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Or too few? Or just the right amount?
Any animals killed to be eaten, are just the right amount.
Any killed to use their fur for clothing, are perfect use of the animals.
We kill way too many mice, but not enough terrorists.
Joseph: What’s the source for your statement that killing animals for fur is permitted? That may have once been the case when there were few other alternatives, but what right do you have now to torture/kill a living being because you want (in your opinion) to look good?
A bigger I issue, I think, should be about mistreating animals so that they’ll taste better. Like veal, which comes from 2 year old calves grown up in essentially boxes.
Yankelle, Hashem created animals for our use in food and clothing.
But if you shoot them, they are not kosher.
If you want to eat ’em, shecht ’em. If you want to wear ’em, shoot ’em.
Joseph: What’s your source for that, especially now that there are so many alternatives?
The Torah teaches that the earth has been given by Hashem to human beings, in general, and then to the Jewish people. And therefore, anyone who questions the right of mankind to use the flesh of animals, is questioning the authority of the Torah and the dignity and primacy of mankind.
The Torah also teaches that we shouldn’t waste our resources.
That sounds like a non-sequitur to me, Joseph. How does being given the earth translate into killing animals for appearance? Would you also say that hunting or bull-fighting is permissible under the same grounds? I agree that Hashem gave us the planet, but along with that comes a responsibility to treat it well, the same way that Hashem have us our bodies, but we are not permitted to do whatever we want with it just because it’s ours (i.e: tattoos, smoking, etc…). And what about tzar balei chaim? Doesn’t that come into play?
Hunting for fun and bull-fighting is prohibited. (Tzar balei chaim, et al.) Hunting for food and clothing is permitted.
Give the other parts to needy families or something. Otherwise you might run into bal tashchis.
Why do you classify clothing as a necessity, as opposed to fun or luxury, like hunting or bull-fighting? If anything, clothing made from animal products is more expensiveness than their synthetic counterparts, so it is certainly not a necessity for (almost) anyone to wear animal products. This is especially true of fur, which 99.9% of the time is only worn as an adornment.
Do you kill too many bugs. (Do you sing while killing them?!?)
Man has the right to use animals to make leather wallets, other leather products, upholstery, interior decorating, fur for hats, coats, clothing, etc. Hashem provided animals to man for all these purposes.
Joseph: you keep stating your opinion as fact without any substantiation.
Yankelle, I’ll answer you in a new thread.
My personal believe – and this is just me – is that for every animal that I consume for food or clothing, or what have you, I devote 10% or the cost towards charity towards animal wildlife protection. It’s just something that I personally believe. My hope is that corporations who use animals for profit be it eggs, dairy or what have you devote 10% of their gross profits towards animal welfare.
What does animal welfare mean, that this money is being spent on?
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