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Last year I dressed up as santa clous it received many diffrent kinds of reactions frum all my teachers sum thought it wuz hysterychl others….weren’t to happy;)its not assur rite??this year I came up with an ingenius plan let’s say I dress up like a monk I’ll wear a sighn that says”kol letzanusa deasera ela meletzanusa shel avoida zarah”ur allowed to make fun of getshkahs(avoida zarah)!
Peer, I wouldn’t do it. MAke fun of A”Z all you want, but maybe it’s not the best thing to dress in “their” clothing. It especially is offensive to a non-Jew to see a Jew do that.
Tip to anyone wanting to dress up as a munk: A great accessory would be The World of Prayer.
I knew someone who dressed up like a pregnant nun!
Better a monk or nun than a Pictish warrior 🙂
(The ancient Picts went into battle dressed only in helmets and blue paint)
Mybat, one year the Rebetzin of our shule was pregnant, and she dressed up as a nun!
Do we not have enough Jewish charachters that we have to dress up in theirs?????
What is with the parev ideas like international costumes?
Why in the world would someone like to dress up like a NUN? SANTA CLAUS?
certainly you dont think it’s impressive…
Maybe dress up like a missionary with a big wooden cross and yell, “I’ll save your soul”!!
Come on now! Purim is a Jewish holiday, not Saint Patrick’s Day.
Purim is a Jewish Holiday and borrowing from the Goyim gives them a sense of validity. Why is it necessary to make fun of someone else’s religion. They are entitled to their religion. We are not looking for converts and we recognize that there are other religions in the world. By making fun of them we only promote them to make fun of us. WE walk through our neighborhoods and need to understand that others walk through and drive through our neighborhoods as well. In addition what are we really teaching our children when we do such things. Can we possibly know what is going through their heads when they see this?
Personally I think it is totally unacceptable. Would you think it was acceptable if your daughter wanted to wear a Brittany Spears or Miley Cyrus costume? You would think she wants to emulate her and not make fun of her. So NO I don’t think it is appropriate. It is also inappropriate to dress like a black slave. It is totally disrespectful and tasteless. Try to find a costume that represents someone you admire or something that is humorous. Poke fun at yourself if you will, or be original. But try to stay away from being controversial it won’t gain you anything but can cause a lot of damage. Don’t dress like a teenager who is at risk if your neighbor is going through the parsha, don’t dress like an old maid if your sister in law is still in the parsha and never got married. Don’t dress like a fat lady if your mother-in-law is overweight. Don’t put on a maternity belly if your sister-in-law doesn’t have any kids. Use your common sense to have fun without being hurtful or being a bad role model to anyone. Think about it, if a bunch of boys came in looking like Moshe Rabbeinu and a bunch of boys came in looking like the Pope who would you most likely give a larger check to?
How would you feel if on St. Patricks Day you saw people dressed like a Rabbonim drinking straight out of a keg of beer? Would you think it was funny if at the next “rainbow coalition” parade people dressed up like chassidim? You might think it is funny, they dont.
I remember, when I was in high school, there were some fellow who liked heckling one of the english teachers, a devout catholic. One day, to get under his skin they asked if they could “go to the pope” (the previous popes name was john). everyone thought this was so clever and witty, until the next day the teacher announced that he had to make a quick stop at the rabbi. Suddenly everyone was insulted and annoyed (he actually DID go to the office, but thats a separate story).
Bad idea.
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Im sure there are non Jews that have and do dress up as chassidim to be funny at their holidays or parties where they dress up.
Most of you are missing the point of why we dress up on Purim. We dress up because the Jews disguised themselves when the Gezayrah came out so save themselves. Some might have dressed as nuns or momks.There is nothing wrong with dressing like a goy because that is what actually happened!
Do you think Purim is Halloween where we just dress up?
“Some might have dressed as nuns or momks.There is nothing wrong with dressing like a goy because that is what actually happened!”
And some may have dressed up as zonahs. It’s assur and it’s a stupid statement.
I dressed as Miss Clavelle one year, and my 2nd grader dressed as Madeline (from the Madeline book series). We were quite the hit, as I recall.
To mamashtakah: I find your post hard to believe. Please name the rebbetzin and the name and town or neighborhood of her shul, or withdraw your questionable prank.
WIY: Walmart.com is selling a “rabbi costume” that is a fake shtreiemel and rekel.
no fun to dress up as a nun? what fun can a nun possibly have? None!
or artchill; perhaps the missionary will come in with his cross and say can you please put me up for the night!
cherrybim- I agree you made a stupid statement. Even goyim (normal ones) would not let their kids dress like Zonahs.
NOWAY UR TAKING A JEWISH HOLIDAY AND MAKKING IT GOYISH NO NO AND NO!!! IF I WLD C U ON PURIM I WLD COMMENT!!! ANDI DON’T ESPECIALLY IN OUBLIC IM SHY BUT I WILL SAY SOMETHING
I went to a chatuna on December 25th.
The chatan’s buddies did some kind of a shtick involving Santa Claus hats.
I was very put off by that, but didn’t want to make a macha’ah since it was an otherwise joyous occasion. OTOH, the fact that this was a chatuna where the most scum secular heavy metal/rap tunes were being played was very troubling to me. I also chuckled to myself when men dressed in the kedusha of the spiffy spodek processed to Elton John tunes.
I dressed up as the Witch-King of Angmar when I was nine (no, I’m not joking). I made a Morgul blade out of wooden cooking skewers and aluminum foil. ^_^
my israeli neighbor in Eretz Yisroel, proudly showed my wife the homemade costume she had made of a “clown”. it was a santa claus costume, she had bought a red hat in a bag and thinking it was a clown, followed the picture on the header. my wife called R’ Sheinberg zt”l, he had a good laugh and then said that we should explain it to them what it really was so they could change it.
See the Igros Moshe YD:1:81 who brings the Rama who brings the Ran to asser goyish clothing for two reasons (see tshuvah). Whatever the case may be even if it is done in jest(maybe a heter,hard to hear)it doesn’t seem like the appropriate thing to do on purim
anon1m0us Today a lot of mothers let their children dress as zonahs. In some cultures it’s considered appropriate!
A galach or a pregnant nun for Purim is quite common, but because of the scandals it may not be wise to dress as a galach.
rebdoniel; my mother A”H, two months ago, always looked for the positive
in someone or a situation. If you cholila began to talk loshon hora
about someone she would very politely change the topic so not even by remiza would you understand. It is time in these forums people start to see the good in others and not all this negativeness. I am appalled that Yidden shomrei toira & mitzvois are stooping to these low levels and of course to degrade themselves. consult your local Rov regarding this matter and I am quite sure his opinion of how you express yourself will perhaps surprise you. Torah Yidden try always to look for the good in other Yidden So in conclusion if it is okay with you please raise the bar here a notch or two or three.
Hazlocho meruba and kol tuv
It is time in these forums people start to see the good in others and not all this negativeness…… Torah Yidden try always to look for the good in other Yidden So in conclusion if it is okay with you please raise the bar here a notch or two or three.
+2 for a friend!
A priest or nun is definitely as Issur D’Oraisa of Chukas HaGoyim. Santa I’m not sure about, because the costume was made originally by Coca-Cola and the religious part of it may have been borrowed later. And I’m not sure whether that matters, in either directions.
nfgo3:
To mamashtakah: I find your post hard to believe. Please name the rebbetzin and the name and town or neighborhood of her shul, or withdraw your questionable prank.
You’re going to argue with something that was posted two years ago?
What if he does name the rebbetzin? What would it accomplish? Would you go and take away her “teudat rebbetzin?” Would you tattle to her husband? Guess what – her husband, the shule rabbi, was there, and he saw her!
Why did mamashtakah become takahmamash?
I am not backing away from what I said. Years before I became Orthodox, I knew that rap music and most secular music of the past 40 years was little more than sex, smut, perversion, violence, and misogyny. For Jews to invite this into their lives and to start a marriage off on this foot is a bad idea. Likewise, aping Santa Claus is a shonda.
Sam2: Dreassing up like a woman is a D’Orasa of “Lo Silbosh”, however, the Mishna Breura poskens on Purim one is allowed to dress up like a women. The same would apply to dressing up like a Nun, Priest, or Monk.
Confucious:
Why did mamashtakah become takahmamash?
Because Mamashtakah had a problem with the password, and despite repeated entreaties to the mods, there was no response to fix the problem. Therefore, I switched to Takahmamash.
“Two great tastes that taste great together!”
Many years ago my friend’s son was about 5 and wanted to dress up as Achashverosh. She didn’t think that was appropriate, so he got to wear the same costume, but she explained that he was really Mordechai wearing the king’s clothes.
haifagirl
The emperor has no clothes.
anon: The Rama says that and the Achronim all try and minimize it as much as possible. And I’m not sure what proof that is. The Rama is relying on Rashi Al HaTorah and saying that since it’s not for Pritzus, Begged Ishah doesn’t apply on Purim. How would that allow us to be Mattir a different Issur D’Oraisa just because it’s Purim?
“The same would apply to dressing up like a Nun, Priest, or Monk.”
I dare you to ask your Rav and get a heter; because it’s stupid and assur. Let us know his answer.
Peerimsameach: Better than dressing as a monk (notice the correct spelling), I think that you should dress as an Imam. That way you’d get stopped by DHS at any transportation facility and the NYPD would be spying on you.
Sam2: The difference between us is that I do not consider dressing like a nun an issur d’oraysa of Chukas Hagoyim so dressing like a women is much worse than a nun but it is still muter on purim.
cherrybim: Yes, my rav will say tZe Pasht Nisht, but we are talking about usser.
??????? is fine that’s from a Jewish religion!!!!
I spoke this q over with my fiends they all admitted that dressing up as any of these is awful and aveirah bec ur mixing GOYISH into JEWISH
A Nun, a Priest, and a Monk walk into a bar.
“Hey what is this,” cries the bartender, “Purim or something?”
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