double standards in the workplace

thegoq- maybe your boss sees you are on the CR often so thats your break already:)

The grass is always greener on the other side it seems.

Do you expect your boss to tell the women not to talk? It’s just part of the deal.

In my case, my workmates have no problem making long phone calls bacause my boss doesn’t see them. I am all day next to my boss, and he get’s nervous when I make a short call, so I just go somewhere else when I need to make an important call.

Bottom line – See what get’s your boss upset and work around it.

Sac

Because us “MEAN” are … mean? lol

But in all seriousness, its called discrimination. I mean why do I get paid more than the guy that does the same work as I do?

Sounds like TheGog is unhappy at work. Perhaps if you spent more time working instead of writing on YWN, you may accomplish something at work that says to your boss, hey, mr gog is really good, lets make sure we make him really happy here so that he wont go elsewhere and help our competition. Just a suggestion.

I don’t believe men get paid more for the same job. Lawyers don’t, doctors don’t, speech therapists don’t.

The numbers they put out of .83 to the dollar are for the workplace as a whole. The reason for that is that men have better jobs and are more into their career.

popa

Clearly you have never heard of the Glass Ceiling Effect.

no boss likes it when there are 20 minute conversations, and then the next 20 minutes when the third person comes in – certainly they don’t like when you play solitaire – These are very blatant wrongdoings, and the boss unfortunately has to pick his battles cause you can’t yell at all the workers all the time – but that doesn’t take away from it being very wrong – i remember one boss telling me that he once had someone check his phone bills, and there were employees that were on the phone for local calls for over 5 out of 8 hours – although i also need a break now and then for some interoffice chitchat or a walk down the coffee room, i try very hard to make up the time so that my boss doesn’t lose out.

popa

Two minutes on Wikipedia isnt going to outshine a semester w a droning professor 😉

There are many forms of glass ceiling barriers, one of them being different pay for comparative work.

I think the best answer you will get is if you ask your boss straight out?

If the boss says anything to a woman – justified or not – he immediately gets sued. If he says something to you, you get back to work.

Chesedname

Wow, words escape me.

Ralphie – Your Welcome

by my work, someone i work with shops ALL day (and talks on the phone etc) and i end up doing their work, and when i finish i like to browse the stores too. until one day someone made a comment to me saying “all you do at work is shop all day” and they were not joking…. i said “i dont _______ does i only do after i finish both our work” they thought i was kidding….. i was really offended and since then i dont even LOOK at anything! i still have not forgiven that person.

Sacrilege:

I have never heard of an instance that was not readily explainable, and apparently neither have you.

When they talk about it on the news, they talk about comparing national average salary, which is deliberately misleading since it is not comparing similar jobs.

The lack of concrete examples, combined with a known pattern of disinformation, and a clear axe to grind, make any broad statements pretty suspect.

real brisker.. You will be very unpopular at work ampong your co-workers. NO ONE likes tattle talers. Not in school and even more so at work!!

popa

The reason why you never hear the example of Miss Sacrilege went to Harvard as did Mr. Popa the both graduated Summa Cum Laude, work for the same firm yet, Mr. Popa makes 200K while Miss Sacrilege makes 125K is because there would be major lawsuits should that information come to light.

There ARE actual studies (based on the national census) that woman make 75 cents on the dollar compared to men in comparative job positions coming from comparitive education backgrounds.

That’s because Mr. Popa is a much more diligent and productive employee than Miss Sacrilege, despite seemingly similar educational backgrounds.

Another source of the disparity:

Men negotiate about their salary, benefits etc. when they’re hired and after. Women don’t. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

On the other hand, a woman who negotiates is frequently seen as being “aggressive” – which is still negative for women. Men are expected to be aggressive.

So yes, there’s a double standard. But with what’s happening in the economy now, I’d guess that men aren’t doing too much negotiating either.

The bottom line: check out the going currrent salary in your field, location, level of experience, and hold out for it. A woman shouldn’t just assume she has to take what she’s offered if it’s below the going (local) rate.

apushatayid; (To Goq) You and several other posters are misreading the name. It’s a “Que” at the end.

to goq;From your whining (and bringing out the point that you are (apparently) discriminated against because you are single, there is only one “Eitzah”. You should get a “Goquette”. In plain Yiddish. Get married. Look around in the office if there is a candidate for a goquette. Or join a volunteer organization. (while posting on YWN Coffee Room is also considered voluntary, it does not advance your Shidduch prospects as going out and socializing in any capacity will.). Also, another reason the (married)ladies in your office are allowed to yak for twenty minutes before they shmooze for another Half Hour, might be because they can get work done while yakking. Ask my sister. According to her, this is the only way work gets done. (At 3AM).