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I’m at a dinner tonight. First they sang the star spangled banner. So I stood up. Then they sang Hatikva, so I stayed standing. Then I sat down. But they started saying tehillim. (?) So I stayed sitting.
My sister-in-law gave me grief. I said, “I stood for Obama, I stood for the tzionim, I also need to stand for Hashem?”
I think your sister-in-law has her head on straight.
I think Popa has his head on crooked… or maybe backwards
why didn’t you just get up again?
Popa had his head on backwards but he was thinking straight.
head on backward + thinking backward = thinking straight
assuming your body is facing the right way…
Your wife never gets on your case? ever?
I was once at an aufruf in the Mir, one of the roshei yeshiva was talking and everybody was being very attentive. Rb Chaim Shmuel Lopian z”l though was enjoying his apple strudel, I was very impressed by this (although I never have understood anything he says on shev shmatsah)
You should stand in respect for Dovid HaMelech, kavod hamalchus.
I wanted to eat nuts and shmooze with my brother.
don’t you mean you wanted to BE nuts
Notice also, how it was my brother’s wife and not my wife who got on my case. My wife knows better.
did she get on your brother’s case too? (I’m guessing not, b/c she knows better too)
In general when you go somewhere where you are expected to shut up and behave, it is sufficient to follow the rules for the first three events e.g. shabbos morning shacharis, leining, mussaf. You should stand for both national anthems, and the tehillim. Shmooze during the speeches. You aren’t listening anyway.
popa, you cant be serious. that’s awful. i feel bad that that’s the way you think.
Popa: still have the Blackberry?
You guys don’t have to take popa seriously. Ever heard of a troll?
what’s a tehillim performance?
something specific to the US or do we have those, too?
PBA,
you still didn’t answer my question,
and anyway if you really want a heter I can tell you that since the group you were in didn’t give chashivus for saying Tehillim (they sand HaTikvah before it) then you didn’t need to either, so you wouldn’t need to be Yotzei Min Haklal
why didn’t you just get up again
I wanted to eat nuts and shmooze with my brother.
So it has nothing really to do with standing or sitting during tehillim but everything to do with saying with or ignoring tehillim
I’m surprised you didn’t walk out in protest by hatikvah.
What happened now, pops?
SiDi™
Have you picked a phrase to take shots to?
This thread is really upsetting me. There is trolling, and then there is trolling like this. This form of trolling makes me sick. How could someone speak so dismissively of tehillim? Something is wrong with this.
Popa, whoever you are- heres a message from someone that cares about you: Someday, you will stand before a heavenly court and they will ask you how you could speak this way of the safer tehillim. What are you going to answer them? I understand that you feel the need to troll. But this thread is going beyond all limits! Somewhere under that tough exterior of yours is a neshama. Take good care of it cuz its your most valuable belonging.
The star spangled banner belongs to the United States of America, not its president.
Popa
“b”h had neither tehillim”
The Mashgiach would vehemently disapprove of this line.
WIY which Mashgiach is THE Mashgiach?
Goq
The Rav or Rebbeh of Emunas Yisroel.
WOW!! PAPA is a mooney???
papa: You’ve been exposed! Are you one of the oldies or new ones?
the-art-of-moi,
This thread is really upsetting me
Whenever popa_bar_abba trolling appears sacrilegious on the surface, there is usually something going on under the surface, a subtle point he’s trying to make.
I don’t think popa_bar_abba is objecting to saying tehillim. It sounds to me that he feels like these events he’s going to are cheapening the tehillim by sandwiching them between national anthems and speeches, and treating them as a performance to be watched rather than a service of the heart. His posts are essentially mirroring the attitude towards the tehillim that these events engendered, which is a form of satire.
The fact that he doesn’t explain the satire and lets the denizens go nuts with outrage is what brings his satire to the pedestal of trolling.
PBA – sorry if I’m ruining your fun 🙂
Okay you’re from the newer ones…..
Avrahom in MD-
Thank you for the explanation. I still think there are more appropriate ways to make a point, though. Don’t sacrifice the kavod of tehillim so easily.
While I know this is not really the point here, can anyone explain to me why tehilim should be said standing ?
It’s harder to eat nuts inconspicuously while standing.
Popa, since when is a Moony angry at the Chasidim?
Popa, if you are truly an original Moony, would I have to tell you THIS?
Popa; wow, you really fooled me all this time! I won’t try to figure out which one you are because of the
CR rules but…..
Thing is, maybe popa was fooling you into thinking he fooled you or fooling you into thinking he was fooling you into thinking he fooled you, et cetera.
Popa
I know many of the early talmidim and I don’t believe you are one of them. Either way you can’t be a true talmid of the Moshgiach because his strict stance against internet use is well known and I doubt a talmid would have the chutzpah to so disregard his Rebbe. Most of his mispallelim don’t even have Internet and have Kosher phones. Additionally a talmid of the Moshgiach would not waste his time here typing ridiculous and many times Halachically and Hashkafically inappropriate things. You can say you once learned by him but ddon’t be motzi laaz by calling yourself a talmid.
My brother lives and breathes Rav Wolfson. I only wish he didn’t have internet. Not that he does anything he shouldn’t, but he lives alone and it’s not recommended.
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