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Just curious, whats everyone’s view on davening or praying however you want to say it from a smartphone or Blackberry? Is it frowned upon? I sometimes do this when i don’t have a siddur on me.
Is it better to mispronounce or even skip words?
where can I get the siddur app for blackberry?
If you dont have a siddur gezunta heit, What wouuld be the other option? Otherwise if you are accessable to a siddur use it.
I can’t see where there would be anything INHERENTLY wrong with it, BUT you MIGHT be opening up the possibility for 2 problems:
1) Maaras Ayin – Some people, seeing you looking at the BB while davening, not knowing you are davening, might (obviously, wrongly)think, “hey it’s OK to check a BB while davening”.
2) Leefnai EEvair – People, knowing it’s wrong to be scanning your BB during davening, but NOT knowing you are using it to daven from, might condemn you, in their own minds or to others, for not being able to tear yourself away from your BB even while davening.
At the bottom of the page on the left, under the “PDA” category, choose blackberry. All downloads for the BB are there. You will probably have to download the font pack and possibly the “hebrew reader” first. I downloaded (and really like) the Nusach Ashkenaz version. There is also sefard and I believe nusach Ari.
I would say to try to daven with a siddur but if necessary use a blackberry rather than nothing at all. For example, a blackberry would be fine at a wedding but not in shul.
sorry to say but IMO, I veryy highly doubt that people would be dan lekaf zechus
Why would you care what other people think? You’re doing what is correct- davening from a text. If people think you’re doing something wrong, then they have the problem – not you.
the guys in my family have davening in their ipads, bbs etc. i think its wonderful. u never know where u might be and need a siddur. it also gives u any additions which need to be said that day , such as rosh chodesh, chanukah etc.
they have megilla and other prayers as well.
lovebeingjewish
That scene is just too funny!!
“i think Gd would rather us pray from a siddur than an electronic gizmo.”
He wants you to say all the words, slowly, clearly and with kavana. If you dont have a siddur, then the electronic gizmo, as you call it, is a fine substitute. I wonder if just after Guttenberg invented the modern printing method and siddurim were published for the first time, if people asked, if I dont have my handwritten siddur, is it ok to use one of those bound volumes that looks a a novel. Who knows maybe people will think I’m reading the latest nachman seltzer (or his equivilant).
i think Gd would rather us pray from a siddur than an electronic gizmo.
I think God wants us to daven. The mitzvah is to daven; as long as it’s done in a meaningful way, does it really matter if it’s from a siddur or a “gizmo” (or by heart, for that matter)?
I don’t think there should be any inherent problem, however, if when you receive a text or a call it will show up while you are davening then I think it is not appropriate because it will disturb your concentration even if it is on silent.
i totally agree with AinOhdMilvado
another point is that people will be looking at you and thinking what a chutzpa how can this guy do this during davening(thinking you are texting or something) and it will cause them to spend their whole shmoneh esrei looking at you
I have seen peolpe doing the daf on their phones at weddings.
Chayav. Since we are dealing in a situation where there are no siddurim, is it such a stretch to assume the person is davening?
Doing the daf. I’d prefer to learn the daf. You can download the entire shas, or individual masechtos at jewishcontent.org
I use AndDaaven on my Droid X
Its great to know I have a siddur and brachos in my pocket at all times. The only time this is an issue is on shabbos. I always say that Jews will keep the printers in business….
I would say Bishaas Hadchack it is ok, its just that realize your talking to GD and all of a sudden your friend or whomever texts you and you stop concentrating on Hashem and you concentarte on him/her…that is a problem. But hey, i am not a Rav yet, so ask your LOR.
If you need it, use it. Why not? just be sure to turn on the “airplane mode” which will halt all calls, texts and emails.
A siddur does have the advantage that its used exclusively for davening which will bring a certain feeling with it. Like you said, you kiss it… 🙂
Davening from a Blackberry or FOR a Blackberry?
My Nokia 5160 still works great and it even has games on it, like Snake.
Is it any different than learning from the telephone or computer or radio or video?
Ask your LOR. Generally a person is not allowed to hold objects while davening but there are exceptions. A determination must be made whether a PDA used as a siddur is such an exception.
I don’t have a BB, but I sometimes use http://www.idaven.com
apushatayid obviously you are yotzei davening from a blackberry but its not ideal. if there are no siddurim its also obvious that its better to use ur blackberry than daven without a siddur
FIrst of all, why should a blackberry be less fit to daven from than a siddur? Is it because of the dreaded “T” word?
The only real issue is one of “tarud,” i.e. a lack of kavanna. It says that one should not hold tefillin while davening because he will be worried about dropping them and hence not concentrate properly. Most poskim extend this chshash to anything valuable so it might be better to avoid holding your expensive phone during shmoneh esrei even to daven from it. Personally, I daven by heart.
I have insurance…
So daven gezunterheit.
If you have an iphone. Great apps from “the rusty brick”. Not sure the exact name, but their siddur only displays the things you need on that day. on rosh chodesh yaleh viyavo, hallel etc…will be there, but not the next day. chanuka or chol hamoed, the appropriate kriah.
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