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October 8, 2010 4:43 pm at 4:43 pm #700429YW Moderator-80Member
no
but apparently my taste buds are
October 8, 2010 4:44 pm at 4:44 pm #700430blinkyParticipantOh well maybe youll change your mind after you taste my aristocratic cooking. Good Shabbos!
October 8, 2010 4:57 pm at 4:57 pm #700431SacrilegeMember“but apparently my taste buds are”
Thats just because most “Traditional Jewish” food is really bland and boring. What you probably tasted had some spice and depth of flavor. Not what most people are used to.
October 8, 2010 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #700432YW Moderator-80MemberThats just because most “Traditional Jewish” food is really bland and boring.
i dont think so
cholent with onions and garlic
chicken soup floating with schmaltz and a strong leek taste
pickled or matjes herring
gefilte fish with pungent horseradish
moo goo gai pan
October 8, 2010 5:10 pm at 5:10 pm #700433blinkyParticipantfried oily donuts
crispt potatolatkes
cheesecake
fluffy soft kneidlach
whats moo goo gai pan?
October 8, 2010 5:15 pm at 5:15 pm #700434squeakParticipantThat’s a lot of cholesterol!
Oh, and if you don’t speak Cantonese, you can just say stir fry.
October 8, 2010 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm #700435SacrilegeMember“cholent with onions and garlic
chicken soup floating with schmaltz and a strong leek taste
pickled or matjes herring
gefilte fish with pungent horseradish
moo goo gai pan”
I think I just threw up in my mouth.
But yes all those wouldnt be tasteless if that was your point.
October 8, 2010 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #700436YW Moderator-80Memberthat was my point
October 8, 2010 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm #700437mybatMemberMod 80,Hop on over, i just hope i dont dissapoint you!! 🙂
October 8, 2010 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #700438YW Moderator-80Membermoo goo gai pan
a traditional Jewish food often served in “chinese” restaurants
October 8, 2010 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #700439YW Moderator-80Memberill be right there!
October 8, 2010 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #700440SacrilegeMemberblinky – Cheesecake and donuts arent a Jewish food.
Matzoh Balls are bland unless you dump a load of spicy into them, bit traditionally they are floating balls of bland.
October 8, 2010 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #700441YW Moderator-80Membernothing wrong with cholesterol
in fact a good proportion of the cell membranes, endoplastic reticulum, golgi apparatus, and lysozomes of all the billions of cells in ones body are composed to a large extent of cholesterol
October 8, 2010 5:25 pm at 5:25 pm #700442squeakParticipantIf so, why the stir fry? You should switch it out for corned beef.
October 8, 2010 5:28 pm at 5:28 pm #700443SacrilegeMember80 – “golgi apparatus”
I didnt know you were a fan of Phish 😉
October 8, 2010 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #700444squeakParticipantModerator-80
Mr. 80
a traditional Jewish food often served in “chinese” restaurants
This reminds me of a story that sheds some light on the mistake in your definition.
A Chinese man was debating with a Jewish man whose culture was oldest. The Chinese man said, “We have tradition going back 3,000 years” and the Jewish man counters, “But ours goes back 4,000 years!”
The Chinese man raises his eyebrow and says, “Oh, yes? What you people eat for the first 1,000 years?”
🙂
October 8, 2010 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #700445YW Moderator-80MemberIf so, why the stir fry?
“squeak”
that was added only for the purposes of humor
i prefer corned beef
even better (and spicier) is pastrami
October 8, 2010 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #700446YW Moderator-80Member80 – “golgi apparatus”
I didnt know you were a fan of Phish 😉
you lost me sac
October 8, 2010 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #700447YW Moderator-80Membernevermind
i googled phish golgi
October 8, 2010 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #700448squeakParticipantI thought we were binging from now on?
October 8, 2010 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #700449SacrilegeMembersqueak – thats a cute joke.
October 8, 2010 5:43 pm at 5:43 pm #700450YW Moderator-80Memberyou apparently are the only Jew in america that hasnt heard it before
October 8, 2010 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #700451SacrilegeMemberProbably…
October 8, 2010 6:18 pm at 6:18 pm #700452squeakParticipantAnd here I was thinking it was Mod80 who was the only one who hadn’t heard it… after all, it wasn’t Sacrilege who defined stir fry in that way
October 8, 2010 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm #700453YW Moderator-80Memberit was that very joke b’etzem that caused me to define it in that way
October 13, 2010 5:15 pm at 5:15 pm #700454demoMemberin my daughters seminary-now closed down-not only did they not learn how to cook-actually they didnt learn anything at all-but the school didnt even have a kitchen so the meals were ordered in from a restraunt every day. my daughter can make scrambled eggs,macaroni and cheese from a box and baked chicken with potatoes.when she gets married i have no problem paying the couples pomegrante bill.they make delicious food.home cooking is highly overated
October 13, 2010 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #700455WIYMemberDemo
Not everybody has that kind of money to burn or is that lazy.
October 13, 2010 5:42 pm at 5:42 pm #700456so rightMemberdemo, no way! you’re just testing us!
October 13, 2010 5:48 pm at 5:48 pm #700457tzippiMemberIt would be nice if the high schools offered home ec. By the time a girl gets to sem she should have some exposure to the kitchen and that’s more than enough.
Really, how much should she learn to cook? What if her husband has totally different tastes? Some exposure, familiarity with the kitchen, tools, etc. is more than enough.
October 13, 2010 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #700458blinkyParticipanttzippi- my high school offered home economics, i guess not every school does.
October 13, 2010 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #700459demoMemberit has nothing to do with laziness.i love the kitchen some people dont. she could grow into baking and cooking or she might never develop a feel for it.im just saying in todays day its not the worst thing if a girl cant cook. can every boy fix his own car?of course not, thats why there are mechanics.
October 13, 2010 6:10 pm at 6:10 pm #700460WIYMemberDemo
I think cooking is something that’s a daily requirement to feed ones family and makes more sense for a woman to know how to do than a man knowing how to fix a car which doesn’t need fixing that often. I need a mechanic 1-2x a year. Most of us eat 3x a day.
October 14, 2010 3:17 pm at 3:17 pm #700461tomim tihyeMemberWIY-
You may want to start a Hingarishe recipes thread so your wife will be ok despite her probable lack of formal training:)
October 14, 2010 3:49 pm at 3:49 pm #700462WolfishMusingsParticipantOf course, it’s possible to learn to cook without any formal education in high school or seminary.
I’ve been told my food is quite good* — and I didn’t even start learning to cook until well after I graduated high school.
The Wolf
* So much so that my kids consider it a big treat when I cook something. Personally, I think Eeees’ cooking is much better than mine, but she and the kids disagree.
October 14, 2010 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #700463WIYMemberTomim
Lol. Not a bad idea.
October 14, 2010 4:58 pm at 4:58 pm #700464oomisParticipantNot a bad idea, IMO. Aish HaTorah, and Aish Hamitbach.
October 14, 2010 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #700465WIYMemberWolfish
How did you get into cooking? I’m a guy and I don’t want to be an am haaretz in the kitchen I want to know how to make some good stuff besides grilling a good steak.
October 14, 2010 5:26 pm at 5:26 pm #700466theprof1ParticipantWhile it’s true that the majority of girls attending seminary won’t become full time teachers , not life career teachers anyway, the reason for seminary existence is to give the girls an additional shot of immersion in Torah and yiddishkeit. These are the essentials of a yiddish family today, in the 21st century. We don not live in Europe. And in Europe before WW2 the gedolim foresaw the need for a bais yakov type of education. I said this earlier in this thread. The girls are the ikeres habayis. They are the ones who will be showing their children how to grow up as Torah true yidden. The little boys and girls don’t see their fathers davening. They do see the mother davening at home. The mother helps them with their yiddish homework. What’s the use of a fantastic cheesecake with zebra effects on it if the wife/mother has no appreciation for learning developed by her high school and seminary studies? Yes to some extent seminary is the 13th grade of high school. But it’s the capstone to their learning. It’s the foundation stone to their Torah and yiddishkeit life.
October 14, 2010 5:32 pm at 5:32 pm #700467SacrilegeMemberWIY
“I want to know how to make some good stuff besides grilling a good steak.”
Believe me a perfectly grilled steak is a hard thing to come by. Not a bad thing to have in your repertoire.
October 14, 2010 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #700468WolfishMusingsParticipantHow did you get into cooking? I’m a guy and I don’t want to be an am haaretz in the kitchen I want to know how to make some good stuff besides grilling a good steak.
Practice. Start with some recipes from cookbooks. Once you’re comfortable with those, begin making some changes to them and experimenting.
You won’t be a master chef overnight (I’m not anywhere close to it even now), but in time, you’ll learn to prepare a meal. As it stands now, I can prepare an entire Shabbos meal* by myself, if necessary.
The Wolf
P.S. — for the record, I don’t know how to grill a steak on a barbecue. 🙂
* Well, except for the challah. While Eeees will allow me to cook for Shabbos, she jealously guards her challah-making privilege. 🙂 But I’m not complaining — she makes the BEST challah in the world — and she bakes it every week (except Pesach, of course).
October 14, 2010 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #700469sof davar hakol nishmaMemberback to the original topic about sems teaching how to cook…
“I would rather my daughters have a strong foundation of Torah knowledge than know how to bake a cheesecake. “
SJS – i think that’s the first time i actually agree with you.
you can learn how to cook and clean “on the job” if you didn’t learn that at home. But strengthening and attaining strong hashkafos FOR LIFE. (that can literally change the course you chose to take in life) that’s not something that happens every day. And if your mother is one of those who doesn’t let her kids into the kitchen, try cooking by a married sibling/aunt. and don’t worry, many women who are great cooks today started out not knowing how to do ANYTHING!
October 14, 2010 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #700470SJSinNYCMemberWolf does she share the recipe?
October 14, 2010 7:24 pm at 7:24 pm #700471theprof1ParticipantMy wife attended two seminaries, Bais Yakov in Montreal one year and then Esther Schonfeld in NY a second year. Result? Could quote the Ramban any day but had no idea how to cook water for coffee, literally couldn’t. Within 3 years she was an outstanding cook by reading cookbooks. Result? Was able to learn with our children and eduacte them the 1st years of their lives; and she can bake a better cheesecake than any Satmar girl steeped in Home Economics with no idea why we take arba minim on succos.
October 14, 2010 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #700472WolfishMusingsParticipantWolf does she share the recipe?
I can probably get it from her.
The Wolf
October 14, 2010 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #700473SJSinNYCMemberSof Davar, welcome to the dark side 🙂
October 14, 2010 8:50 pm at 8:50 pm #700474says whoMemberI agree that there is no need to teach how to cook in seminary, you can teach yourself after marrige. The point is something else, that many women are resentful for having so much time wasted on housework, they’ed rather learn more Ramban. That is a problem.
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