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  • #604606
    ☕️coffee addict
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    my kid was born right before rosh hashana so when should we make the upsherin, before hes 3, erev rosh hashana (a sunday) or the sunday before yom kippur and why do you think that

    #1086055
    shlishi
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    On his third birthday. Why otherwise?

    #1086056
    WolfishMusings
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    If your minhag is to not cut hair before three, then don’t do it before he’s three. After his birthday? Do it whenever you want… there’s no halacha in this matter. If the day before Yom Kippur isn’t convenient, then do it on a weekday between between RH and Succos or do it after Succos.

    The Wolf

    #1086057
    Sam2
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    Whatever day is most convenient. It’s all barely a Minhag. There are no Halachic obligations of the date.

    #1086058
    smartcookie
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    Mazel tov! Upsherins are beautiful!

    It depends if you’re planning an event and inviting family, Erev Yom Tov might be a very hard day for that.

    How about doing it right b4 the shabbos before Rosh Hashana to avoid the Erev rush?

    #1086059
    ☕️coffee addict
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    shlishi,

    I know people do it on sunday, i dont think its coincidental

    thank you smartcookie,

    if im planning an event and inviting family (which i am) sunday is the most convenient day and that led to my question

    #1086060
    smartcookie
    Member

    Coffee, you’re saying Sunday is the most convenitent day which makes sense. However, sunday Erev Rosh Hashana would be difficult for a “party” in my home. You gotta be all ready for y”t then.

    I guess it’s up to your wife’s preference.

    #1086061
    Chortkov
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    My yekkishe cousins walked around with short hair from the age of two or something like that, but without a kappul and tzitzis until they were three.

    I don’t understand exactly why they didn’t give a kappul and tzitzis before three if they cut the hair before three, but the kids looked like goyim 🙂

    I personally only had a hair cut at three because i am litvish on the maternal side and my grandad is makpid but apparently there is no mekor for it at all.

    #1086062
    Nechomah
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    I recall my son’s upsherin which was on 8 Tishrei, so the day before Erev Yom Kippur. For me it was harder doing the haircutting (and all of the activities associated with that – going to rabbonim for snips plus a festive meal) than it was to give birth at that time of year. I plan on splitting up the celebrations associated with his Bar Mitzvah in 2 years.

    If Sunday is the day you want to do it, then I would suggest doing it the following week since doing it on erev RH, unless you are not making any meals in your house over those 2 days, would be almost impossible for your wife to enjoy.

    #1086063
    Understand
    Member

    When I asked my LOR, he told me to cut the hair the Sunday before my son turned three, because as soon as he is 3 he should have a haircut and yalmuka. I was told to push it up not off.

    #1086064
    ☕️coffee addict
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    mazel tov!

    my second son’s upsherin is this sunday (going to the rebbe on tuesday)

    #1086065
    Joseph
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    Which rebbe shlita?

    #1086066
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    why? do you want to meet him there?

    #1086067
    Joseph
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    I’m always ready to join a simcha.

    #1086068
    Matan1
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    What is the source and reason for an upsherin? I’ve always wondered this.

    #1086069
    ☕️coffee addict
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    a person is compared to a “tree of the field” and can’t pick it’s fruit for 3 years

    #1086070
    Matan1
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    So the hair is like the fruit of the tree?

    #1086071
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Leaves.

    #1086072
    WolfishMusings
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    a person is compared to a “tree of the field” and can’t pick it’s fruit for 3 years

    Except that, I believe, there is no issur to pick the fruit of a tree of orlah. You can’t eat it, of course, and it’s assur b’hana’a, but I believe there is no issur from picking the fruit off of the tree.

    The Wolf

    #1086073
    Matan1
    Participant

    And what is the source?

    #1086074
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Mentioned by ??? ???? and ???? ????? here:

    http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14166&st=&pgnum=7

    #1086075
    Sam2
    Participant

    The way I always heard it, which doesn’t make sense either, is that it’s Chinuch on the Mitzvah of Peiyos.

    #1086076
    KingShloime
    Member

    My minhag is we do cut hair but do not cut fingernails until the boy is 3. Because the fingers are like tree branches, so fingernails are more comparable to tree fruits. At the ushering party we serve the fingernails to the parents and grandparents to eat for the first time (it’s a big kibbud).

    #1086078
    cherrybim
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