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September 6, 2011 9:36 pm at 9:36 pm #599225always runs with scissors fastParticipant
While I was standing in my kitchen ironing all my children’s clothes today, (yes with spray starch-no this is not an advert for Niagra Spray Starch), it occurred to me that all these years we’ve been buying the home delivery milk bottles, paying for it, and drinking and drinking and filling up on it, growing strong bones, there are actual cows out there who the milk came from.
I suddenly felt indebtedness and gratitude, not only to Abishter for all we have, but a sincere deep feeling towards those farm animals who loyally provide us milk.
I thought about their well fare, their lives and really sent out a message of thanks to their service. THen it occurred to me “is this right?” after all why should I thank the cow or the sun or the clouds, for their dutiful service, maybe we’re only suppose to turn our thanks to the Ribbono Shel Olam.
I guess its ok. right? Or more than ok. We should , shouldn’t we? or maybe not? what do you think?
September 6, 2011 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm #807189WIYMemberYou should be appreciative to Hashem for the cow that provides us with milk and beef.
September 6, 2011 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm #807190bptParticipantThank the cow? No, that’s what they do.
Thank Hashem for making cows do what they do, and thank the farmer for doing the work that you’d otherwise be doing (at 4:00 am, no less)
September 6, 2011 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #807191The FrumguyParticipantWhere in the sticks do you live that there is still home delivery of milk in bottles?
September 6, 2011 10:06 pm at 10:06 pm #807192bptParticipant” home delivery of milk in bottles? “
Not glass bottles. Plastic ones, that get delivered by KRM /Moshe’s (or Pomegranite, or Supersol, if you live the high life)
September 6, 2011 10:11 pm at 10:11 pm #807193always hereParticipantlol that we all thought ‘always runs…’ had her milk delivered in glass bottles into an aluminum/tin box set out next to the front door.
horse-driven milk wagon w/ a driver in a white coat & white cap <– visual 😉
September 6, 2011 10:55 pm at 10:55 pm #807194aries2756ParticipantBut Hashem wants us to respect every thing that he creates so in that sense, if you want to thank the cows go ahead. At the very least respect them.
September 6, 2011 11:30 pm at 11:30 pm #807195HaLeiViParticipantThankful and indebted is going too far. There is a point, though, in not being ungrateful, better known as a Kafoi Tov — even to an inanimate object.
September 7, 2011 12:08 am at 12:08 am #807196TheGoqParticipantty scissors that was a very moooooving post, i dont want to steer you the wrong way, and i wont butter you up, to not appreciate the cows is udderly ridiculis.
September 7, 2011 12:31 am at 12:31 am #807197always runs with scissors fastParticipantyeah ha leivi you got it. i agree
September 7, 2011 12:51 am at 12:51 am #807198always hereParticipantlol Goq! 🙂
September 7, 2011 3:07 am at 3:07 am #807199The FrumguyParticipantQuite excellent, The Goq – milking it for all you’ve got!
September 7, 2011 3:44 am at 3:44 am #807201minyan galMemberI miss the glass bottles of milk and the milkman delivering it. Life was so much simpler in those days and I think that is what I miss the most. We also had a lovely Chinese gentleman who came twice a week with fresh produce and sometimes he had eggs. He introduced my family to all sorts of (then) exotic produce such as bean sprouts and romaine lettuce. Every year during the “holiday season” he gave us a gift of fresh lychees. To this day I still love them and now that they are more widely available I buy them as often as I see them.
September 7, 2011 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #807202apushatayidParticipantI heard that on some of the more modern dairy farms, the cows have been trained to go over to the milking machines and connect themselves and get milked whenever they feel they must be milked.
September 7, 2011 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #807203twistedParticipant“growing strong bones” That is a huge debate nowadays. True, it is hard to buck the “milk and cookies are good for you” song, but some reasonable voices say that the digested milk leaves acid waste which is neutralized by the body pulling calcium from the bones.
September 8, 2011 2:03 am at 2:03 am #807204brotherofursParticipantalways here- lol that was what my vision was too
September 8, 2011 12:05 pm at 12:05 pm #807205phrumMemberDo you thank people for doing things for you, or just HaShem for making the people?
September 8, 2011 1:26 pm at 1:26 pm #807206Raphael KaufmanMemberBeing milked is also a relief for the cow. Should she thank the farmer?
P.S. Dairy cows have to be milked twice a day, every day, rain or shine, even if the farmer has to spill it on the ground as he does on Shabbos.
September 8, 2011 2:06 pm at 2:06 pm #807207oomisParticipantI appreciate Hashem for providing these things. However, that being said, did Moshe Rabbeinu not show hakoras hatov to inanimate (much less animate) objects such as the Nile River, for hiding him, by not striking it with his staff to turn it to blood? I think the Torah teaches us in genreal that we need to be makirei hatov, because if we cannot recognize the good that is done for us through simple venues, how can we properly thank Hashem and reccognize his Tov v’Chessed to us every single day for the myriad of things he does for us?
Still – I am not walking over to Elsie and saying todah rabbah. I might give her some gourmet hay, though.
September 8, 2011 2:42 pm at 2:42 pm #807208Derech HaMelechMemberI don’t hear that. The way you are describing it is something completely cerebral. Stop wearing a tie on Shabbos. If you are truly makir tov there is going to be some feeling of thankfulness. If she is tochah k’borah and she can express this feeling even to a chay, she is still not as great as Moshe who showed it to the sand. I don’t mean that a person should become a hippy and start hugging cows they pass on the way to upstate. But I see a maylah in privately having such a hargasha.
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