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where are good dating spots in the city
personally, i dont think ppl shud date in manhattan at all! lots of pritzus all around..unfortunately, its accepted to go there..
olgas on smith its a quiet out of flatbush but not the city cafe and the foods great….only problem, they are not open late….but you can check out their website http://olgasonsmith.com/ for menu and directions. Its better than meeting all ur friend and their dates at the brooklyn marriot!!
Depends what you want to do? Theres starbucks all over the city, but thats a pretty cheap date. Theres Dave and Busters, ESPN Zone, Empire State Building, Rockefeller Center, Bryant Park, Central Park….the list goes on and on.
Before we were married my wife and I went on a date to the top of the Empire State Building. On the 86th floor observation deck I pulled out a ring and offered it to her :).
how crazy is it to go on a date to the giants game?
matjash,
Why would it be crazy if she is a football fan or might be interested? It is a public place and there will be plenty of time to talk.
I would think a sports game is an excellent place to date. Awkward silences can easily be filled with comments on how the game is going!
well perhaps because it is assur for a Jewish male to go to unecessary places where he will see non-tznius women
or perhaps because there is all sorts of nivel peh being spoken loudly.
matjash
Only because ticket prices are ridiculous. Otherwise, as the girl, no complaints 🙂
Plus, it will get the happy couple familiar with the place, seeing as how the next Syium Ha’Shas is going to be there!
BPT
Are they going to sell PSLs to the Siyum?
Mod-80,
There really is no place in the New York area where non-tzniut women are not seen.
It used to be that shuls had social events for singles. I know people who met and got married after having met at shul events! Why did that stop? What better place to create a partner for a Torah lifestyle than in a shul!
There really is no place in the New York area where non-tzniut women are not seen.
well sure.
but i used to go to games years ago before i was frum. i dont need to describe the many hundreds of exceedingly innapropriate things to be seen in any direction one would turn (ways of dressing that would have meant arrest and jail time 100 years ago), and the foul language from all sides. of course this was years ago. things have probably improved by now.
and to bring a yiddshe maidle to such a place!!??
Amsterdam Billiards in the East Village. It is a higher end type clientele.
“Are they going to sell PSLs to the Siyum?”
No, but they are going to faher everyone before issuing you a ticket. Word of caution, though; saying the word maschteh instead of Masecha (minus the “t”) gets you an automatic downgrade
“on the topic of dating is it protocol to order a beer”
Once when asked by a date what I wanted to drink, I replied “a beer”. I thought he was going to pass out…. 😀
Oh yes! I agree totally about Amsterdam Billiards. I’ve had many a successful date there. I personally enjoy Jerusalem Pizza on Main Ave. in Passaic. It’s small and quiet, and has an intimate touch. Prime Grill is okay too. So how ’bout them Yankees?!
Mod 80
Maskim. I was recently listening to a shiur from Rabbi Wallerstein where he was lamenting how there are no kosher outlets to take your kids to anymore these days. He said the stadiums are full of untzniusdig people who are half drunk and spewing every curse word in the books. You can’t go to the Garden because the city dancers as well as the general atmosphere. He said that now even by Ranger games they have women on the ice dancing and cleaning off the ice.
We live in a sick sick world.
in my opinion theres nothing more appropriate for a nice shidduch date than a quiet dark road where no one will pass by and shine their bright headlights in your face! then one can devote the proper attention to their date!
whats with all the radio talk show hosts all of a sudden?
also, shawn, couldn’t that be potential yichud probems?
WIY
“He said that now even by Ranger games they have women on the ice dancing and cleaning off the ice.”
Did you ever go to a Hockey game? The things fans say are WAY worse than any Ice Girl’s uniform… if you are sensitive to that sorta thing.
So nobody even mentions sitting in? I have 5 married children who sat in. That means the dining room or kitchen of the girl’s house. And my 6th, a girl, thinks that going out on a date is disgusting. So did we do a good job brainwashing them? You betcha. I’m proud of my nice chasidishe children.
Shawn
Sounds like a Yichud issue…
sounds more like a troll issue…
Its tough to mention sit-ins, because there’s no choice involved. You either go to the house (nice or dumpy) or you don’t. Or you go to an “off site” house, where the little brothers / sisters / neighbors are not around to offer their input.
I respect your choice to have your kids sit in, but IMHO if you’re old enought to get married, you’re old enough to go out by yourself. But then again, I have friends who’s mother-in-law and kallah set up the chosson’s dresser drawers the week before the wedding, so maybe they really can’t be trusted to take a train on their own. (forget driving, that’s a given to be a no-no)
Speaking of a stroll. Central park is always nice, if you are in the area.
Personally, if I would have been taken to a football game on a date, that would have been my last date with that guy. But that’s only me.
Sacrilege:
I know someone who asked for Black Label! I once went out with a guy who told me I can order any alcohol I want – too bad I can’t differentiate between whiskey, liquor, beer, bourbon, etc. Yeah, I know that’s bad!
Sac
For a guy pritzus is the #1 issue but of course the foul language is a large problem as well. For women the main issue would be the language although strictly speaking women are not supposed to look at another women who isn’t dressed properly unless she must (like its her boss or coworker…)
Took a girl to a Ranger/Flyers game. If I’m not mistaken the featured combatents were Craig Berube and George McPhee (yes it was quite some time ago). She couldn’t follow the puck.or understand why the highlight of the night was the fight. It was a tough choice, but we didn’t sit in or near the blue seats.
i went on a date and walked around downtown williamsburg. saw some Verrrrrry intresting people.
i went to carlos and gabbys on a date…knew i was gonna marry my husband on that one(was the first date). i got to the point that i was like people know im dating so if they see me they see me big deal. but that was me.
i hated the hotel lobby thing. it was so boring! luckily one them had a tv in the background so i was able to watch when they guy got boring.
you can always have a sit in at my place lol just kidding!
WiseWoman:
I know!! Lobby’s are the absolute worst place for a first date! I also glance at the TV when things get boring but it’s usually a sports game on and I don’t know what’s flying. I’d even rather just sit in the car and drive around aimlessly than go to a lounge. We gotta have a petition written up to ban them…
Lobby’s are the best place for a first date. If she is boring, she is not for you.
WIY
“although strictly speaking women are not supposed to look at another women who isn’t dressed properly”
Since when?
dunno
“I know!! Lobby’s are the absolute worst place for a first date! I also glance at the TV when things get boring”
Lobbys are the worst period. I was on a third date with a guy, third lounge (this was early in my dating career) and he had obviously come to the conclusion that we were over, so he completely shut down. Wouldnt say a word! The thing was he didnt want to leave either, so I had a one way conversation with myself for about three hours. Luckily I spotted the bar that had a TV with a baseball game on and suggested we walk over there, at least I was able to catch a coupla innings! 😉
I’m a guy who agrees that a hotel lobby is boring. Truth be told not always but most of the time, yes.
Popa
If you want to sit/walk and talk you can do it in a nice setting: Botanical Gradens, Brooklyn Promenade, South Street Sea Port….
You dont have to go to a lounge. They are stuffy, pretentious and uninspired there is no reason to go there. I dont think anyone enjoys it, or feels like its a setting where you can truly relax and get to know someone.
Sacrilege
“”although strictly speaking women are not supposed to look at another women who isn’t dressed properly”
Since when?”
Actually Im not 100% sure about this one so I take it back. I remember hearing something about it but dont have it clear. I know its assur for a woman to look at female nudity (like in a movie) but stam not tznius…that one I have to get back to you on.
For later dates I think lounges are fine when you really want to get to know the person. But I wish for earlier dates people would come up with something else.
HadalLXTP:
Definitely not always but if a guy would suggest lounge vs something else I would without a second thought pick the something else…no matter what it is 🙂
WIY
“Actually Im not 100% sure about this one”
Me thinks you made it up.
Sacrilege
Lol. I will have a definite answer for you tomorrow Bli Neder. If I’m wrong I will retract.
Haven’t dated in NY for a looong time, B”H. But what happened to all of the smart stuff – the museums, planetariums or even the UN (fascinating) – a friend once tried to take a girl to the intrepid. Bad, bad, bad, idea.
But, other then that – lots of diversion & conversation starters if needed, and usually there’s a cafe or sitting area for a wrap up. Why does it have to the dreaded lounge or a restaurant (not dreaded, just a bit intense if it’s too early)?
The Marriott is excellent though, you can catch a minyan for maariv and probably even learn nightseder w/your chavrusa. So even if the date is a bomb, it’s a win win proposition.
I take it LA Bubby has an Einkel in Lakewood…I’m picturing the conversation 🙂
If you do go to a loung, keep rotating them. You don’t want to be like the guy who ALWAYS went to Rockefeller Center and had the coat check guy exclaim “man you have to teach me your tricks bro, 3rd good looking girl this week”. 🙂
“on the topic of dating is it protocol to order a beer”
Once when asked by a date what I wanted to drink, I replied “a beer”. I thought he was going to pass out”
Conversly, I know a girl (actually a woman now, this happened years ago) who is the biggest “Princess” that I have ever known – and I am 65 years old and have known many.
She was on a date at a lounge – the waiter/ress took her drink order and then asked her date. He ordered a beer. She said to the server “cancel my order”, looked at the date and said “you may take me home NOW – I don’t date men who drink beer.”
BTW, I guess that this behaviour worked for her because she has been married for almost 40 years to an extremely wealthy man – and both of them are big workers and donors to our community – both the Jewish and general community.
minyan – He should have told her to take a taxi home.
Sacrilege
You were right there is no Halachic problem with a woman looking at another woman not dressed up to Tznius standards. (Although nudity remains assur) However a girl should not accustom herself to look at the fashion magazines…and such because it will lead her to want to look and dress that way.
“which hotels are the best for dating in the city?”
None.
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