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Moish-
I’m not going to ask you if you’re happy but I want to know if you’re comfortable in the situation you’re in right now, as in if right now if someone told you your younger brother was also 16, and in the exact same situation as you. Would you do anything to stop him? Or would you let him continue?
you’re kidding right?
i’m going to be very honest. of course i would interfere.
a sister of mine? i’d freak. a brother? yes, i would try to do something. and a child? i’d probably cry because there’s only so much a parent can do.
I know this is coming on as a very challenging type question but its not really.
so you’re aware that you’re in a (kind-of) jam here. why would you feel a greater need to get a sibling out of it than yourself? (BTW, I’m not talking about a child here where I think the situation would be completely different you’re not a parent and neither am I)
ames, i’m always honest. this is the internet, right? trust me, face-to-face there’s no way i would have come out and said ANYTHING that i said i here.
kapusta, i think i’m going to pretend you didn’t say that.
i don’t have an answer for you.
the only thing i could tell you is that, i know i’m hurting myself in the long-run. but right now i’m living it up. i’m in it and i’m not willing to give it up.
ames, now that i’m thinking about it i’m a little surprised i actually wrote it. even if it’s what i think. i guess i sent in that message too quickly… 😉
hey did you moderators purposely wait till after five minutes to post my message? i’m reading it now and i don’t like the way that message sounds. can i edit it or something?
Sorry moish01, wasn’t intentional – YW Moderator-42
Ok, as long as we got that clear now one more question
what do you think would happen that would cause you to change? I assume you’re planning on something to break your “schedule” so why would it as long as you’re taking everything as it comes along?
BTW, I am apologozing again, I do not intent to challenge you here, thats just the way its coming out. sorry :/
can’t answer that. no idea. i’m 16 – i haven’t exactly planned out my life.
OK you’re playing it safe, and I can’t say I blame you. Let me try again, what would make you want to change, what do you respect that may come out and make a difference?
kapusta, can i ask you a question back? why are you asking? it doesn’t bother me – i couldn’t care less, but why are you so interested?
who says i don’t wanna change right now? part of me probably does. just not ewnough. i cna’t answer these questions – they’re too unrealistic.
moish, why do you keep on asking everyone-why do you care? we care because we do . i know i should’nt write this but i think you are very touched in your heart that so many people care about you. get some sleep, and have a good week.
no i’m just wondering why he’s asking such random questions. and i can’t sleep now – i feel like i just woke up (which i kind of did…)
yeah, I was trying to establish the fact that you do want to change, even if you may not realize it. and btw, its not that the questions are unrealistic, they are, you’re probably just not at the point yet where you realize that it is. just one thing, one day, hopefully soon, something will happen to differentiate your life right now from the time as you say when you’re 30, Shomer Shabbos and married with a kid(s) and this “change” might not hit you in the face, so please remember this cyber-ville conversation and look for it becuase I think enough of you wants to change to actually do something, its just that you have a very strong opposing side, (which will hopefully lose strength as you get older) but if you’re not looking out for it, you’re stuck because no ones dropping a pail of water on you with any signs in life, and there is no one in this world, as wonderful as they may be, that can change you, aside from yourself.
kapusta: it’s 3:43 in the am!!!! could ya try some less in dept stuff!!!! i’m not saying ya shouls stop this…i’m just statin the obvious!!!!
no, asdfghjkl – it doesn’t bother me. i just don’t have answers. if i had answers i’d be a lot more settled in whatever i chose to do.
btw moish, just to establish a fact, im a she
asdf this is when I’m sharpest, not to say I’m ever not sharp or anything…
oh my bad. sorry Ms. Kapusta. it’s sort of hard to know around here.
kapusta & moish: alrighty you both, sorry to intrude then!!!
all forgiven mr. Moish man… just please keep somewhere in the recesses of your mind what I told you… and if you had answers there wouldn’t be any purpose to life. nor would you have choice…
sorry asdf
kapusta: it’s me who should be sorry, not you!!!!!
fine I’m not one to take away credit where credit is due… jk!!!!! (btw, was that your sig?)
haha moish so u htink the guys are girls and the girls, guys? you should probabaly switch whichever u think from now on jkjk 😛
teen lol sorry for putting a damper on anyones enthusiasm for this thread… Moish you kinda left me in the lurch over here… I am desperatly awaiting your positive reply
what kind of reply do you want? i’ll tell you whatever you wanna hear.
kapusshta: for some reason he thought i was a girl and not a guy….hmmm mayb moish is rly a girl and thats y he keeps confusing the 2…something to think about…jkjk 😛
I wanted a yes but I wanted an honest yes, a fake one wont help me…
who are you calling a girl?! no shot! and anyway, girls get confused between males and females? that’s a new one.
i’m confused as to what the question was.
i think i’m becoming a little disillusioned.
moish01: no but if ur a girl and think ur a guy then u may think all girls are really guys and all guys are really girls
teen and maybe hes related to Joseph… and Moish how would you know if girls get confused between males and females… drumroll please, we are about to announce a big secret on the CR…
as for the question, it wasnt really a question, I just wanted you to tell me honestly that you would think (-and maybe do something) about what I said before…
teen, anyone ever tell you you’re logic is a bit messed up? if not, i’ll be the first 😉
yes….ur not the first
well that’s a relief. at least i’m not the only one.
moderator, if you don’t post my last one, they’re gonna think i’m a girl. and i can’t go through life with that. you wanna rephrase it if you don’t like it? it’s not like it’s a big secret.
moish01: dont worry we will stil love u even if ur a girl…
Whenever anyone asks why do you care, it sounds to me like that person feels that in general NO one cares. We’re Jews, we are supposed to care about each other. Sometimes, that becomes a burden to the person who doesn’t get that he or she is not alone in this world. Whatever it is, teen years are really hard, and a lot of kids become disillusioned when they see the hypocrisy all around them. It’s hard to trust, and it’s hard to not be able to trust, because I believe that deep down a teenager wants to be able to feel connected even when disillusioned. The good news is, we all eventually grow up, and when we do, we are amazed at how differently we view things from the way we did when we were teens.
you’re very funny. sure i know people who care. my parents care and i’m sure my extended family cares. but yeh there are plenty who don’t. you think my school gives a hoot? maybe they regret that my dad doesn’t pay tuition for me, but i’m sure it’s worth it for them to not have me around. and neighbors? they probably love it – a new topic of discussion for them when they’re bored.
i can’t understand why a stranger would want to care? close people, ok. and yeh you all keep saying that it’s because i’m part of klal yisroel, but then you don’t really care about me, it’s the klal you’re worried about.
so that’s why i’m asking
anyway, that’s not what i asked kapusta last night. i just wanted to know why she was asking such random questions.
moish01: i cant tell u why people care bec to me it doesnt make any snese either…but i do know that people care…but like i said i dont know why
me a virtual person?? no, ames – you got it wrong. i am the only one around here that’s a real person – the rest of you are virtual!
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moish01: no im pretty sure im the real perosn and that you are all virtual lol
Moish- I was trying to get you to admit to yourself that you care which I think I acheived and I know everyone else said this also but I care because you’re a jew but I mean that very very honestly I daven that you return completely and a (former?) poster teenager and for several other people I have never laid eyes on in my life.
oomis- 100% true
did you read this thread (talk about blackmail!) it’s kind of obvious that i care.
yes I did and once you verbalize (typatize) that theres no going back, and its much harder to break
i can’t understand why a stranger would want to care?
I care because you are a person. Not Jew, not male, not female, not contemporary of mine, just stam a person. Why would a stranger stop in the street to see if he can help someone who has fallen? Because it is the right thing to do. Morevover, we Jews have something extra built into our DNA, the chessed shel Avraham, the first Jew. It cannot be that his direct descendents who accepted the Torah did not inherit from him a part of him that tell us to do the right and compassionate thing. Proportionately, considering our population number, Jews are the most chessed-filled people in history. More tzedaka orgamizations both Jewish and secular have been started and are run by Jews. That is no accident. There is no question there are caring and good non-Jews in the world, but on balance, I think we Jews are pretty amazing in that department.
oomis- 100% true…again…
moish, you want to know why we care? I’ll tell you why we care. For the same reason that you care about 3 guys in Japan who you’ve never seen before. Because whatever you do you’re a jew, and every jew cares about every other jew. It’s the same reason that jews all over the world davened for the residents of Southern Israel during the war, the same reason we all say tehillim for people we’ve never seen. Because they are jews. It doesn’t matter where they’re from, it doesn’t matter how they dress, nothing matters. All jews are brothers. We would do anything for you, just as you’d do anything for the 3 guys in Japan.
mw13: i like your way of thinkin!!! shkoyach!!!
asdfghjkl, it’s not just my way of thinking, it’ areivimzehlazeh’s way of thinking, moish01’s way of thinking, the jewish way of thinking.
hey that actually made a lot of sense. thanks, mw13
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