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September 15, 2010 5:42 am at 5:42 am #592359WIYMember
Is the one we have in our Sedurim the KSSH of the Arizal or is there another one that is the Arizals? Does anyone have a link to where I can get ahold of the Arizals KSSH?
Thank you very much!!!
Tizku Lemitzvos and a Gmar Chasima Tovah to all!
September 15, 2010 1:57 pm at 1:57 pm #695879Shouldnt be hereMemberKSSH of the Arizal IS NOT the one we have in our Sedurim!!
It is different selsction of tehilim and tefilos plus one Kabalistic viduy which should not be said by just anybody
Can you tell me why you need to come to the coffee room to ask.
Did someone recommend it to you? Then ask him to tell you what it is all about.
If I remember correctly the Tehilas Hashem (Chabad)Sidur’s version is at least in part based on the KSSH of the Arizal
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September 15, 2010 2:51 pm at 2:51 pm #695880Shouldnt be hereMemberDear Wellinformed.
To be a bit more direct. If you are FFB then why change from your Mesora ?? ????? ???? ??? If you are a BT then you most probably have a mentor.
If it is just to be more “well informed” I am ready to spend some time browsing in a Sefarim Store as a chesed, if you cannot do that yourself. I have a ????? ??? ?????? at home, and it has what seeems to be KSSH of the Arizal. Should I bother listing the “additional” tefilos in that sidur. I will not tell you about the “missing” tefilos.
September 15, 2010 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #695881WIYMemberShouldnt be here
I learned in a Sefer that it is a chashuv thing that people (yes regular people) should say the Arizals KSSH and it is mesaken many many things especially Keri. I figured Id try to say it before Yom Kippur.
September 15, 2010 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #695882Shouldnt be hereMemberWellInformedYid
So you seem to be a “regular guy” a FFB who is an aspiring ??? ????? .
I did a little snooping
1) The ????? ????”? has a nusach similar to the ????? ??? ?????? (btw the sofer who published this sidur is an almost contemprorary pub 5721 and he does not indicate which sidur he used) but it is a bit hard to read. If it is not all nusach ari
the zchus of the shelah is powerful in itself
2) The Tehilas Hashem has a nusach that is similar to the Shelah with the kabalistic vidue a bit “laymanized”, and definitely easier to read. (See the shelah sidur the publisher adds this viduy is from the sfer of the author. it seems that the Shelah himselg did not include it in the sidur)
3)????? ??? ?????? adds the perek
September 15, 2010 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #695883Shouldnt be hereMembercontinued I clicked send in error
???? ??’ ??? ??? & the first 4 perakim of tehilim.
Skver chasidim who say the standard east European nusach add the first 4 perakim.
I checked one sefardi sidur though their nusach is different it does not include everything in the Sidur Shelah.
let me know if you run into problems getting a siddur, we will try to figure out a way to get you a copy
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September 15, 2010 7:52 pm at 7:52 pm #695884WIYMemberShouldnt be here
Thanks for your help. I have gotten in contact with sefarim stores and they are helping me find what I am looking for. Thanks for your time and effort.
Gmar chasimah tovah.
September 15, 2010 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm #695885theprof1ParticipantYou can go to http://www.hebrewbooks.org and find many siddurim. Browse through the Tehilas H’ of Chabad and some of the other siddurim as well. And since they are PDF you can print a page or two that you can use without having to buy a siddur.
September 15, 2010 8:22 pm at 8:22 pm #695886Shouldnt be hereMemberI forgot to meantion that the ????? ??? ?????? is definitely based on a Sidur ‘Ari since he undertook the whole project because of what the Ari said abbout the maalos of davening from Ksav Ashiri & the visualization of the two forms of the Shem
For an article on Nusah ari and the nusach of Ashkenazi chasidim go to http://www.shturem.net/index.php?section=artdays&id=155
There are several ???? ???? based sidurim , ????? ? ????? ,????? ? ????,????? ???? to mention 3
to download a sidur R Shabsi go to http://www.hebrewbooks.org/21519
September 15, 2010 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #695887Shouldnt be hereMemberThanks prof great idea I did a Google on ????? ????? ?
For a tehilas Hashem sidur go to http://www.770live.com/En770/siddur/siddur.htm choose mariv
and than advance 5 pages
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