂
The speed limit has little to do with safety. There is no reason for the ridicules limit on the Palisades, for example. Most drivers know what the safety limit is, and that limit is often observed even when it is 15-20 over the posted limit.
And please inform us, which Mitzvas Assei or Lo Sasei is Dina D’malchusa Dina? The only reason to observe the posted limit is to avoid a ticket.
if you get to drive 20 MPH in BP that is their version of speeding.lol
i work for a driving school in boro park…welcome to my life lol
HaLeiVi:
Dina (is that her first name?) Dmalchusa means that if Mr. Palisade is mekadesh his Mrs. with the money obtained from someone going on his highway between 51 and 75 (I think above that is for low flying aircraft), then she is his lucky wife.
Dina (is that her first name?) Dmalchusa means that if Mr. Palisade is mekadesh his Mrs. with the money obtained from someone going on his highway between 51 and 75 (I think above that is for low flying aircraft), then she is his lucky wife.
Yes, that is more or less the type of context I have seen D”MD in as well.
But then, I’ve never attempted to research it thoroughly.
Anyone have a cite for the notion that speeding, or dumping stuff into navigable waters of the united states without a 401 or 402 permit, is an issur which is incorporated into halacha? IOW, that Issur D’Malchusa Issur?
Getting in a crash going to speed limit as opposed to 15-20 miles over can mean the difference between life and death.
Also, getting in a crash going 15-20 below the speed limit as opposed to going the speed limit can mean the difference between life and death.
FYI When going from NJ to NY over the Outer Bridge Crossing you change from a 65 mph limit (on NJ440) to only 50 mph limit in Staten Island be careful !! The ticket for going 72 mph in a 50 zone in NY costs $150 plus $300 rem penalty, it hurts!!
So heres is my question. whats the point, are you willing to pay if you get the ticket? points on your license? getting your licesnse revoked even? you have to think of the consequences. and arent you concerned at all about your fellow drivers? speed KILLS> is there anywhere you are in such a hurry to go to that you need to endanger your life and the lives of others. Driving at a safe speed enables you to react properly to changing driving conditions. if you want to speed go on the Autobahn…!!!!
PBA: Rav Schachter says that it falls under Dina D’malchusa because it is for the safety of the society.
Sam: Yes, I have heard among people an idea of “issur d’malchusa issur”. I haven’t ever seen it in a real source, though. (Noting again that I never researched it, so this is only daas am haaratzus).
Do you have a cite?
He actually mentioned it in a Shiur I heard a few days ago. That usually means that it was in Shiur a few days ago, but if I was bored it may well have been a Shiur from years ago.
interestingly enough, when someone I know [:)] was pulled over for speeding, the cop told them that what tipped him off was the fact that he was passing other cars, not the actual numbers.
Go with traffic and you should be fine.
Except in those places like Ohio where they are really finicky and pull over multiple cars, while you wait on the side of the highway…
And at the very least I get credit for making up the term Issur d’malchusa issur.
OK, so now I browsed through the encyclopedia talmudis on my handy dandy bar ilan. I don’t see nothin suggesting that it applies to make things assur. It seems to apply to the monetary based rules.
Now I’m going to go and discharge a pollutant from a pointsource into navigable waters without a permit. See if you can stop me.
rc, what does safety have to do with the posted limit?
im just saying, this guy is obviously asking becuase he wants to go considerablly faster than the posted limit. obviously, the 30MPH in the fancy rich suburban neighborhood, is to keep noise to a minimum not save lives, but in and around boro park for eg. speeding down streets is a recipe for disaster. There the speed limit should be upheld so that the driver could avoid accidents with double parked cars, people darting in and out between cars etc.
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