desensitized to cursing

Hi princess cape , first of all I admire you for being in touch with urself that you feel that what you’re doing is wrong and i have to tell you that I had the exact same problem. I used every word out there like all them time. And then I realized something that helped me out tremendously. Smart and classy people don’t use street language aka curse words. The educated and aristocratic men and women don’t use it on a daily basis. That means its for the commoners. I’m a princess and therefore I will sound educated and upperclass and not use foul language. And that’s how I stopped because I put it beneath myself to say such things. And judging by your username you agree to be a princess . A princess is a princess because of the way she acts and speaks….

I went through something similar many years ago. I was in an environment with a lot of cursing and grew used to it and used the words myself.

Leaving that environment really helped, but it took a while. The words were sort of “part of me” but just as they had become part of me they eventually stopped being part of me.

I think I did also consciously try to stop using them, and practiced some alternate means of expressing myself. It was weird at first; I felt like my expression was sort of restricted. That went away eventually though.

Hatzlocha raba!

Princess- I think this will be a habit that will take more than 8 h to break. Keep up the good work.

I noticed that co-workers usually avoid the crude language when they were in my presence, which goes to show you that who you hang out with will affect how you speak. Try to stick with friends with refined speech, you will find yourself talking like them.

The educated and aristocratic men and women don’t use it on a daily basis.

Donald Trump is pretty aristocratic and he uses nivul Peh on a daily basis., Dick Cheney also used it quite frequently

Donald Trump is not aristocratic. He has loads of money. There is a difference. How about frum Jews who use pejoratives like “shvartze” and “shiksa” (which comes from “shaketz”)?

There are other nivul Peh Yiddish words that seems to have lost meaning to some and people use them on a regular basis even though that they are nivul peh according to their real meaning

It’s assur.

Are curse words worse than cursing?

Zahavasdad, words often change their meanings. I wonder how city dwellers would feel if they knew that the word “villain” comes from “ville” (French for “city”). More to the point, there are words which are normative in one language but nibul peh in another. I knew a Russian speaker who would not use the Hebrew term for “post-dated check” because it is similar a word that is nibul peh in Russian.

Lightbrite, according to Prof. Google there are three definitions of “aristocratic”:

1. of or relating to the aristocracy.

2. distinguished in manners or bearing.

3. grand; stylish.

Scared, the Gemara (Shabbat 33a) says that because of bad language many troubles and evil decree come and young anti-Semitic men (lashon sagi nahor) die before their time. The power of speech distinguishes us from the animals and thus comes from the tzelem Elokim. One who uses bad language sullies his neshama.

AviK, that refers to talking about inappropriate things, not using meaningless words which common society has decided are bad.

It depends if society just randomly decides that door is a bad word and you have to say goozack instead, or if a word has a reason for being a bad word.

SDD – I think it’s only the words that actually have bad meanings that are considered assur halachically. There are other words that I was always taught are curse words, but they don’t really have bad meanings, and I think they are technically mutar. Frum people don’t usually use those words because they are unrefined and it is appropriate for a Bas Yisrael and a ben Torah to speak in a refined manner, but I think they are not actually assur.

The Gemorah says Someone that talks Nivul Peh even if he has destined for him 70 good years that will be changed for the bad CHSV

Is it acceptable to say it in your part of the world, and if so, can you tell us what it is?

What is an etymologist and what is their connection? You are making me very curious, but I guess I shouldn’t be thinking about it and trying to figure out what it is.

Less chumras- i don’t know what non-jewish music u listen to but the ones that i listen to definitely have curse words and i do find myself slipping those words now and then into my vocabulary! (I know it’s not good but i’m trying to work on myself!)

JA – that’s the reason why one should refrain from listening to goyish music. Maybe if it’s too hard to stop altogether, you could at least find goyish music that doesn’t have nibul peh? Does all goyish music nowadays really have nibul peh? I don’t think it used to be like that. Maybe you could find old music to listen to.

He said Literal Meaning. Some words or phrases dont have a literal meaning but rather means something else. Like the phrase “Time Flies” It doesnt literaly means time flies

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A person and his words are one. One’s speech define him/her, describe him/her. It echoes off one’s character.

And the opposite is also true. One who works to refine one’s speech will attain character refinement as well.

Find different music to fall asleep to

what happened to the last post? why was it taken down?

JA – can you try to find Jewish music that you like or goyish music that doesn’t have curse words?

If that doesn’t work, and you still can’t sleep, melatonin and/or Advil PM work wonders. I have had serious insomnia for years, and now I take melatonin and Advil PM every day before I go to sleep, and Boruch Hashem, I rarely have a problem sleeping.

Instead of Advil PM, there is something that is a better choice, healthwise. I don’t know what it’s called exactly (night ____ , I think), but it’s the same as Advil PM without the Advil part.

In America, you can get all of these things at any pharmacy without a prescription.