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Bout this whole genetic thing… I know I am late but just wanted to share what I have heard:
You will not get an argument from me about people getting diabetes because Hashem wanted them to. Obviously, as believing Jews, we believe that. We also believe that people lose their job because Hashem wanted them to. Does that stop us from trying to find and keep a job? Of course not. As believing Jews, we believe that a person gets sick because Hashem wanted them to. DOes that stop us from seeking out the best doctors, spending any amount of money on medicine and treatment? Of course not.
Similarly, just because a person only gets diabetes because Hashem wants them to, doesnt mean we shouldn’t try our absolute best to prevent ourselves from getting it. With type 2, it’s simple. Try to eat right and exercise and you are doing your hishtadlus. With type one, its a lot harder. Doctors don’t know what causes type one diabetes, and so we don’t know what hishtadlus to prevent it is. We do, however, know that (and this is coming from doctors and rabbanim who know a lot more about the topic than any of us on this forum) when two people with type one diabetes have kids, the risk of the kids having type one diabetes are much higher than when only one (or no) parent has it.
That’s why the advice I got is not to date boys with type one diabetes, and that is why (I believe) Rabbi Meisels is against it in most cases. You can ask your own shayla, but in general, it is not reccomended.
BOSD -Good Advice!
Anyone familiar with a resource that details carbs for different wines? I know Rabbi Meisels once put something out but the list was far from exhaustive?
Has anyone ever looked into the following for the carb/8 oz?
White Joyvin
Moscato de Asti
Is there a general rule of thumb to use?
Can we stop discussing shidduchim and kvetch about our awful numbers over yom tov? :-/
My numbers were actually pretty good bh! I wouldnt say great though…I was very generous with the insulin maybe a bit too generous and i got low after two of the meals but there’s plenty to eat so it was fine bh.
There’s one thing though that gets me nervous. On yom tov or shabbos when i eat a late meal sometimes what happens is that my numbers are within the range when i go to bed but when i wake up they can be like 160 ish or even in the 200’s! I always get very frustrated about it cuz i hate starting off the day high especially when i know im gonna be eating a ton of carbs that day (or for the next three in this case!!!)
health- i don’t understand why you feel the need to be mean about everything.. could be you were joking (it’s hard to tell in typing) but i did not find it funny and i just want to say i’m beginning to take offense from you it’s really not fair…. now i’ll let it go because i’m trying to work on myself….
BOSD i 100% agree with you and if i recall i never said we shouldn’t do our very best i was just trying to make everyone stop going sooooo deeply into genetics! i’m sorry if you took it the wrong way but trust me when i say i know we have to do our best!!
over yomtov i foumd it really hard to estimate how much to bolus at each meal therefore i was on a roller coaster.. too high then too low etc. after 4 meals i had enough and ate salads and low carbs i can’t deal with another set of 6!!!!!
I must have been using bad insulin. My numbers were high high high. And the worst is waiting for kiddush with a sandpaper mouth…
CF -It’s called being sarcastic. I don’t know about you, but a lot of people have the attitude -I don’t have to take care of myself -it’s all in Hashem’s hands. A person has to make histadlus, eg. eat healthy & exercise -this is v’nishmartem.
BOSD oysh thats the WORST!!! mustve been so so hard!!! i don’t know what i would’ve done!
health-i’m definately npt the type who does nothing i do as much as i could… eat right, exercise daily, bolus correctly, go to the doctor every 3 months etc…. i do my hishtadlus…. i was just saying Hashem decides because i wanted people to stop argueing about genetics… (and while were on the subject….i happen to believe that there is a lot of genetics involved in diabetes and i would NOT marry someone with it because i don’t want this life for my kids.. but i also know that it doesn’t come ONLY from genes as i do not have any one in my family from either side for generations back, that had any form of diabetes, type one, two or gestational. but i do think genes do have an feect to some extent so i don’t think a blanket statment can be made as to if it is or isn’t hereditary, we’ll never know the truth so that is what i meant by my comment about Hashem. and if you re read my comments you will see that i never claimed in any way shape or form that we don’t have to do our part, and if i did please point it out to me so i could corrrect my mistakes..)
Helth, that’s what I was tying to bring out, thanks.
BOSD, sounds like a nightmare, I was dealing with bad inuslin most of the summer, no fun:( aren’t you allowed to drink water b4 kiddush, especially in such a situation?
Yom Tov = crazy numbers. I don’t think I can ever figure out these foods. My numbers were much better on shabbos.
BOSD- why was ur mouth like sandpaper? am i missing something?
na i did not have a hard time this yom tov but then again my mother makes food that does not have sugar and i was real careful. and yea you can drink water before kiddush and even eat something if your sugar is low. anyone tasted the new honey its disgusting!!!my mother bought it and ew its horrible!!!
i don’t eat honey because i just don’t like it (its just sooo sticky!!!!!!)so i dont have th extra sugar problem!
and sometimes drinking water with sandpaper mouth just doesnt help does anyone find that?? i hate that feeling!!!
can someone please tell me what this sandpaper mouth thing is about? is it because ur naturaly thirsty or does it have something to do with ur numbers??
I always laugh when my father puts the honey on my challah cuz he puts such a tiny bit as if that’s gonna make all the difference! if i stopped eating dessert and ate a 1/2 tsp honey i’d be better off! LOL
sandpaper mouth for me is when levels get realllyy high so i get reeeeeeeaaaaallly thirsty that my mouth feels heavy and gross!!!
i really dont know whats this sandpaper feeling but when i was younger at night i used to have major bedwetting, it was so embarrassing and i was not a little kid but boruch hashem now know how to control my sugar and the pump is great.
i had same problem before i was diagnosed mosh3
Thanks for the explanation cofeefan!!! When im high i feel fine which i guess is a good thing but also may not be so good cuz i cld be high for hours without knowing so until i decide to check my numbers…
yea i know thats what happens to me when i am high i feel ok its when i am low than i sweat and shake and feel neusous so i know i gotta check myself. so i check myself often to make sure that my numbers are good. but as you see i am 17 years old and going thru a growth spurt so i eat all the time which is good for me cause then i have to check myself
for me it’s the opposite.. i always feel horrible when it’s the sligghtest bit high (the higher it gets the worse it is..) but a lot of times i only start feeling low a tiny drop [like i would think it’s in the low 80s…] and it’s very low like in the 50s!! it’s really scary because i really think it’s not that low…. i learned to always test my levels the second i start feeling not completely perfect….
Highs make me extremely agitated and as a result has a negative effect on my behavior:( I also get very hungry which doesnt help much to the situation. My numbers have been on a roller coaster this YT. I can get it to settle at a decent number:(
I find that if i have lows too frequently i get less senstive to them while if my numbers have been great for long and then im 75 i feel like im 65!
forever1- r u sure ur insulin is good? maybe ur using a bad batch!
I’m still crzy high all day. its like drink, run to the bathroom and repeat. Its awful. 🙁
BOSD- how high are u?
BOSD maybe it’s a bad batch of insulin? check for keatones!
allsgr8, don’t think so, it’s rather a bad batch of cake:)
LOL! i always tend to blame the insulin not myself!!!
thats the best thing to do! i do it all the time too =]
help i am getting sick and my numbers are going out of control! they always do when i am coming down with something….. i hate it cuz it always makes me feel worse than i already do? i can’t get my numbers down! anyone have any advice??
CF -I hate to tell you this -but go to the ER.
Have you tried a temp increased basal? If yes, have you tried increasing it?
health-no reason to go to ER forbstrep throat but thanx
forever1- i did 10%increase u think thats enough? i don’t wanna do too much higher cuz im scared of lows
I usually do 115% to 125% somtimes even 130%, maybe try increasing it grudually by 5% increments…
Coffeefan- maybe try staying away from carbs completely (or at least almost completely) and just correct for the highs until its under control….
coffeefan its okay to go high when you are sick esp. when having strep but be careful if you go too high. you might wanna call rabbi meisels he has some great ideas and really knows his stuff and i totally agree with you do not go to the ER my mother used to work there before she got cancer and let me tell you that place is a zoo and not a place for normal people!!! unless you have a real emergency my suggestion is do not visit such a place only yo volunteer if you got time!!!!!
thanks everyone your suggestions and advice were much appreciated!! i did what all of you said and now i’m only a little high as opposed to really high! now lwt’s hope the anibiotics don’t make it go up more… does anyone ever have problems with medications other than insulin? generic brands of everything make me crazy!!
totally every time i get sick like even a dumb cold my numbers go high but its expected at least that what my doc said
i dont think i’ve ever noticed a change in # due to meds…glad ur feeling better cofeefan!
Hope your feeling better by now. I don’t think antibiotic caused trouble to my numbers. BH for that:)
i get such issues with certin medications it’s the weirdest thing! i wonder why that’s only me….
cofeefan- e/o has different reactions to things..i know that I cant eat scrambled eggs without covering with insulin for it..last i checked it was a protein..go figure! …it doesnt mean there’s something wrong dont worry!! 🙂
so, how r the A1c’s doing out there? Am I the only terrible one that doesn’t manage to get it lower than 8!! HELP!!
I just took lab work and im goin to the doc on friday so ill let u know then…8 is pretty high though I havent been over 7 bh over the last year probably (maybe even more) baruch hashem!!!The only time i was over 8 was way in the beginning -like the first few months. do u think its cuz of yom tov or is it usually like this? what was the previous A1c?
my last a1c was 6.7. thats very good for me my doc was very pleased! i was very proud and shocked it was that low i made them double check. because for some reason as good and in control i am i can’t get it lower. the main thing is that we try our hardest and i definatly am!
cofeefan- Great Job! KEEP IT UP! anything under 7 is good 🙂 I find that the key to having good A1C’s is making sure ur nights are really in the range (and more to the lower side lets say 80 instead of 110) The few months that my nights were good my A1c’s were fantastic.
hello, my a1c’s are also above 8! i try soooo hard! and what can i do?! and i’m in shidduchim…so i’m really in trouble!
can I ask if ur overweight because even though type 2 is more affected by weight i think that even type 1’s whos weight is within range have better control..speaking from experience, i bh am thin but I do fluctuate by a couple of pounds and I always found that when I weighed as little as even 3-5 pounds above my normal weight it was harder to control my numbers. When im at my thinnest my numbers are MUCH better. (well maybe the reason is becasue usually when ur at ur thinnest ur not eating cake!! 🙂 but seriously i think it has something to do with it….
When u say u havta get ur numbers under contrl cuz of shidduchim what do u mean? is it cuz ur worried abuut after ur wedding? (preg) or like is the boy gonna ask u what ur last A1c was -as if he’ll know what it is lol
i’m reg. weight..could lose like 10 pounds..but i’m not considered fat…and i’m nervous if the boy does check into these things..and yea, for after-pregnancy…oysh..Hashem should help!!
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