Do Kiddush Clubs still exist?

Many Chassidish shuls have kiddush clubs, it’s not something exclusive for Modern Orthodox shuls. There are several shuls near my parents which are known for being basically hangouts for tuna beigels and other near-off the derech Chassidim. They all have unofficial kiddush clubs.

Funniest story was once when my brother overslept and ended up at the 9:30 shteibel minyan. Halfway through Chazaras Ha’Shatz Mussaf he realizes that there’s barely a minyan in shul. The rov stops the chazzan for a second, goes to a nondescript door in the back and bangs on it going “Nu? Nu?”. Door opens to a room packed with men, kugel, cholent and whiskey.

So your comparing MO to Chasiddishe hangouts?

So lets put it this way, it is rare to have a kiddush club in a chasidishe shull. (unless its a near off chasiddishe or tuna beigle shull..)

Yserbius123

This is not true, I have been to plenty Chassidishe shuls, I have not seen any eating and drinking while davening. especially not in any mainstream chasiddishe shul.

Yserb

I think you are talking about the smaller shtieblach and the more “cool” chassdish shuls. I think an actual chassidiusses shul like Bobov or Satmar is much more serious although I cant say for a fact because I dont Daven there but I have seen what goes on at certain Chassidish shuls so I know what you mean.

I’m not talking about smaller shuls (although shtieblech definitely have that issue) I’m talking about the main shuls for various very big Chassiduses. I guess I can be dan l’kaf zchus and assume that those people davened at earlier minyanim, but in most of the Rebbish shuls I’ve seen, you are guaranteed to find at least two rooms where there is a minyan or more sitting around eating and drinking while the main davening is going on.

It’s simply inconceivable that a Chassidus where thousands are davening at their Rebbe that there *aren’t* a few dozen who sit it out. Combine that with the openness that Rebbish shuls usually have, being more of a community center than a shul/beis medrash.

So now it has changed to a few sitting out from official kiddush clubs.

I have not met an official kiddush club in any mainstream chassidishe shull.

I wouldn’t want a minyan in my house, bec then I’d need to be on time.

It is the people who used to be reformed or conservative Jews and are now modern orthodox that join kiddish clubs for the most part.

No, that isn’t the case.

2scents: Sitting out, “official” Kiddush club, does it make a difference? Fact of the matter is a lot of people come to shul to socialize and drink during davening. In most shuls it’s not tolerated and all the food and drink is locked up until davening is over. In some old fashioned Modern Orthodox shuls, Chassidishe shteibels and Rebbishe batei k’nessiois it’s not only not discouraged, but there is a large enough and kavuah enough chevra to say that it’s almost encouraged.

We have one at my current shul.

What’s up with the 6 year gap, were all the Kiddush club members in alcohol induced comas?

I have always considered any walkout of daveners right before or during the rabbi’s speech/sermon/devar Torah to be an insult to the rabbi. And so (regrettably in my opinion), as long as there are rabbis, there will be kiddush clubs.