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July 27, 2011 4:37 pm at 4:37 pm #790563bombmaniacParticipant
im hungry
July 27, 2011 4:40 pm at 4:40 pm #790564adorableParticipantbomb- and so? go get food!
July 27, 2011 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #790565YatzmichMemberAdorable:
From where?
July 27, 2011 6:51 pm at 6:51 pm #790566adorableParticipantare we related? where do you live now?
July 27, 2011 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #790567bombmaniacParticipanti actually got a caramel donut and a container of sliced mango. and 2 energy drinks 🙂
July 27, 2011 7:21 pm at 7:21 pm #790568adorableParticipantomg you are making me so hungry can i have some too?
July 28, 2011 1:19 am at 1:19 am #790569mw13Participantaries:
“…unless you know how to help the child or you know what the situation is, then in all honestly you are not looking to help anyone just to pass on information.”
Why do you assume that is the case? Why can’t the informant just be alerting the parents of the situation so they can deal with it?
“In your interpretation it might not be messirah at its highest level where it involves the authorities and goyim, but none-the-less, if you masser on someone no good will come of it.”
The way I see it, there are two seperare dimensions to this question: one is a Halachic question, and one is a Hashkafic question.
If you’re addressing the halachic aspect here, I’m not quite sure what you’re saying. I am not aware of something being more or less assur in halacha; it’s usually either a yes or a no. So something would either mesira and assur, or it would not be.
If you are looking at the hashkific aspect of the question, then you are definitely entitled to your own opinion (even if I completely disagree with it). But let me ask you this – if your child was ch”v being mechalel Shabbos, wouldn’t you want somebody to let you know about it?
“Stay out of it, it is NOT your business… Everyone that passes through the life of a child has an obligation to that child.”
Aren’t those two statements contradictory?
And why can’t the witness’s “obligation to the child”, as you so eloquently put it, be fulfilled by setting the parents (who presumably know the details of their child’s situation far better than anybody else, and are therefore far more qualified to act) on the case?
Oh, and sorry for the late response.
bobmaniac:
Huh?
July 28, 2011 2:26 am at 2:26 am #790570adamsParticipantAlot of times I see kids off the derech in the sense that they come into the Kosher store where I work with out a Yarmulka not even a cap.
The parents I know are very active in the SHule and community.
So in this case, the parents know. But I am upset by my attitude.
I say to myself what is the big deal to wear baseball hat, they davka want everyone to know.
As a parent, what with the struggles to pay their tuitions as well as all else, it seems very snotty and ingrateful that they can’t even wear a cap.
But why do I have this holier than thou attitude? Let’s say I am even right that they are rotten kids, what gives me the right to be so judgemental?
July 28, 2011 3:00 am at 3:00 am #790571HaLeiViParticipantTo tell a parent that you won’t let them know what their child is up to if YOU can not directly get involved, than you are just being disgusting, and perhaps professional!
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