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  • #612767
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    All the professors and such say it exists, but I’ve yet to see any proof. are they expecting me to believe in a continent without ants?

    #1015386
    Utah
    Member

    And these professors also told you that the world is round *gasp*

    #1015387
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    No, I’ve no reason to believe either, but I’m less inclined to believe the Antarctica one.

    #1015388
    the plumber
    Member

    Your right. I never saw you rebyidd23, you don’t exist

    #1015389
    ben_David
    Participant

    I’ve never seen your brain, so you have no one. Prove me wrong.

    #1015390
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    If you don’t believe the world is round then of course you can’t believe Antartica exists.

    #1015391
    apushatayid
    Participant

    Dirk Pitt was there. If Mr. Pitt says it exists, thats good enough for me.

    #1015392
    akuperma
    Participant

    Is it not possible the entire world doesn’t exist. You are stuck in a virtual reality controlled by alien psychology undergraduates. You are the lab rat.

    Actually, such ideas date back to antiquity. I believe the ancient philosophers came up with the idea, shortly after the discovery of substances that in modern times get you arrested when driving under their influence.

    #1015393
    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    APY 🙂

    #1015394
    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    akuperma – Please prove to me that you are NOT in the Matrix (since you brought it up).

    #1015395
    Yserbius123
    Participant

    Do you believe in man-made global warming?

    #1015397
    apushatayid
    Participant

    man made global warming occurs when most people open their mouths to speak.

    #1015398
    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    man made global warming

    Try COW made global warming

    Agriculture is responsible for an estimated 14 percent of the world’s greenhouse gases. A significant portion of these emissions come from methane, which, in terms of its contribution to global warming, is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide. The U.S. Food and Agriculture Organization says that agricultural methane output could increase by 60 percent by 2030 [Source: Times Online]. The world’s 1.5 billion cows and billions of other grazing animals emit dozens of polluting gases, including lots of methane. Two-thirds of all ammonia comes from cows.

    (Howstuffworks.com)

    #1015399
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Do we have a Mesorah for it?

    #1015400
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    No, but I thought you would have figured out who I am by now.

    #1015401
    I. M. Shluffin
    Participant

    ben D: “I’ve never seen your brain, so you have no one. Prove me wrong.”

    *try none, instead of no one. Don’t get mad at me for correcting your grammar (though it could very well have been a typo.) Your sentence could have been interpreted as “I’ve never seen your brain, so you have nobody,” which doesn’t exactly make sense in any language.

    K, I’ll stop now.

    #1015402
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Well, it makes sense, sort of, as I would have nobody as a friend if I was brainless.

    #1015403
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    By the way, I never said I didn’t believe in Antarctica because I never saw it. I just never saw any evidence.

    #1015404
    akuperma
    Participant

    TO gavra_at_work who said “Please prove to me that you are NOT in the Matrix (since you brought it up).”

    We have a kaballah to rely on for proof that HaShem created the world and isn’t just playing tricks on us. The goyim (including those Jews who reject kaballah) have to rely on blind faith (which may be why they get confused a lot)

    #1015405
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    What’s the difference between the world existing and us believing that it does?

    #1015406
    Torah613Torah
    Participant

    Rebyidd, lol, I used to wonder the same thing! Does it matter if our actions matter, or if we believe it matters?

    In the end, I decided that since Hashem cares about our Kavana in our actions, it must be that what we believe also matters, not just our actions. What do you think?

    #1015407
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    What about how we believe we act?

    #1015408
    ben_David
    Participant

    @I.M.Shluffin

    It was a typo, thanks. At first I wrote ” no brain” then I realized there was a repetition of “brain”, so I deleted it and tried to write “none”……without giving much attention to what I was typing.

    I’m a polyglot, and you’re right, it doesn’t make sense in any language.

    #1015409
    gavra_at_work
    Participant

    We have a kaballah to rely on for proof that HaShem created the world and isn’t just playing tricks on us.

    So you claim. Who says the idea wasn’t planted in your mind to make you a docile battery?

    What’s the difference between the world existing and us believing that it does?

    Nothing. Since the world is only a “Yesh” as long as the Ribbono Shel Olam decides to keep it that way, it makes no difference whether we actually exist (as the beings and entity that we see) or not.

    #1015410
    ben_David
    Participant

    @redyibb32

    By the way, I never said I didn’t believe in Antarctica because I never saw it. I just never saw any evidence.


    If something is self-evident, it doesn’t need evidence.

    Have you ever seen evidence of you having a gelatinous organ some charlatans call “brain”?

    #1015411
    squeak
    Participant

    Torah-

    Philosopher and mathematician Rene Descartes offers a definitive answer to that age old question. Poor guy, life’s not easy for a boy named Rene :). Lucky for us he went the academic route instead of hunting down his father.

    #1015412
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Yes, I’ve seen them, I’ve experienced the wonderful powers of my own, can’t say same for Antarctica.

    #1015413
    ben_David
    Participant

    @rebyidd23

    Any evidence your “powers” come from the brain you claim to have, and not from…the soul (for example)?

    Any evidence you have powers?

    #1015414
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Yes, as much as anything else in this world.

    #1015415
    ben_David
    Participant

    Your rather feeble answer just proved you have no powers. Ok, I’m outta here. 😀

    #1015416
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Typing is a power in itself.

    #1015417
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Idaho does not exist either.

    #1015418

    My potato says it does.

    #1015419
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Your potato is flat.

    #1015420
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    THE “STATE” OF IDAHO: THE CASE FOR

    OPEN DEBATE

    If you would ask any schoolchild how

    many states there are in the United

    States, you will get the same answer: 50

    — fifty states in the Union. It is simply an

    accepted “fact.” If you would disagree

    with this supposed “fact,” you would be

    branded insane or worse. However,

    mounting evidence shows that there are

    in fact only 49 states in the US, and the

    “state” of Idaho is a baseless myth.

    We have been trying to distribute and

    publish this information for over *two

    years*, but our scholarship has not been

    given any respect. We have been

    censored, vilified, ridiculed and spat

    upon by the “traditional” geographers

    and historians, but WE WILL NOT BE

    SILENCED!

    All we ask is that the existence of the

    state of Idaho be debated, as every

    other historical and geographic “fact”

    can be debated. Time after time, our

    opponents have refused to debate us on

    the FACTS. This alone should tell you

    something about the people who support

    the “existence” of this “43rd state.”

    Please read the following evidence VERY

    CAREFULLY, and you will be astonished

    at the veracity of our cause.

    THE POPULATION MYTH:

    Do you know anybody from Idaho? Do

    you know anybody *who knows

    anybody* from Idaho? According to the

    1990 “census,” there are over one

    million (1,000,000, or 1 x 10^6) people

    living in Idaho. But if there are so many

    Idahoans, where are they?

    Some people have come forward and

    claimed that they were born and raised

    in “Idaho.” But *every single person*

    who made this claim have been shown to

    be frauds and charlatans. These

    “Idahoan wannabes” are invariably

    inconsistent with each other about the

    size (in square miles or square

    kilometers) of “Idaho,” about various

    town and village names, and even about

    the names of “Idaho’s mighty rivers.”

    THE SIZE FARCE:

    According to traditional geographic

    sources (created entirely by people who

    believe in the existence of Idaho, and

    probably the Tooth Fairy, also) the

    “State” of Idaho is more than twice the

    size of Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire,

    Rhode Island, Connecticut and

    Massachusetts *combined.* Isn’t it

    strange that a state with such vast land

    resources has so few people? And even

    of you look at a map, (created by the

    Idaho-centric cartographers) the “State”

    of Idaho is dwarfed by its much larger

    neighbor, Montana.

    SATELLITE EVIDENCE:

    Recently declassified weather satellite

    information, showing the entire

    continental United States, shows

    absolutely *no evidence* that there is

    any state where “Idaho” is supposedly

    located. Noted experts in the field of

    interpreting these pictures unanimously

    agree that, from outer space, it is

    impossible to determine the borders of

    this elusive “state.” Yet meteorologists

    and cartographers routinely overlay

    these satellite pictures with the outline

    of states that would seem to indicate

    Idaho’s existence.

    PHOTOGRAPHIC “EVIDENCE”:

    Many people, skeptical of the clear

    evidence that Idaho does not and never

    did exist, point to photographs that

    they’ve seen in encyclopedias and

    postcards seeming to show parts of the

    state of Idaho.

    It is important to note that a photograph

    without a caption is often meaningless. A

    picture of people in boats surrounded by

    mountains could have been taken in

    Colorado or Nevada, but when the holy

    *caption* says that this is a picture of

    the “Salmon River” in “Idaho,” gullible

    readers tend to swallow this information

    whole *without any further

    examination.*

    We have examined literally hundreds of

    these “photographs,” and the ones that

    are not outright fakes are all clearly

    taken in other parts of the nation.

    ASK THE JAPANESE:

    It is well known that Americans are

    woefully ignorant about geography,

    which is one reason why it is so easy to

    fake an entire state here. Not

    surprisingly, most of the effort to create

    the illusion of Idaho has been expended

    in the USA.

    But if you would ask a typical Japanese

    or French schoolchild about what he/she

    knows about Idaho, you will usually get a

    blank stare. People who are much better

    at geography than Americans have

    never heard of this “great state.”

    THE POTATO MYTH:

    Any given supermarket in the United

    States has sacks of potatoes clearly

    marked “Idaho Potatoes.” People make

    the assumption, that when they are

    buying these potatoes, that they were

    *grown* in the “state” of “Idaho.”

    Actually, “Idaho” is a type of potato, just

    like “McIntosh” is a type of apple. The

    FACT is that *many* states have potato

    crops, as well as foreign countries, and

    potatoes that say “Idaho” on them are no

    more from Idaho than Baltimore Orioles

    all come from Maryland.

    SO, WHAT’S THERE?

    Nothing. THERE IS NOTHING THERE. We

    have been so brainwashed by the

    traditional mapmaking community to

    think that if Idaho doesn’t exist, then

    there must be some sort of vacuum

    there instead. This is nonsense.

    The very shapes and positions of the

    states, and indeed of every nation on

    the planet, is only known through

    “information” provided by cartographers.

    It is akin to asking “if Santa’s house isn’t

    at the North Pole, then what’s there

    instead?”

    THE CARTOGRAPHER CONSPIRACY:

    The *only evidence* that there is a state

    called Idaho comes from maps.

    Everybody has maps, in almanacs, in

    encyclopedias, and on the walls of every

    elementary school classroom in America.

    Astonishingly, *over 99%* of all maps are

    created by *cartographers!* If any

    clearly defined set of people would

    control any other important industry to

    that degree, everybody would be up in

    arms about the undue influence given to

    a meager few. However, for some

    reason, Cartographers are immune to

    such criticism. Any mention about the

    Cartographer influence over the

    mapmaking industry (and, as a natural

    extension, OUR VERY THOUGHTS!) is

    dismissed as “lunacy.”

    As an indication of how insidious is this

    influence, just think: have you ever

    questioned a map? Maps, being

    graphical objects, require much less

    effort to assimilate into our very

    psyches. Behavioral studies show that

    people can much more readily

    understand maps than printed

    descriptions of geographical areas; in

    fact, the images on maps tend to go

    directly into the subconscious of Man

    (Homo Sapiens) without the critical

    thinking that accompanies reading. In a

    very real way, Cartographers are the

    *real* Thought Police.

    But they do not work in a vacuum. There

    are much too few of them to do their

    real damage unaided. Mapmakers have

    conspired with the editors of almanacs

    and encyclopedias to create a fantastic

    illusion of space where there is none,

    people where there aren’t any, and ski

    resorts where none exist.

    ONLY THE BEGINNING:

    This is only the tip of the iceberg. We

    have much more material on this

    conspiracy, and we have yet to uncover

    one iota of evidence that Idaho has ever

    existed. All of the so-called “evidence” is

    a mixture of falsifications, coercions, lies

    and exaggerations.

    The Cartographers would like nothing

    better than to silence us. If you do not

    see any more postings on this subject,

    then you have clear evidence that their

    Conspiracy of Silence on Idaho has

    succeeded, and that Freedom of Speech

    has been curtailed by the Cartographical

    Thought Police. What can you do? All we

    ask is that you be open minded. Of

    course, you cannot trust any of the

    second-hand evidence that you would

    find in libraries, maps (!), airline

    schedules or street signs. All you can

    trust is what we have written here. We

    are confident that once you evaluate all

    of the valid evidence, you will be

    angered by this conspiracy, and

    motivated to do something about the

    scum who perpetrated this hoax.

    #1015421
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    There are actually much less than fifty states in the Union, not counting the Confederacy that broke off.

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