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December 9, 2010 5:01 am at 5:01 am #979994simchallthetimeMember
Yeh, the CGM can drive u a bit mad at the beg. it def takes getting used to!! And u should know that it’s a bit delayed that’s why ur seeing diff numbers, if ur body is dropping quickly u usually won’t see the drop on the cgm till a bit later (too late I should say) so when u feel low, u should really check with a monitor…sort of defeats the purpose of the CGM but…it does help once u get the hang of it!
btw which one did u get?
December 9, 2010 2:30 pm at 2:30 pm #979995forever1MemberAgree with simcha, ther’s a huge learning curve. Abt. the rise, that is exactly why pre-bolusing is important, to minimize that rise/drop. Does your pump calculate active insulin into the correction bolus? If so you shouldn’t have a problem correcting, it’s supposed to deduct any insulin still active.
December 9, 2010 3:57 pm at 3:57 pm #979996cofeefanMemberi got the dexcom 7 plus…..
forever- what is pre-bolusing?? never heard about that before….
yes my pump does calculate active insulin but i tend to panic when i see my numbers going up…. i don’t like that lol!
now i have a massive cold so my numbers are whacko anyways so thats not making me happy…..
December 9, 2010 4:16 pm at 4:16 pm #979997forever1MemberPre-bolusing is bolusing before you eat. It takes a good 1/2 hr or more for insulin to have an effect on blood sugars. Most foods will start raising BG before that, taking insulin 20 -30 minutes b4 eating can prevent that unwanted spike.
Cold here too 🙁 My numbers are totally out of control this week.
December 9, 2010 4:49 pm at 4:49 pm #979998allsgr8ParticipantIts really strange cuz my #s dont usually go crazy when im sick but what is weird is that if i sleep late like till 10:30-11:00 my numbers are nuts the rest of the day! Even if i eat a regualar breakfast my im high two hours after eating it… Its really annoying cuz it happens almost every Sunday! Anyone else with that issue?
December 9, 2010 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #979999cofeefanMemberoh i should try this prebolusing sounds really helpful thanks!!
allsgr8- i dont have that problem because of the pump… are you missing an injection you usually give in the morning? cuz ur system is used to having the insulin…. but in my opinion… sleeping late is TOTALLY worth the high numbers!! it’s funny that you don’t get affected by sickness…. the tinest thing makes it nuts by me! i guess it affects us all differently!!
December 9, 2010 7:03 pm at 7:03 pm #980000allsgr8ParticipantNo. I am not missing injections thats whats weird! I guess your right though- its worth it! 🙂
December 10, 2010 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #980001mi2Memberare there any females that are on the omnipod pump? If yes where are you wearing it?
December 10, 2010 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #980002cofeefanMembermi2- yes i am on the omnipod… i wear it on my stomach or back and sometimes on my thighs!
allsgr8- that is very odd why that happens if youre not missing an injection…. ever ask ur doc abt that?
December 12, 2010 4:51 am at 4:51 am #980003allsgr8ParticipantCofeefan- nope never asked! maybe i should though..she’ll probably say its the “dawn phenomenon” which i dont think it is!
December 12, 2010 5:05 am at 5:05 am #980004cofeefanMemberthe what????
December 12, 2010 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #980005allsgr8ParticipantLOL! the dawn phenomenon is a phenomenon that blood sugars tend to rise during the predawn hours. This means that someone can go to bed with lets say 105 and wake up with 175…doesnt sound like my issue because many times I wake up fine and then 2 hours after breakfast ill be high and then the high is hard to bring down all day long!!! VERY annoying
This is from the mayoclinic:
December 12, 2010 6:11 pm at 6:11 pm #980006mi2Membercoffefan- do you have any pros and or cons in regard to the omnipod pump? have you been on it long?
December 12, 2010 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #980007cofeefanMemberallsgr8- interesting!! thanks!
mi2- i have been on it for about 2 years now…. the pro of it i would say is that it’s wireless and very discreet…. no one sees it even after i point iyt outt to them. its painless to insert and easy to learn. and it has some cool features like a food database, extended bolusing etc.
the cons are that it has ALOT of occlusions (when the tube for some reson gets an air bubble or something that causes the pod to diactivate) and sometimes you can waste a big amount of insulin… i once had to change it 5 times in one day thats 1000 units and the company no longer replaces the pods that have an occlusion… i also dont like that the only alarms are loud beeps and there is no vibrate mode but thats just me… i like it to be quiet….
overall i am happy with it and it helped me get my numbers in good control! are you thinking about getting it?
December 13, 2010 7:20 am at 7:20 am #980008forever1MemberAll. could it be from food from the night before? Like something high fat? The dawn phen. Makes a more sence though …
December 13, 2010 10:21 am at 10:21 am #980009tralalaMemberHi, did anyone had this? being very high(like 350), bolusing every 2 hours ,without results, changing everything, etc. then after many hours, all insulin starts to work and a few lows one after the other.
Do you know what i’m talking about?
December 13, 2010 3:52 pm at 3:52 pm #980010allsgr8Participanttralala- Yup! sounds familiar! What I usually do is that if after 2 shots its not going down I try to do some exercise so maybe the insulin will get “activated” -not sure if it makes any sense but it works some of the time. I also dont usually shoot or in your case bolus less than 3 hours apart bec it gives the insulin more time to work.
December 13, 2010 4:28 pm at 4:28 pm #980011mi2Membercoffefan- I am thinking about it and am researching different pumps I like the wireless feature. by the way I spoke to some one on the pod and they said they draw the extra insulin out of the pump and reuse it in the next pod not if there is a few units left but if there is alot, they`ve had no problems doing that
December 13, 2010 10:34 pm at 10:34 pm #980012cofeefanMembertralala- it is my most annoying part of diabetes when i have unexplained and uncontrolable highs! i use a temp basal on my pump and try to stay away from carbs and try to do some exercise like allsgr8 suggested and eventually it goes down (too down sometimes like you said….) good luck!!! hope you feel good!!
mi2- you can take the insulin out?? thats cool i never thought of doing that! thanks!! i hope my info on the omnipod helped you… i really like it! what other ones are you looking into?
December 13, 2010 11:43 pm at 11:43 pm #980013HealthParticipantAllsgr8 – What about the Somogyi effect?
December 14, 2010 12:04 am at 12:04 am #980014cofeefanMemberhealth- is that when you have a very low blood sugar so the liver releases glucose to bring it up but it gives too much that makes it go really high?
December 14, 2010 4:44 am at 4:44 am #980015allsgr8Participanthealth- I dont think so cuz sometimes I wake up fine and then once I have breakfast is when it goes high and i cant bring it down the rest of the day
December 14, 2010 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #980016HealthParticipantThis is from a diabetes web site:
What is the Somogyi effect?
During periods of hypoglycemia, the body releases hormones which cause a chain reaction to release stored glucose. The end result is that the glucose level can swing too high in the other direction, causing hyperglycemia.
How can you test for the Somogyi effect?
This is the fun part. Set your alarm and wake up between 2 and 3 a.m. and test your blood glucose. Low blood glucose levels could signify the Somogyi effect is in action.
What can I do to correct the Somogyi effect?
Have a snack with protein before bedtime, like a piece of toast with peanut butter, or some cottage cheese, or yogurt, or some nuts and small piece of cheese.
Go to bed with a glucose level slightly higher than usual.
Ask your doctor about having the CGMS test (see above description).
What is the dawn phenomenon?
How can I treat the high fasting glucose readings caused by the dawn phenomenon?
Several options are worth considering:
Exercise later in the day, which may have more of a glucose-lowering effect in the night.
Talk with your doctor about a possible medication adjustment to control the higher fasting readings.
Limit bedtime carbohydrates and try more of a protein/fat type of snack (nuts, peanut butter, cheese, or meat).
December 14, 2010 6:51 pm at 6:51 pm #980017cofeefanMembervery interesting health thanks!!!
December 15, 2010 1:13 am at 1:13 am #980018cofeefanMemberi just went to donate blood and while they were taking it i started to feel really saky like my blood sugar was low and nauseous and hot etc…. i had to have them takke it out and drink etc (i was soooo embarassed!!) you guys think it was because of diabetes or just a regular reaction to the first time donation?
December 15, 2010 2:56 am at 2:56 am #980019allsgr8ParticipantCongrats on giving blood!!! Tizku L’mitvos!
I would say it was probably just the fear of giving blood for the first time…
sometimes when im VERY nervous about something i feel low even if im not
December 15, 2010 4:12 am at 4:12 am #980020cofeefanMemberi feel that way too when i get nervous but this was extreme.. and when i tested after they let me get up it was 69 but before it was 114…. it was weird…. but BH they got enough blood that they could use it so it wasn’t a waste…..
December 15, 2010 4:44 am at 4:44 am #980021allsgr8ParticipantThat is strange…dunno sorry!
December 15, 2010 8:29 am at 8:29 am #980022tralalaMemberNot strange at all! what I have lately, is as part of a panic attack, I go low! and this happens in the weirdest places, weirdest times, and with company I really feel embarrased with!
December 16, 2010 4:07 am at 4:07 am #980023simchallthetimeMembermi2: which pumps ru considering? If u want some info about the minimed I’m definitely gonna ‘pump’ that choice
December 17, 2010 3:25 am at 3:25 am #980024cofeefanMemberfunny simcha!!
thats an interesting theory abt panic attacks tralala now that i think about it it makes perfect sense i always feel like that when i’m nervous (i always feel low before a date…. lol) still doesnt answer my question about the blood though becaus emy blood ACTUALLY did go low not just the feelings… i wanna know if you think it was because of the donating blood (which would make sense because if theyre taking blood then the sugar level is going down…) or if it wouldve gone low in any case… just so i know if i should try again next time or not…
December 17, 2010 3:55 am at 3:55 am #980025allsgr8Participantcofeefan- I dont believe the sugar level would go down if your losing blood becuase the ratio of sugar to blood is still the same regardless of how much blood you have…
LOL about the dates..i always feel low before a date but i already know that its a figment of my imagination! I usually make sure im a bit high becuase i dont wanna take any chances!!!
December 17, 2010 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #980026mi2Membersimchaallthetime- where do you wear the pump? Do u fine the tubing to be annoying? What pros or cons do u have with it? Any info would b helpful, thanks
December 20, 2010 5:39 am at 5:39 am #980027cofeefanMemberhow does stress affect blood sugars in your opinion? any of you have any theories about that?
December 20, 2010 12:17 pm at 12:17 pm #980028tralalaMemberstress? for me it goes low,low, low, but for others it goes very high…
December 20, 2010 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #980029allsgr8ParticipantStress= HIGH. The strange part is that I feel low but when i check im high!
December 21, 2010 2:53 am at 2:53 am #980030simchallthetimeMembermi2: I wear the pump either in a slip with a pocket down the front (you can find it at uniaccs.com- half slip)It’s really convenient,the tubing goes straight down the slip so u don’t feel it at all … Or some other times I wear it in a leg cuff from (tandjdesign.com)
coffefan: I donate blood all the time, and never had a problem with my sugar dropping. Funny that u mention it cuz the last time I went I really felt like I was going low, I tested and was in normal range, twas really weird. Btw, Who’d u donate for? Bikur Cholim? Chai Lifeline?
December 21, 2010 4:02 am at 4:02 am #980031cofeefanMembersimcha- i donated to bikur cholim… im gonna try again next time it comes around! about the slip you were talking about… think that i can fit my sensor in it? i am having trouble because i don’t have pockets in all my clothes and it needs to be within 5 feet of me….
December 22, 2010 12:38 am at 12:38 am #980032simchallthetimeMemberWhich sensor r u talking about? I think it should fit, check out the website, I’m sure it says the size of the pocket there, check if it’s the right measurements, btw if it doesn’t you can always make ur own; I bought the slip from uniaccs but didn’t exactly like the thick material it has as opposed to the reg one I’m used to wearing (found in any lingerie store…) so I bought a pc of black slinky fabric and sewed my own pocket onto the slip, It’s great, I wear it all the time! (P.S. and it came out cheaper in the end, cuz in local store the slip costs about 18-20 and the material costs mayb 5…)
December 22, 2010 4:39 am at 4:39 am #980033cofeefanMemberi’m on the dexcom seven plus cgms. that’s a GREAT idea about making a slip thanks a ton!!!
December 26, 2010 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #980034cofeefanMemberwhere is rebbetizn?? haven’t heard from her in a while!!
January 5, 2011 3:10 am at 3:10 am #980035cofeefanMemberit’s alomost my 9 year “anniversary”… do you guys “celebrate it in any way? do you ignore it? i like to have that day PERFECT Blood sugars! it’s a weird little thing like they have to be in 80-130 range just for that day! anything you guys do on the day you were diagnosed?
January 5, 2011 6:14 pm at 6:14 pm #980036allsgr8ParticipantCofeefan
Congratulations and may you be zocheh to have many more healthy, happy anniversaries and iyh also a wedding anniversary soon too!!!
My family always has a small seudas hoda’ah on the day I was diagnosed. We go through all the details about the day/week that it happened and bh we could laugh and cry together!
January 6, 2011 4:21 am at 4:21 am #980037cofeefanMemberthat’s a nice idea! my family doesn’t even acknowledge it realy besides my mother and oldest sister. i like going over the details in my head though… like “nine years ago at this time i was on my way to the hospital or Just getting into a room” etc
does any one care to share their stories if when/how they were diagnosed? or any stories from the beginning? (i am feeling very nostolgic lol)
January 6, 2011 4:38 am at 4:38 am #980038frumladygitMemberCofefan, stress affects blood sugar levels by playing around with the hormone cortisol released by the adrenals. It is meant to raise blood sugar levels so that if one is being attacked by a bear, you have the adrenaline “fight or flight” response. However living a stressful life style day in and out takes its toll on the pancreas and adrenal glands.
Coffeefan, when it was first detected I had it, I was in denial for almost 10 years, and I didn’t test or eat properly all that time! B’H, I am Type II. To be honest, its even hard for me to address this group, or to find myself in a diabetes group in the coffee room, as I feel its not me. However, I am in control of my lifestyle and insulin today, and blood sugars are good. I guess its not so bad to admit to it today.
I actually had it in my first pregnancy. 18 years ago. They warned me its likely to come back in 10 years. Well on my kids’ 3rd birthday, I ate left over cake for 3 days after the party, and one day my aunt who is a diabetic said “Lets just test your sugar.” So I was agreeable, for fun, I suppose. And I hadn’t eaten in a few hours, but it was 13.5 or something. SHe looked full of sadness at me, as if I just told her someone had died, and she said ” I am so sorry you are diabetic!”. I just laughed and said whatever. Stop acting like that. Now I realize why I was so thirsty all those years. I began taking humulin N and humalog as needed, all within the past 5 years, regularily. And with the diet To Learn Control (TLC) i almost need no insulin, Thank G-d!
But I really don’t like to talk about diabetes.
January 6, 2011 4:56 pm at 4:56 pm #980039allsgr8ParticipantI posted my story a while back i think..but if u wanna hear it again. It was about a week before my sisters wedding when i started feeling very thirsty..bathroom..thirsty..bathroom again etc. two days after the wedding i started feeling horrible, nauseous, no energy. I lay in bed for like three days and thought it was a virus that wld pass..well it didnt. On Friday night of sheva brachos I was home alone with a babysitter who was watching my cousins at my house. I started to vomit but she didnt even come up to check on me 🙁 Meantime i couldnt fall asleep cuz the kids were screaming and keeping me up ( later I realized that this was the biggest bracha because had I fallen asleep I would have never woken up! c’v!)
Eventually my parents and family came home from sheva brachos, took one look at me and said “We’re calling Hatzola!” So i ended up in the ER! First thing they did was check my blood sugars and they were somewhere between 500-600! They took it again and then made the diagnosis! The doctor in ER told my parents the “He THINKS I’ll make it” and that he had a kid last week who didn’t….BH I have a lot to be thankful for!!!!!
Anyone else have interesting stories?
January 7, 2011 2:07 am at 2:07 am #980040cofeefanMemberWOW allsgr8 what a story!!!!!
mine is not that interesting…. i had been complaining about not feeling well for a while… my parents thought i was just pretending to be not feeling well so i wouldnt have to go to school because i couldn’t really explain what was bothering me (and i was kinda that type if i’m being honest….) so my mother took me to the doctor. my doc was running late so she asked the nurse to do blood work etc before she came in. when she came in we could tell something was wrong. she toold us that my blood sugar was very high and that i have diabetes and that i was lucky we caught it. she sent me to the ER and i spent 10 hours there with my mother and sister until we got a room. we met doctors (THE BEST DOC I EVER HAD!!!)and we saw that the signs were there all along. i spent a week in the hospital and then a few days home from school after that. i remember just wanting to get back to normal, i guess it’s just a different normal to me now!
January 7, 2011 3:21 am at 3:21 am #980041allsgr8ParticipantCoffeefan- I guess you were lucky enough to catch it earlier..I ended up spending 3 days in the hospital.
I like ur last line! The truth is I cant imagine living without D and i only have it for 3 yrs..Sometimes I look at ppl eating and im thinking to myself – u forgot to check ur sugar first! lol
January 7, 2011 4:20 am at 4:20 am #980042frumladygitMemberwow allsgr8 that is some dramatic story !!! I never contemplated how dangerous diabetes can be. But its true, one can go into a coma with such high sugars.
You know one night, I was sleeping and my blood sugar was dropping, although I only woke up once it reached 1.2!!!!! This was my scariest diabetic story moment as far as low sugars is concerned. My husband literally had to hold my cheek just to keep my mouth open so the straw would stay in so I could drink sugary soda.
January 7, 2011 4:39 am at 4:39 am #980043cofeefanMemberallsgr8- thats funny how you think people should check their sugars! i guess it’s normal for u!
flg- wow that is really really scary!!! i can’t imagine how afraid you must have been!! bh i never had such a story! i have been BH BLI AYIN HARA scare free for the 9 years!!!
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